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Our wildlife resources guy is Hmong.
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The Hmong from the MPLS area come up here to catch fish. They don't care what kind of fish, it seems.
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I used to run with the hare. Now I'm envious of the tortoise and I do my own stunts but rarely intentionally
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We darn near knocked off our Hmong population from their fishing in the polluted paper mill effluence. Rough fish, any fish went in the pot along with anything else they would eat. The DNR had to post signs written in Hmong to stop them from fishing in the pollution pockets. I shot trap with a guy who saw them in Vietnam and he said they were the most bloodthirsty little sobs over there. They'd give them a 12 gauge, buckshot and a bag of rice and let them go after the VC. You really don't want them in your woods "hunting".
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I have no experience with Hmong (and dont want any) but me and a buddy were wade fishing one of our local rivers, we were fishing catch and release for Smallmouth, Redeye and whatever else would chase a grub when a group of Latino's pulled in and commenced to catch and keep every fish no matter the size or species, we estimated they kept 30+ fish out of the small river. We went back and fished the same area the next year and did not catch a single fish, the river was dead as a doornail 👎🏾......Hb
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The Hmong from the MPLS area come up to Devils Lake, ND and fish like those squirrel poachers! Car loads of ppl taking way more fish than the limits! The game wardens watch out for them accordingly! Years ago while competing on the Walleye Trail, I had the pleasure of learning about the Hmong at Devils Lake. Motel owners disliked that entire families would rent rooms when the White Bass were running, catch tons of fish, then clean them and hang them to dry in the rooms..... Also, if I remember correctly, several years past, there was a father and daughter murdered by a Hmong they found trespassing their land hunting out of their blind. The suspect was apprehended and stood trial. As I understand their home culture, they don't recognize private ownership of land and like to go wherever they wish.....
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Well, they are back at it. Sixteen Hmong poachers from Wisconsin came back to Missouri and killed nearly 500 squirrels. This was in one of my public ground hunting areas. They got caught by Conservation Agents and issued a double handful of tickets. As if that's going to mean anything to them. Are the tickets per animal? If they left them cross back to WI, they could have used the Lacey Act and slammed them. Would have. If they looked European.
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I have no idea how exactly they were ticketed. Hopefully they aren't back this year.
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Living in southeast Missouri (bootheel) I've seen plenty of fudging on limits of all kinds of animals/fish/ birds, though not to the extant others have written here. Most generally, the excuse is "I eat all that I kill, unlike out of staters." I have seen more than one out of state dove hunters spend big money on gear, ground, & vehicles & dogs. Shoot their limit in 30 minutes, take a bunch of hero photos, then pack up, drive down the road, dump their birds in a ditch and drive off. Sometimes they come back, sometimes not. Rabbit hunters with thousands in their dogs go to an abandoned homestead and massacre rabbits, tossing any they can't give away. Duck and snow goose hunters as well. It is what it is.
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Chinese out of NYC (probably illegal) have been fishing the Jersey shore for sea bass at night and then having their wives take a limit back to the car, they make several trips. The CO's got wise to this and have been writing a lot of summons. A couple of people have been caught taking 20K freshwater clams! It's illegal to harvest them.
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I ran into about seven or eight "Asians" a few years ago. I was hunting one of my favorite wilderness areas. I was about a mile and a half in and there they were.
Not wearing orange and carrying AK 47s. I turned around and walked back to my truck.
I could only imagine the hell that would have broke loose if they jumped a deer and I didn't want to be around. I was really glad when I got
over the crest of the mountain.
That's the only time I've ever seen them there.
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I haven't seen that many squirrels to take since the 70s or early 80s. That feat could not be done anywhere in PA today, not that I have seen.
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Hmong? I don't know, definitely Asian though. A whole damn family (men,women and kids) in 3 or 4 different vehicles. All had Minnesota plates. I found it quite odd at the time. It is rare to see out of state bow hunters there, let alone squirrel hunters.
X-VERMINATOR Sounds like Hmongs.
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I read about that technique in a (Boys Life Magazine ) and tried it once. It worked very well for the first time trying it. The only hiccup was after peeling off the dried mud I had a little sand on the bird but it worked.
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There were some foreigners who were caught with 5-gal buckets full of fish below a reservoir dam. They were way over creel and size limits. No report was ever produced as to their punishment. Rest assured had they been locals, they would have been fined hundreds/thousands and fishing rights removed, boat seized and they would have been caned in public. It definitely would have made front page news. I think the next time I am approached by game warden, I will respond “Me speaka no English.” 😂
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Bag limits on tree rats are a joke. But, rules are rules...and must be enforced. X2
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I have plenty of places in southern Indiana where I bet I could kill a 100 in a day. No one hunts them and they just go NUTS in the woods. lol
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There's just not the squirrels in South East Michigan that there was in the 70s and 80's my brothers and I opening week back then would get are 5 squirrel limit in minutes we would bring a couple friends that couldn't shoot or had iron sight and shoot there limit for them....the woods haven't changed all the oaks are over 200 years old....
The only and biggest change is a lot more hawk's, owls and there were no coyotes at all back then....
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Our squirrel population is way way down.
I used to limit regularly. Now I'm lucky to see 3 in a morning hunt.
I don't know why
Small Game, Deer, Turkey, Bear, Elk....It's what's for dinner.
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I have not killed a squirrel in many years. With that said I have wanted to kill many, every time they sound their annoying ALERT, to every animal when I am bear, elk, moose, or deer hunting.
If I were to translate their Alert they are screaming: Hey Azzhole I see you, watch out everyone, Elmer Fudd is in the woods and he wants to kill you, run for it!!!!! Rotten Bastirds!
They are fortunate around me because I do not want to blow what is left of my cover after they scream their GUTS OUT lol
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