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P.S, Nasa used Metric for the Apollo moon landings, not Imperial... just sayin.. Funny but they used feet and MPH for the approach and landings on the moon. There is no way to land a lunar lander on the moon if you use meters. Just won't work and you will be stuck in space. ![[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/9130/uOXlqM.gif)
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I freaking HATE that pos metric system... Rant over.
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Some people love metric some hate it. I can work with either but for my little machine shop in East Texas metric is an unnecessary hazard. There’s no support around here. I can spend a fortune purchasing metric stuff on line or from suppliers or just use what I have. My collets for the mill are imperial. My indicators are imperial mostly. If you’ve ever seen the little Christmas tree thread dial on a metric lathe for threading you’ll faint.
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I suppose there are some things where metric measurement may be more convenient or somehow more useful than Imperial measurements. Fortunately, I don't have to do any of those things! So screw it! Inches rule!
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They tried to force the metric system on us in the early 1970's, it went nowhere. I remember reading about it in a Weekly Reader in about 1964 in the third grade. I laughed.
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If you’ve ever seen the little Christmas tree thread dial on a metric lathe for threading you’ll faint. I haven’t fainted yet and I can go back and forth as needed. Try to explain some reason it makes more sense to specify thread pitch by the number of threads per inch, rather than the actual pitch dimension of the distance from a point on one thread to the same point on another thread.
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You guys do know our currency system is metric, right?
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Yeah!
Because of all the countries that use the Metric System and have put men on the moon!
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Let's list them? You probably should check out what measurement system SpaceX uses BEFORE you make stupid comments. Just sayin... 😁😅😅🤣🤣🤣 Oh, I forgot! SpaceX has put men on the moon.🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃 Now as to NASA? They did use some 10ths to get to the Moon. Inches, feet, and miles too! They supposedly went all foreign BS about a dozen years ago. Because the other countries can't do fractions. I really don't see the big deal. Either system can measure whatever, the metrics system is easier to calculate, but cumbersome in other applications. Our system becomes a unit of tens once you start being precise. By using decimals. Ever use a machinists ruler. Which is what happens with metric also. I'll never use metric, probably. We use inches and pounds at work. Even for export to Europe and Asia. Sometimes we have to convert kilos, but we still work in pounds. I'll never think, "My crank is 25cm long". The mind just knows 10".
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P.S, Nasa used Metric for the Apollo moon landings, not Imperial... just sayin.. Funny but they used feet and MPH for the approach and landings on the moon. There is no way to land a lunar lander on the moon if you use meters. Just won't work and you will be stuck in space. Calculations and functions were metric, Display was in Imperial for obvious reasons.
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You know all the thread pitches are in the machinist handbook and the metric ones aren’t any simpler than imperial. As long as the thread is correct there’s no problem.
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You guys do know our currency system is metric, right? If we go metric do we lose nickles, quarters, 5, 10, 20 and 50 dollar bills? Do it all with one's, tens, and hundreds? You know, for the Simple, math?🙃😉
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I spent a third of my thirty year O&G career running metric abroad. Never an issue.
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What do Myanmar, Liberia, and the United States have in common? They are the only countries in the whole world that are not on the metric system. There is a reason practically all the world is metric. It's not because the metric system is less useful than SAE. Actually if you had a clue you could see that the Metric system does not have any advantage over SAE, none and there are areas where SAE kicks Metrics azz. Well, OK..... How much heat energy is required to raise one quart of water 10 degrees Fahrenheit? Vs.. How much heat energy is required to raise 1 liter of water 10 degrees C? Or.... An object that weighs on pound on Earth is moved to a place in space where there is practically no gravity. How much force must be applied to accelerate it 10 feet/sec/sec? Vs.... A 1 Kg object is moved to a place in space where there is practically no gravity. How much force must be applied to accelerate it 3 meters/sec/sec? In both cases, someone who understands metric can answer the second question in 1 second flat. Try the first questions, time yourself, and let us know if it took you less than that. Metric is vastly easier, and fully as precise as our system. But if you grew up on our system, the transition is painful. The worst situation is a helter skelter mix of the two, which is what we have in the US. If you are pondering theoreticals sure metric is easy but building anything is easier with SAE, every time. You seem to be missing the point. There are things not done on a calculator. Those are most emphatically not theoreticals. They are everyday practical problems for a lot of technical people, and the metric system makes them MUCH easier, calculator or none. If you want to work in furlongs per fortnight, be my guest. If you think you can beat my time on the questions posed, post your results. If you don't like those, try these two equivalent problems.... What is the slope of a roof that has 3' 4 3/16" rise for 8' 2 1/8" of run? vs. What is the slope of a roof that has 1 meter of rise for 2.4 meters of run? I've already done the second one in my head, while distracted by typing. Your answer for the first one? Quickly! No calculator, or even pencil and paper.
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Yeah!
Because of all the countries that use the Metric System and have put men on the moon!
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Let's list them? You probably should check out what measurement system SpaceX uses BEFORE you make stupid comments. Just sayin... 😁😅😅🤣🤣🤣 Oh, I forgot! SpaceX has put men on the moon.🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃 Now as to NASA? They did use some 10ths to get to the Moon. Inches, feet, and miles too! They supposedly went all foreign BS about a dozen years ago. Because the other countries can't do fractions. I really don't see the big deal. Either system can measure whatever, the metrics system is easier to calculate, but cumbersome in other applications. Our system becomes a unit of tens once you start being precise. By using decimals. Ever use a machinists ruler. Which is what happens with metric also. I'll never use metric, probably. We use inches and pounds at work. Even for export to Europe and Asia. Sometimes we have to convert kilos, but we still work in pounds. I'll never think, "My crank is 25cm long". The mind just knows 10". 🤣 10" huh... That's why women make poor carpenters. They think the length of their index finger is 10" long. Twas a Toolmaker for forty years. With GM being a global company we had equipment that was manufactured in Germany, Spain and Japan. Metrics was a big nothing burger, I could bounce from imperial to metric and back again at will. While I had metric taps and reamers I used imperial tooling on a cnc mill and set cutter comp when doing precision milling on metric dimensioned parts.
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metric systems actually fairly easy .
but I can do inches or metric no big deal but this will blow your mind then a lot of our blueprints are actually in 10th of an foot
so it looks like a lot of people here with short circuit trying to do that.. Somewhere in "the stash of stuff" is my father's stopwatch whose dial shows hundredths of a minute.
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Think about it.
“Imperial” sounds so much more American than “metric.”
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Fahq the Frogs and their made-up system.
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The US uses the metric system more than a lot of folks realize. Sparkplug threads have been metric since before 1900. True but the wrench that is needed to turn them is 5/8th's or 13/16's. Metric sucks, an incomplete system that is poorly balanced. Yeah, I hate metric stuff. We convert prints in the shop to decimals all the time. What I always thought was odd but, in a good way is, the ratchets and extensions are 1/4", 3/8". and 1/2".
Why do I have to press 1, for English?
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anyone reloading uses 10th's ... .020 off the lands ...
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I get to work in both English and metric systems. There’s no comparison. Metric is vastly superior in every way. Example: how many mm in a kilometer? You should be able to do that without even thinking about it. Now, how many inches are in a mile?
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