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Originally Posted by nyrifleman
Ones a Browning, the other is an icon.

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Originally Posted by nyrifleman
Ones a Browning, the other is an icon.
That!


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The icon should have came with one piece bottom metal.
The later ones did... I have several with the 1-piece units... I had just one BACO, obtained just to get a good look at that pos MOA trigger... Sold it to a guy who was OK with it... Glad to see it go, and I sure as hell wouldn't have another...

Browning screwed the pooch with that trigger change... Typical of Browning - they just love to over-engineer things that are best left simple and workable.. And that's exactly why I do not own a Browning rifle...


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Originally Posted by nyrifleman
Ones a Browning, the other is an icon.

Love it^^^^

He knows his audience.

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Well, lets just see what redneck says about that..
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Originally Posted by nyrifleman
Ones a Browning, the other is an icon.

Snob whistle

Guilty as charged.


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Totally agree with th trigger though. Can't disagree there.

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I am curious …,how is the BAR over engineered?

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Originally Posted by Angus1895
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I am curious …,how is the BAR over engineered?

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The BAR is actually the only semi-auto centerfire worth a hill of beans.. Of all the semi-auto rifles built, I rarely had a BAR come in and that was usually due to only two things - replacing a buffer or a timing latch pin. Re: the BACO Winchester, the effed up on that trigger...

One other thing - compared an A-Bolt to a M70 once for a customer... He asked how the Browning could be made better.. I (half-jokingly) said "trade it for a M70".. He asked why. I removed the A-bolt from the stock and the two of us counted the number of parts needed to operate the safety.. We counted six..

Then I took a M70 out of the stock and we counted those.. Three. Browning just can't seem to figure out how to make an operation simple.. It's just a personal beef of mine - and it's why I only have ONE Browning in the place, a BPS in .410.... Bought it because I had a lot of leftover .410 ammo AND it was the only shotgun available at the time I was looking... It's OK.. But - speaking from experience - ya better know what you're doing when/if an owner removes that trigger group from the receiver. Removal is a piece of cake.. Re-installing it can make even an old salt recall a lot of 4-letter words. There's a trick to it I learned years ago - and even then it can be a pita to reassemble.. Typical Browning..


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Originally Posted by Angus1895
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I am curious …,how is the BAR over engineered?

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The BAR is actually the only semi-auto centerfire worth a hill of beans.. Of all the semi-auto rifles built, I rarely had a BAR come in and that was usually due to only two things - replacing a buffer or a timing latch pin. Re: the BACO Winchester, the effed up on that trigger...

One other thing - compared an A-Bolt to a M70 once for a customer... He asked how the Browning could be made better.. I (half-jokingly) said "trade it for a M70".. He asked why. I removed the A-bolt from the stock and the two of us counted the number of parts needed to operate the safety.. We counted six..

Then I took a M70 out of the stock and we counted those.. Three. Browning just can't seem to figure out how to make an operation simple.. It's just a personal beef of mine - and it's why I only have ONE Browning in the place, a BPS in .410.... Bought it because I had a lot of leftover .410 ammo AND it was the only shotgun available at the time I was looking... It's OK.. But - speaking from experience - ya better know what you're doing when/if an owner removes that trigger group from the receiver. Removal is a piece of cake.. Re-installing it can make even an old salt recall a lot of 4-letter words. There's a trick to it I learned years ago - and even then it can be a pita to reassemble.. Typical Browning..


That's how they put their mark on something I guess. Make it more complicated than it needs to be and then brag about it. As in the MOA trigger they put in the new model 70. They should have just left well enough alone, but they had to do something to it to change it up. That is why I refer to the new ones as "Brownings". I'm content to hunt the older real Winchester model 70's for the rest of my life. Other guys that like to think the new ones are better, can have them. There's enough to go around for all of us..


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Originally Posted by nyrifleman
Ones a Browning, the other is an icon.

Well played!


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Originally Posted by Angus1895
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I am curious …,how is the BAR over engineered?

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The BAR is actually the only semi-auto centerfire worth a hill of beans.. Of all the semi-auto rifles built, I rarely had a BAR come in and that was usually due to only two things - replacing a buffer or a timing latch pin. Re: the BACO Winchester, the effed up on that trigger...

One other thing - compared an A-Bolt to a M70 once for a customer... He asked how the Browning could be made better.. I (half-jokingly) said "trade it for a M70".. He asked why. I removed the A-bolt from the stock and the two of us counted the number of parts needed to operate the safety.. We counted six..

Then I took a M70 out of the stock and we counted those.. Three. Browning just can't seem to figure out how to make an operation simple.. It's just a personal beef of mine - and it's why I only have ONE Browning in the place, a BPS in .410.... Bought it because I had a lot of leftover .410 ammo AND it was the only shotgun available at the time I was looking... It's OK.. But - speaking from experience - ya better know what you're doing when/if an owner removes that trigger group from the receiver. Removal is a piece of cake.. Re-installing it can make even an old salt recall a lot of 4-letter words. There's a trick to it I learned years ago - and even then it can be a pita to reassemble.. Typical Browning..


That's how they put their mark on something I guess. Make it more complicated than it needs to be and then brag about it. As in the MOA trigger they put in the new model 70. They should have just left well enough alone, but they had to do something to it to change it up. That is why I refer to the new ones as "Brownings". I'm content to hunt the older real Winchester model 70's for the rest of my life. Other guys that like to think the new ones are better, can have them. There's enough to go around for all of us..
Agreed...


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