What would be the best bullet for the 7-08 for big game hunting? I’m thinking 140ish grain is the sweet spot weight wise, will it push a mono fast enough for reliable expansion? Accubond is the easy answer but haven’t seen any in a while. What’s the general consensus?
Shooters Pro Shop had some 140 Accubond blems recently, so might keep an eye out. A buddy and I have been using the 150gr ELD-X with good luck past 3yrs.
I really like the 130 gr absolute hammer for a wildcat similar the 7mm-08, the 7mm wssm. The only thing is you will probably have to work up your own data with a little faster powder like rl15.
For deer sized game or even elk the 150 eldx seems to kill but I've never killed anything that big. Deer , everything mentioned above. My choice is 120 bt, 140 bt or don't forget the 139 hyd interlock. I shoot whatever you can find, especially if on sale.
I shoot a few different 7mm-08s with barrels lengths ranging from 18 1/2" - 24". All of the rifles I own now shoot really well, all shoot sub MOA from modern rifles like Howa and Remington to the Kimber. The 7mms simply inherently accurate like their parent cartridge. Only a 1984 Model Seven in 7mm-08 didn't immediately produce MOA groups so it went to another shooter who was delighted with 1 1/4" groups for blacktail deer in BC.
Personally I prefer 120-140 grain monolithic bullets on game:
My Kimber Classic Select 84M is the most accurate rifle out of my small sample batch:
For the sake of interest many powders like H4350, Varget, W760, IMR4895 and Vhn140 have worked well for me in the 7mm-08s.
"Rhetoric is no substitute for reality." -Thomas Sowell
I have used the 139 gr Hornady Intrlock for about 40 years with complete satisfaction. I only hunt whitetails. Would go with a premium, likely a 140 Partition, if I went after larger game.
What would be the best bullet for the 7-08 for big game hunting? I’m thinking 140ish grain is the sweet spot weight wise, will it push a mono fast enough for reliable expansion? Accubond is the easy answer but haven’t seen any in a while. What’s the general consensus?
If the big game stops at deer/antelope…..just about any quality cup & core will work. For larger stuff, especially if a close range shot is possible……a mono, “hands down”!
I am extremely biased toward Barnes Bullets……in your 7-08, I be seriously considering the 139 LRX. Using 2800 fps as an estimated mv…..you should get reliable expansion to just beyond 550 yards. As a plus, this type of bullet is great for up close shots……giving near 100% weight retention and deep penetration when needed!
Keep it simple, one bullet/one load for all of your big game. From muzzle to 550+ yards…..what’s not to like? 😉 memtb
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I only hunt whitetails and the occasional pig. My 7-08 likes the 139 gr SST or 140 gr Sierra GameKing bullet with either Varget or Big Game powder. Very few ever take a step after the shot.
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So many good/great choices for the fine cartridge. My favorite are 140 TTSX and 150 Nosler partitions. Load them a little heavier because elk is always on the menu..
Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.
My most used bullets in my 7-08 were the Nosler Partiton 140 gr. and the 150 grain Ballistic Tip. Both great bullets but since they ran out I have been fine with the 145 gr. Speer BTSP.
Nearly any cup/core or bonded bullet in the 139-145gr range is great at 7mm-08 speeds. The 120ttsx is also a straight killer. I use both in different rifles. All mine wear 16.5-20” barrels.
The heaviest bullet I shoot in my 7mm-08’s is the Hornady 139 gr. Interlock. I mostly shoot the 120 gr. Ballistic Tip or the 120 gr. Barnes TTSX. All three shoot really well and kill dependably.
If we live long enough, we all have regrets. But the ones that nag at us the most are the ones in which we know we had a choice.
Which tells me there is no overwhelming clear choice.
Whatever your rifle shoots well that you can actually find on the shelf.
Deer die pretty easy with proper placement.
P
Amen.^^^
What I realize is the 7mm08 is so much like its parent case (308w) and we know that cartridge has so many good bullet choices. One thing about it, it's really hard to pick a bad bullet for either cartridge. Hell, I just bought a few hundred 150gr Winchester powerpoint bullets and I know those will work near and far in the 7mm08. Use what shoots good enough for you and you'll be just fine. Fill some arks.
Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.
Expansive but great bullets, the Hammer series. They’re mono, super accurate with great terminal performance. Google Hammer Bullets. And they seem to always have them in stock.
Not sure how you can achieve excessive velocity without higher pressures, but whatever.
I mostly agree, but think of the difference between a .264 140 Berger and a 140 Partition. The Berger has very little bearing surface compared to the PT so you get some free speed. Not sure if it could equate to 150-200 FPS safely but I’d imagine it’s only a matter of time till we see some pressure data backing up Hammers info.
Not sure how you can achieve excessive velocity without higher pressures, but whatever.
Driving band patented design with very low resistance is the answer. One series, the Absolute Hammer, is designed such that the ogive does not engrave rifling, only the driving bands. Thus, much lower bore resistance with the possibility of higher velocity without higher pressure.
In fact, faster powder is generally needed to get enough in the case for enhanced velocity. This opens a new reloading challenge. Besides being a good bit faster than conventional bullets, these bullets are very accurate with great terminal performance.
Not sure how you can achieve excessive velocity without higher pressures, but whatever.
The absolute hammers have a super short engraving surface so there is less pressure build up. The added velocity is especially pronounced in non-magnum cartridges. The trick is to go to a relatively faster powder because you tend to run out of case with the slow ones. I get 3050 fps and 1/2" groups in my Savage 116 30-06 with the 162 AH and 54.5 gr of Varget. Not a single sign of excessive pressure.
Not sure how you can achieve excessive velocity without higher pressures, but whatever.
Driving band patented design with very low resistance is the answer. One series, the Absolute Hammer, is designed such that the ogive does not engrave rifling, only the driving bands. Thus, much lower bore resistance with the possibility of higher velocity without higher pressure.
In fact, faster powder is generally needed to get enough in the case for enhanced velocity. This opens a new reloading challenge. Besides being a good bit faster than conventional bullets, these bullets are very accurate with great terminal performance.
Interesting technology.
DF
I knew smart fella would explain what I was trying to get across
Not sure how you can achieve excessive velocity without higher pressures, but whatever.
Driving band patented design with very low resistance is the answer. One series, the Absolute Hammer, is designed such that the ogive does not engrave rifling, only the driving bands. Thus, much lower bore resistance with the possibility of higher velocity without higher pressure.
In fact, faster powder is generally needed to get enough in the case for enhanced velocity. This opens a new reloading challenge. Besides being a good bit faster than conventional bullets, these bullets are very accurate with great terminal performance.
Interesting technology.
DF
I knew smart fella would explain what I was trying to get across
Not sure how you can achieve excessive velocity without higher pressures, but whatever.
Driving band patented design with very low resistance is the answer. One series, the Absolute Hammer, is designed such that the ogive does not engrave rifling, only the driving bands. Thus, much lower bore resistance with the possibility of higher velocity without higher pressure.
In fact, faster powder is generally needed to get enough in the case for enhanced velocity. This opens a new reloading challenge. Besides being a good bit faster than conventional bullets, these bullets are very accurate with great terminal performance.
Interesting technology.
DF
I knew smart fella would explain what I was trying to get across
“Smart fella”…. Where?
Ha!
DF
I think he meant to say fart smeller..
Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.
Not sure how you can achieve excessive velocity without higher pressures, but whatever.
Driving band patented design with very low resistance is the answer. One series, the Absolute Hammer, is designed such that the ogive does not engrave rifling, only the driving bands. Thus, much lower bore resistance with the possibility of higher velocity without higher pressure.
In fact, faster powder is generally needed to get enough in the case for enhanced velocity. This opens a new reloading challenge. Besides being a good bit faster than conventional bullets, these bullets are very accurate with great terminal performance.
Interesting technology.
DF
I knew smart fella would explain what I was trying to get across
Ill be the oddball here but my favorite is the 154 SP Hornady. Almost impossible to make it fly poorly. Works really well with minimal meat damage in the 2720-2740 range with 17 in my M7.
120gr BT for everything including elk here in Az... 3080 fps... H4895.
Kent
Same for me except I use IMR 4895. I like the 120 BT so well I bought 700 of them when Shooters Pro shop had a deal on a lot that had blue tips instead of the standard red tips. They shoot the same and kill the same as the red tips do. Wish I had bought more as my stash is getting close to running out since I load for my dads rifle as well.
I load the 7/08 and 7mm Mauser... most common two bullets I ever load are the Hornady 139 SP, and the 140 gr Ballistic Tip. Never experienced any failures in the field to do what they were designed to do...drop Deer on the spot when you put the bullet were its suppose to go...
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I'll throw in the Sierra 140 Prohunter. My son killed many deer with this in his 7mm08. He never caught one to see what weight retention it had. The Sierra 140 HPBT is a good one too.
One thing great about 7mm’s, there are lots of good available bullets. I like the TTSX’s, Partitions, Interlocks, Core Lokt’s, Hot Cores, and Game Kings. I’m thinking there’s lots of others that are good too.
I’ve shot more Interlocks than any other bullets in the 7mm caliber, though I started with CL’s. If it were not for a cheap supply of partitions, I probably wouldn’t shoot them so much, but all the bullets that are trying to compete with partitions are “As good as partitions 😬.” They have been the been what all bullets want to be when they grow up.
I prefer classic. Semper Fi I used to run with the hare. Now I'm envious of the tortoise and I do my own stunts but rarely intentionally
I've only shot deer with 139gr Hornady ILs. Worked great, never a problem. But in my 7x57 lately I've been using 160gr Speers. Haven't shot any game with those yet. Was more just intrigued after reading about all the game Eleanor OC harvested with that bullet. Hopefully next fall I'll have more experience.
I didn’t read all the suggestions, but I run a 140 partition at 2922 fps or a 120 ttsx at a little over 3000 if I remember correctly. Both are great for whitetail, muleys, elk. And wolves
What would be the best bullet for the 7-08 for big game hunting? I’m thinking 140ish grain is the sweet spot weight wise, will it push a mono fast enough for reliable expansion? Accubond is the easy answer but haven’t seen any in a while. What’s the general consensus?
In my 275 Rigby (aka 7x57) I use 120gr NBTs for deer and 160gr NPs for moose.
I am with Pharmseller and the 150 grain Eld-x. My CVA Cascade WILL NOT shoot 140's or lighter of any kind no matter what I tried. 150's and also Speer GS 145 shoot great only with IMR 4064 and hammer anything they hit. Let your gun tell you what it likes.
What would be the best bullet for the 7-08 for big game hunting? I’m thinking 140ish grain is the sweet spot weight wise, will it push a mono fast enough for reliable expansion? Accubond is the easy answer but haven’t seen any in a while. What’s the general consensus?
I would recommend against selecting one bullet; eventually it will be out of stock and you will spend extra time and money trying to find it.
Many good bullet and powder combos for the 7mm08. Standard cup and core work so well on game at 7mm08 speeds, I would recommend starting with them in leu of more expensive options. I have yet to catch any bullet from my 7mm08 in a deer or hog; always exited (broadside or quartering shots).
A few options that work well for me, all producing 1/4" 3 shot groups, speeds are from a 22":
120 Nosler BT & Varget, ~44.5 grains, 2.790"oal, 2935fps (you can add about 0.5-1.0 grain more if you want to hit 3k, group is slightly larger but still sub moa) 139 Hornady interlock SP or BTSP / 140 Sierra PH or GK, ~48.5-49.0 H4350, 2,875fps, use a drop funnel as this will be compressed at 2.790" oal
If you are concerned about deep penetration, slap a 140 partition on top of H4350 for 2,875fps.
Big Game is the swiss army knife of powders for 7mm08; works well from the 100 Sierra HP up to 150s. Accuracy is sub MOA, just not as accurate as Varget and H4350 in my rifle.
If you really want to shoot a mono, either the 120 or 140 TTSX on top of Varget or Big Game (you will have case capacity challenges with H4350 and a 140TTSX if you are limited to 2.800" oal, not to say it can't be done, but it is a hassle).
I don't have anything against Accubonds, but my on game experience w/ them has been so similar to standard cup and cores, the marginal benefit does not out weight the marginal cost.
I really do not believe there is a best bullet. The 120 BT gets a lot of use but I have always found the 139gr IL to be cheap, available, and accurate with perfect performance on deer sized game. I have also used 139gr IB without any disappointment except that they can be finicky to get accurate.
The two I have settled on is the 139 IL for deer and 139gr LRX for elk.
Here is another load I worked up in MY Savage 7mm-08.
IMHO it will do for mice to moose.
IMHO it may not and most likely not work in thier rifle. It boggles my mind why people share thier loads to try in someone else's rifle. I know you didn't say try this in your rifle, but it means that.
Here is another load I worked up in MY Savage 7mm-08.
IMHO it will do for mice to moose.
IMHO it may not and most likely not work in thier rifle. It boggles my mind why people share thier loads to try in someone else's rifle. I know you didn't say try this in your rifle, but it means that.
I think the point is that the combo shoots well. Obviously the load would need to be worked up and tuned for a different rifle. Big Game just works well in 7-08.
My 280 700 shoots groups identical to that with the 145 LRX and Ramshot Hunter. I’ve found Hunter to work just as well or better in the 280 as Big Game does in the 7-08.
I think the point is that the combo shoots well.......In HIS rifle.
Now you're trying to make it sound like it will for some one else LOL Sending some one to the range with their worked up loads is better and can more likely find a great load than to be disappointed with some one else's load, that most likely won't shoot well AND wasting components. Been there, done that !
Here is another load I worked up in MY Savage 7mm-08.
IMHO it will do for mice to moose.
IMHO it may not and most likely not work in thier rifle. It boggles my mind why people share thier loads to try in someone else's rifle. I know you didn't say try this in your rifle, but it means that.
If rifles chambered for a particular cartridge are all so radically different that what works in one most likely won't work in another, then how did the various "standards" that typically work quite well in most any rifle come to the fore over the years?
Examples:
308 Winchester: Federal Gold Medal Match, or 41.5 gr IMR4895 (or 42 gr. IMR4064 or 39 gr. IMR3031) and a 168 SMK in military brass
270 Winchester: 55 gr. IMR4350 and a 130 gr. bullet
As I improved the rifle I shoot, and the handloading techniques, maybe they would be a standard. The variables that effect a load have to be taken into consideration, not just a "Load".
Bad advice to give some one a Standard load, before knowing them or thier equipment.
As I improved the rifle I shoot, and the handloading techniques, maybe they would be a standard. The variables that effect a load have to be taken into consideration, not just a "Load".
Bad advice to give some one a Standard load, before knowing thier equipment.
What the heck does someone's equipment have to do with the fact that a huge number of people have found a given load to work well?
If rifles chambered for a particular cartridge are all so radically different that what works in one most likely won't work in another, then how did the various "standards" that typically work quite well in most any rifle come to the fore over the years?
Examples:
308 Winchester: Federal Gold Medal Match, or 41.5 gr IMR4895 (or 42 gr. IMR4064 or 39 gr. IMR3031) and a 168 SMK in military brass
270 Winchester: 55 gr. IMR4350 and a 130 gr. bullet
30-06: 52 gr. IMR4064 and a 150 gr. bullet
I could go on.
Add Prime Ammo to that list of examples. It shines in the same light as FGMM as it just WORKS in so many different rifles. Have seen many PRS shooters flat quit reloading their own match ammo and switch completely to Prime just to save the time/effort at the load bench.
Although I won't share loads on the internet I won't gripe at those who do. It's common knowledge to work up to anyone else's load as a basic safety factor of handloading.
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Wow ! The Feral American, way to go ! Momma would be proud !
However, you can't compare the average newbie loader with thier factory rifles or better quality rifles, that aren't worked out of the factory with PRS.
Ooops here comes the boy in a man’s body! Silly boy, mommie hasn’t taught how to play well with others.
One load compared to multiple loads, that meatballs give out on a regular basis. Guess they have nothing better else to do to feel important. Or the silly BS you tell people on a regular basis.
Got dang, these threads are turning into a schidt show.
What has been said earlier about the 7mm-08, is just about any damn bullet made, will work great in the 7mm-08. It's harder to find one that will not work, than to find one that is the "best". Keeping in mind, that term is highly subjective when it comes to the 7mm08 and bullet choice. The one that shoots the best in your rifle, is likely the one that is going to be the best for you. Deer are extremely easy to kill, but if you are talking elk, step up to the 150 Nosler partition, or the 140 TTSX. My rifle loves both. Since this thread was brought back to light, I thumbed through the pages and all had great suggestions, with their bullet choices. Don't want to spend a lot, try an interlock of the weight you desire. Chances are they will shoot well. If not, step up to a ballistic tip or partition or Barnes TTSX. I always load heavy because I love hunting elk. Ymmv, if you only hunt deer.
Last year, I was doing some testing with the 150gr Nosler partition. Just put a new stock on one of my Tikka's. Shot in the prone, with no rear rest and off a bipod.
Ran with this load, as it shot sub moa consistently:
Had to confirm the hashmarks on the Burris: Surprisingly, the old Nosler did well in the wind too. As I held off slightly for the wind, but it hit where I was aiming. I would not kick that out of bed, nor be afraid to use it on an elk out to 400 yards.
Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.
Just what we need, some know it all who has to tell us we need to do it his way or we're wrong and will never reach nirvana. Personally, I like to read about what others here have accomplished. Have I ever gone that route to see if I can achieve similar results? Sometime yes and other times pass. I also think most of us here are adult enough and experienced enough to not take unpublished load data without starting low and working up. Apparently Mr. Anothergun has a much lower opinion of the people on this site. Pity! PJ
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Ones who bash the daylights out of ya are the real losers ! No life outside this forum it seems !
Kindergarten show and tell. Guy ask the best bullet and people post their rifles, loads, targets... O look here's my favorite rifle, mommie said I can't bring it to class, but Here's some pictures that will take up the whole page..... the ignore feature to hide all the BS, yeeesss !! At least do a thumb nail, sheeeshhhh.
Ones who bash the daylights out of ya are the real losers ! No life outside this forum it seems !
Kindergarten show and tell. Guy ask the best bullet and people post their rifles, loads, targets... O look here's my favorite rifle mommie said I can't bring it to class, but Here's some pictures that will take up the whole page..... thank goodness for the ignore feature to hide all the BS !! Ay least do a thumb nail, sheeeshhhh.
Just shut your [bleep] dickhole already. You are an annoying twerp. I think I hear your mommy calling you for dinner. PB&J with the crust cut off.
Here is another load I worked up in MY Savage 7mm-08.
IMHO it will do for mice to moose.
IMHO it may not and most likely not work in thier rifle. It boggles my mind why people share thier loads to try in someone else's rifle. I know you didn't say try this in your rifle, but it means that.
If rifles chambered for a particular cartridge are all so radically different that what works in one most likely won't work in another, then how did the various "standards" that typically work quite well in most any rifle come to the fore over the years?
Examples:
308 Winchester: Federal Gold Medal Match, or 41.5 gr IMR4895 (or 42 gr. IMR4064 or 39 gr. IMR3031) and a 168 SMK in military brass
270 Winchester: 55 gr. IMR4350 and a 130 gr. bullet
30-06: 52 gr. IMR4064 and a 150 gr. bullet
I could go on.
Thank you sir. That was my point. The combo works well and it is a good starting point.
I think the point is that the combo shoots well.......In HIS rifle.
Now you're trying to make it sound like it will for some one else LOL Sending some one to the range with their worked up loads is better and can more likely find a great load than to be disappointed with some one else's load, that most likely won't shoot well AND wasting components. Been there, done that !
There are some loads that are what I call the "standard loads". They have worked in many may guns regardless of make/model. Some examples are:
7mm rem and 160 gr 66 gr RL 22 30-06 around 56 gr of H or IMR 4350 180 gr 270 Win 130 gr with 60 gr H4831 or rl 22 300 Win Mag 180 gr and 76 gr of H4831 or RL 22 30-06 150 gr around 53 gr IMR 4064
And I have a plethora of more "standard loads". Moreover, these are the loads I work up to with new rifles, and if they do not shoot well then I know I have a super finicky or sick rifle.
In fact if memory serves well John Barness (Mule Deer) had written an article about this many moons ago.
I think the point is that the combo shoots well.......In HIS rifle.
Now you're trying to make it sound like it will for some one else LOL Sending some one to the range with their worked up loads is better and can more likely find a great load than to be disappointed with some one else's load, that most likely won't shoot well AND wasting components. Been there, done that !
There are some loads that are what I call the "standard loads". They have worked in many may guns regardless of make/model. Some examples are:
7mm rem and 160 gr 66 gr RL 22 30-06 around 56 gr of H or IMR 4350 180 gr 270 Win 130 gr with 60 gr H4831 or rl 22 300 Win Mag 180 gr and 76 gr of H4831 or RL 22 30-06 150 gr around 53 gr IMR 4064
And I have a plethora of more "standard loads". Moreover, these are the loads I work up to with new rifles, and if they do not shoot well then I know I have a super finicky or sick rifle.
In fact if memory serves well John Barness (Mule Deer) had written an article about this many moons ago.
Wasn't there also an old book by a guy named Ken Waters?? Pet Loads??
I could be mistaken.
I don't use HIS loads.... I like reading on his take on powders and a logical approach on how to use them. I could care less about his loads for HIS RIFLE he used to test HIS loads.
I tried a few loads years ago, then did not shoot well and after I glassed my M70 they didn't shoot well in that rifle either. It's a crap shoot.
I'll take back the ONE "generic" load I posted here. LOL
I think the point is that the combo shoots well.......In HIS rifle.
Now you're trying to make it sound like it will for some one else LOL Sending some one to the range with their worked up loads is better and can more likely find a great load than to be disappointed with some one else's load, that most likely won't shoot well AND wasting components. Been there, done that !
There are some loads that are what I call the "standard loads". They have worked in many may guns regardless of make/model. Some examples are:
7mm rem and 160 gr 66 gr RL 22 30-06 around 56 gr of H or IMR 4350 180 gr 270 Win 130 gr with 60 gr H4831 or rl 22 300 Win Mag 180 gr and 76 gr of H4831 or RL 22 30-06 150 gr around 53 gr IMR 4064
And I have a plethora of more "standard loads". Moreover, these are the loads I work up to with new rifles, and if they do not shoot well then I know I have a super finicky or sick rifle.
In fact if memory serves well John Barness (Mule Deer) had written an article about this many moons ago.
Primarily a Weatherby guy? I like them a lot yes. That said I have owned and have worked with pretty much every cartridge from 17 cal to 50 cal. I also teach basic and advance handloading classes. My records show that I have worked up loads for over 420 personal rifles and I do not know how many for others. If you ever get up to that level you will see how certain loads work in many different rifles. What do you shoot?
Primarily a Weatherby guy? I like them a lot yes. That said I have owned and have worked with pretty much every cartridge from 17 cal to 50 cal. I also teach basic and advance handloading classes. My records show that I have worked up loads for over 420 personal rifles and I do not know how many for others. If you ever get up to that level you will see how certain loads work in many different rifles. What do you shoot?
Originally Posted by anothergun
besides I don't shoot much
I prefer peace. But if trouble must come, let it come in my time, so that my children may live in peace. ~~ Thomas Paine
Primarily a Weatherby guy? I like them a lot yes. That said I have owned and have worked with pretty much every cartridge from 17 cal to 50 cal. I also teach basic and advance handloading classes. My records show that I have worked up loads for over 420 personal rifles and I do not know how many for others. If you ever get up to that level you will see how certain loads work in many different rifles. What do you shoot?
Primarily a Weatherby guy? I like them a lot yes. That said I have owned and have worked with pretty much every cartridge from 17 cal to 50 cal. I also teach basic and advance handloading classes. My records show that I have worked up loads for over 420 personal rifles and I do not know how many for others. If you ever get up to that level you will see how certain loads work in many different rifles. What do you shoot?
Out of the standard loads you posted, are they shot out of your Weatherbys ?
Primarily a Weatherby guy? I like them a lot yes. That said I have owned and have worked with pretty much every cartridge from 17 cal to 50 cal. I also teach basic and advance handloading classes. My records show that I have worked up loads for over 420 personal rifles and I do not know how many for others. If you ever get up to that level you will see how certain loads work in many different rifles. What do you shoot?
Primarily a Weatherby guy? I like them a lot yes. That said I have owned and have worked with pretty much every cartridge from 17 cal to 50 cal. I also teach basic and advance handloading classes. My records show that I have worked up loads for over 420 personal rifles and I do not know how many for others. If you ever get up to that level you will see how certain loads work in many different rifles. What do you shoot?
Out of the standard loads you posted, are they shot out of your Weatherbys ?
Did you see me list loads for Weatherbies? That said I do have some loads that work well in a few weatherbies.
what I'm trying to prove is, a guy like you, even though you tote around this Plethora of knowledge, doesn't mean squat to me or anyone else who spouts it out. And even though you teach a "advanced" hand loading class, it appears you are missing more pertinent loading details out from your "standard" loads ? LOL
Nothing personal man... LOL It's just comical that guys like you come on these sites and appear and convince some people that they should listen to you with your magical loads or this wonderful insight. Do you understand now what I'm trying to prove ? Give us a free "advanced" loading class, I'm sure it will be interesting !
That said, Shooting any Antelope with your 416 Rigby lately ? Pretty impressive the hole you left and what your teaching, what ? your grandson in the picture.
What do I shoot.... 300 "Bee" Weatherby Vanguard, 270 WCF Remington 721, .30-06 Winchester M70 those are my bolt guns, friend.
Give my best to you buddies on Nosler Forum, they would fit in here in your class.
what I'm trying to prove is, a guy like you, even though you tote around this Plethora of knowledge, doesn't mean squat to me or anyone else who spouts it out. And even though you teach a "advanced" hand loading class, it appears you are missing more pertinent loading details out from your "standard" loads ? LOL
Nothing personal man... LOL It's just comical that guys like you come on these sites and appear and convince some people that they should listen to you with your magical loads or this wonderful insight. Do you understand now what I'm trying to prove ? Give us a free "advanced" loading class, I'm sure it will be interesting !
That said, Shooting any Antelope with your 416 Rigby lately ? Pretty impressive the hole you left and what your teaching, what ? your grandson in the picture.
What do I shoot.... 300 "Bee" Weatherby Vanguard, 270 WCF Remington 721, .30-06 Winchester M70 those are my bolt guns, friend.
Give my best to you buddies on Nosler Forum, they would fit in here in your class.
what I'm trying to prove is, a guy like you, even though you tote around this Plethora of knowledge, doesn't mean squat to me or anyone else who spouts it out. And even though you teach a "advanced" hand loading class, it appears you are missing more pertinent loading details out from your "standard" loads ? LOL
Nothing personal man... LOL It's just comical that guys like you come on these sites and appear and convince some people that they should listen to you with your magical loads or this wonderful insight. Do you understand now what I'm trying to prove ? Give us a free "advanced" loading class, I'm sure it will be interesting !
That said, Shooting any Antelope with your 416 Rigby lately ? Pretty impressive the hole you left and what your teaching, what ? your grandson in the picture.
What do I shoot.... 300 "Bee" Weatherby Vanguard, 270 WCF Remington 721, .30-06 Winchester M70 those are my bolt guns, friend.
Give my best to you buddies on Nosler Forum, they would fit in here in your class.
Yours Truly, Slickrem
Noted
I prefer peace. But if trouble must come, let it come in my time, so that my children may live in peace. ~~ Thomas Paine
I for one, appreciate reading about loads that do well. I realize it’s in someone else’s gun but to me it’s a starting point???.
Pharm got me using BG powder. Glad he did, cause it works and I like it. Got a big jug.
To me the reason for the Fire is to share info and learn.
Unfortunately things occasionally get a tad off track. It’s not too unlike eating chicken wings, you eat the meat, spit out the bones…
It’s worth wading thru BS to find the pearls. Can get sorta messy sometimes.
But we’re still here, at least most of us.
DF
How a bout a load manual ? Is that a good starting too ?? LMAO. Like I said he's missing more pertinent info that what he listed lacks, Mr. Advanced loading instructor he is.
I for one, appreciate reading about loads that do well. I realize it’s in someone else’s gun but to me it’s a starting point.
Pharm got me using BG powder. Glad he did, cause it works and I like it. Got a big jug.
To me the reason for the Fire is to share info and learn.
Unfortunately things occasionally get a tad off track. It’s not too unlike eating chicken wings, you eat the meat, spit out the bones…
It’s worth wading thru BS to find the pearls. Can get sorta messy sometimes.
But we’re still here, at least most of us.
DF
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Agreed. Seems many are here to stroke their massive egos.
Ya think ? LOL I only found a couple of Pearls, ones who know how to communicate respectfully and tactfully and don't spout off at the starting gate, with an pompas attitude and I don't converse with them on an open forum. For the most part the rest can take a walk.
I think most of us come on here to learn what others have done, find out what may or may not work and enjoy conversation on subjects we like. You know, guns, shooting reloading and all the related gack that goes with it.
If Anothergun does not enjoy this pastime, why does he even bother to come here a gripe about it. Seems to me he'd have better things to do with his time other than come here and complain. PJ
Our forefathers did not politely protest the British.They did not vote them out of office, nor did they impeach the king,march on the capitol or ask permission for their rights. ----------------They just shot them. MOLON LABE
I think most of us come on here to learn what others have done, find out what may or may not work and enjoy conversation on subjects we like. You know, guns, shooting reloading and all the related gack that goes with it.
If Anothergun does not enjoy this pastime, why does he even bother to come here a gripe about it. Seems to me he'd have better things to do with his time other than come here and complain. PJ
I do, what I don't enjoy is the HS a few dish out, attitude, narcissism, especially narcissism !
There's some nice people then there isn't, hope that helps.
I for one, appreciate reading about loads that do well. I realize it’s in someone else’s gun but to me it’s a starting point.
Pharm got me using BG powder. Glad he did, cause it works and I like it. Got a big jug.
To me the reason for the Fire is to share info and learn.
Unfortunately things occasionally get a tad off track. It’s not too unlike eating chicken wings, you eat the meat, spit out the bones…
It’s worth wading thru BS to find the pearls. Can get sorta messy sometimes.
But we’re still here, at least most of us.
DF
Spitting out the bones.. Well said DF.
Sometimes load manuals don't have the combination certain folks are trying to use. The powder is either new, hasn't been tested with that exact bullet or whatever. Getting a shortcut here and there never hurts if you're a smart reloader.
And then there are the folks that should just buy a box or two of good factory ammo, cause simple things are very daunting to them.
what I'm trying to prove is, a guy like you, even though you tote around this Plethora of knowledge, doesn't mean squat to me or anyone else who spouts it out. And even though you teach a "advanced" hand loading class, it appears you are missing more pertinent loading details out from your "standard" loads ? LOL
Nothing personal man... LOL It's just comical that guys like you come on these sites and appear and convince some people that they should listen to you with your magical loads or this wonderful insight. Do you understand now what I'm trying to prove ? Give us a free "advanced" loading class, I'm sure it will be interesting !
That said, Shooting any Antelope with your 416 Rigby lately ? Pretty impressive the hole you left and what your teaching, what ? your grandson in the picture.
What do I shoot.... 300 "Bee" Weatherby Vanguard, 270 WCF Remington 721, .30-06 Winchester M70 those are my bolt guns, friend.
Give my best to you buddies on Nosler Forum, they would fit in here in your class.
Yours Truly,
Slickrem
OK....I thought you sounded familiar..........so you're still pissed at me for getting banned from the nosler forum by another moderator. Well over here you can get it out of your system.
Based on that and that alone, anything I would try to communicate to you would be in vain.
BTW that was a 416 Bee and that was my son...I do not have a Rigby. Next year might be my 460 Bee...who knows?
what I'm trying to prove is, a guy like you, even though you tote around this Plethora of knowledge, doesn't mean squat to me or anyone else who spouts it out. And even though you teach a "advanced" hand loading class, it appears you are missing more pertinent loading details out from your "standard" loads ? LOL
Nothing personal man... LOL It's just comical that guys like you come on these sites and appear and convince some people that they should listen to you with your magical loads or this wonderful insight. Do you understand now what I'm trying to prove ? Give us a free "advanced" loading class, I'm sure it will be interesting !
That said, Shooting any Antelope with your 416 Rigby lately ? Pretty impressive the hole you left and what your teaching, what ? your grandson in the picture.
What do I shoot.... 300 "Bee" Weatherby Vanguard, 270 WCF Remington 721, .30-06 Winchester M70 those are my bolt guns, friend.
Give my best to you buddies on Nosler Forum, they would fit in here in your class.
Yours Truly, Slickrem
OK....I thought you sounded familiar..........so you're still pissed at me for getting banned from the nosler forum by another moderator. Well over here you can get it out of your system.
Based on that and that alone, anything I would try to communicate with you would be in vain.
BTW that was a 416 Bee...I do not have a Rigby
Me getting banned over there has nothing to do with it, but it does resemble this site, ego's and clicky fellows you know ? LOL I ain't got an axe to grind with you other than posting loads without details, that your Weatherbys doesn't need to be part of. But in other rifles of a lesser nature need to be "tweaked", Follow ? Ie; Neck tension, Concentricty, OAL etc........
what I'm trying to prove is, a guy like you, even though you tote around this Plethora of knowledge, doesn't mean squat to me or anyone else who spouts it out. And even though you teach a "advanced" hand loading class, it appears you are missing more pertinent loading details out from your "standard" loads ? LOL
Nothing personal man... LOL It's just comical that guys like you come on these sites and appear and convince some people that they should listen to you with your magical loads or this wonderful insight. Do you understand now what I'm trying to prove ? Give us a free "advanced" loading class, I'm sure it will be interesting !
That said, Shooting any Antelope with your 416 Rigby lately ? Pretty impressive the hole you left and what your teaching, what ? your grandson in the picture.
What do I shoot.... 300 "Bee" Weatherby Vanguard, 270 WCF Remington 721, .30-06 Winchester M70 those are my bolt guns, friend.
Give my best to you buddies on Nosler Forum, they would fit in here in your class.
Yours Truly, Slickrem
OK....I thought you sounded familiar..........so you're still pissed at me for getting banned from the nosler forum by another moderator. Well over here you can get it out of your system.
Based on that and that alone, anything I would try to communicate with you would be in vain.
BTW that was a 416 Bee...I do not have a Rigby
Me getting banned over there has nothing to do with it, but it does resemble this site, ego's and clicky fellows you know ? LOL I ain't got an axe to grind with you other than posting loads without details, that your Weatherbys doesn't need to be part of. But in other rifles of a lesser nature need to be "tweaked", Follow ? Ie; Neck tension, Concentricty, OAL etc........
Just for grins, why would you think other rifles need to be tweaked but Weatherby's are exempt from the procedures? Just trying to track the train of thought.
what I'm trying to prove is, a guy like you, even though you tote around this Plethora of knowledge, doesn't mean squat to me or anyone else who spouts it out. And even though you teach a "advanced" hand loading class, it appears you are missing more pertinent loading details out from your "standard" loads ? LOL
Nothing personal man... LOL It's just comical that guys like you come on these sites and appear and convince some people that they should listen to you with your magical loads or this wonderful insight. Do you understand now what I'm trying to prove ? Give us a free "advanced" loading class, I'm sure it will be interesting !
That said, Shooting any Antelope with your 416 Rigby lately ? Pretty impressive the hole you left and what your teaching, what ? your grandson in the picture.
What do I shoot.... 300 "Bee" Weatherby Vanguard, 270 WCF Remington 721, .30-06 Winchester M70 those are my bolt guns, friend.
Give my best to you buddies on Nosler Forum, they would fit in here in your class.
Yours Truly, Slickrem
OK....I thought you sounded familiar..........so you're still pissed at me for getting banned from the nosler forum by another moderator. Well over here you can get it out of your system.
Based on that and that alone, anything I would try to communicate with you would be in vain.
BTW that was a 416 Bee...I do not have a Rigby
Me getting banned over there has nothing to do with it, but it does resemble this site, ego's and clicky fellows you know ? LOL I ain't got an axe to grind with you other than posting loads without details, that your Weatherbys doesn't need to be part of. But in other rifles of a lesser nature need to be "tweaked", Follow ? Ie; Neck tension, Concentricty, OAL etc........
Just for grins, why would you think other rifles need to be tweaked but Weathersby's are exempt from the procedures? Just trying to track the train of thought.
Based on that statement doesn't sound like you have a Weatherby. I have one and it doesn't take any special procedures to make one shoot well but has a round that tends to drift just a little bit and I bought a Lee Collet die for it. I just FL size, charge near max, OAL to book length and shoot. My Remington and Winchester need a little more attention to shoot well.
what I'm trying to prove is, a guy like you, even though you tote around this Plethora of knowledge, doesn't mean squat to me or anyone else who spouts it out. And even though you teach a "advanced" hand loading class, it appears you are missing more pertinent loading details out from your "standard" loads ? LOL
Nothing personal man... LOL It's just comical that guys like you come on these sites and appear and convince some people that they should listen to you with your magical loads or this wonderful insight. Do you understand now what I'm trying to prove ? Give us a free "advanced" loading class, I'm sure it will be interesting !
That said, Shooting any Antelope with your 416 Rigby lately ? Pretty impressive the hole you left and what your teaching, what ? your grandson in the picture.
What do I shoot.... 300 "Bee" Weatherby Vanguard, 270 WCF Remington 721, .30-06 Winchester M70 those are my bolt guns, friend.
Give my best to you buddies on Nosler Forum, they would fit in here in your class.
Yours Truly, Slickrem
OK....I thought you sounded familiar..........so you're still pissed at me for getting banned from the nosler forum by another moderator. Well over here you can get it out of your system.
Based on that and that alone, anything I would try to communicate with you would be in vain.
BTW that was a 416 Bee...I do not have a Rigby
Me getting banned over there has nothing to do with it, but it does resemble this site, ego's and clicky fellows you know ? LOL I ain't got an axe to grind with you other than posting loads without details, that your Weatherbys doesn't need to be part of. But in other rifles of a lesser nature need to be "tweaked", Follow ? Ie; Neck tension, Concentricty, OAL etc........
Just for grins, why would you think other rifles need to be tweaked but Weathersby's are exempt from the procedures? Just trying to track the train of thought.
Based on that statement doesn't sound like you have a Weatherby. I have one and it doesn't take any special procedures to make one shoot well but has a round that tends to drift just a little bit and I bought a Lee Collet die for it. I just FL size, charge near max, OAL to book length and shoot. My Remington and Winchester need a little more attention to shoot well.
I have a few of the Howas and a handful of MK5's but I've noted them to be much/if any different than any other rifle I've used or loaded for. Sounds like you got a good one. Is your Weatherby a 7-08?
I understand the reference to loading manuals. Basic info for sure and a good place to start.
But they don’t cover fine points and details we get from hands on experience from Fire contributors.
DF
Guess you missed what l told Fotis. He just listed a load, with no advance load techniques. You get that from load manuals, don’t ya??? Nuttin special about them. What’s so special about these loads?
7mm rem and 160 gr 66 gr RL 22 30-06 around 56 gr of H or IMR 4350 180 gr 270 Win 130 gr with 60 gr H4831 or rl 22 300 Win Mag 180 gr and 76 gr of H4831 or RL 22 30-06 150 gr around 53 gr IMR 4064
I understand the reference to loading manuals. Basic info for sure and a good place to start.
But they don’t cover fine points and details we get from hands on experience from Fire contributors.
DF
Guess you missed what l told Fotis. He just listed a load, with no advance load techniques. You get that from load manuals, don’t ya??? Nuttin special about them. What’s so special about these loads?
7mm rem and 160 gr 66 gr RL 22 30-06 around 56 gr of H or IMR 4350 180 gr 270 Win 130 gr with 60 gr H4831 or rl 22 300 Win Mag 180 gr and 76 gr of H4831 or RL 22 30-06 150 gr around 53 gr IMR 4064
What’s advanced about them? Other than load a few grains below them to make sure they are safe? Most all of those loads have been around longer than me.
I understand the reference to loading manuals. Basic info for sure and a good place to start.
But they don’t cover fine points and details we get from hands on experience from Fire contributors.
DF
Guess you missed what l told Fotis. He just listed a load, with no advance load techniques. You get that from load manuals, don’t ya??? Nuttin special about them. What’s so special about these loads?
7mm rem and 160 gr 66 gr RL 22 30-06 around 56 gr of H or IMR 4350 180 gr 270 Win 130 gr with 60 gr H4831 or rl 22 300 Win Mag 180 gr and 76 gr of H4831 or RL 22 30-06 150 gr around 53 gr IMR 4064
What’s advanced about them? Other than load a few grains below them to make sure they are safe? Most all of those loads have been around longer than me.
I understand the reference to loading manuals. Basic info for sure and a good place to start.
But they don’t cover fine points and details we get from hands on experience from Fire contributors.
DF
Guess you missed what l told Fotis. He just listed a load, with no advance load techniques. You get that from load manuals, don’t ya??? Nuttin special about them. What’s so special about these loads?
7mm rem and 160 gr 66 gr RL 22 30-06 around 56 gr of H or IMR 4350 180 gr 270 Win 130 gr with 60 gr H4831 or rl 22 300 Win Mag 180 gr and 76 gr of H4831 or RL 22 30-06 150 gr around 53 gr IMR 4064
What’s advanced about them? Other than load a few grains below them to make sure they are safe? Most all of those loads have been around longer than me.
Nothing! that's my point ! LOL ! Duh !
So what’s your point? I don’t get you SR.
You don’t even own a 7mm and you crush a fellas post with debate about something you don’t have while admitting you don’t shoot much? No experience, no help, nothing.
I can guarantee if I wanted a LRX load, I’d copy what Fotis or other posters have done and approach it like any load in any manual and chances are I’d find a load.
Load manuals are great resources to double and triple check safety but they aren’t the Bible.
I understand the reference to loading manuals. Basic info for sure and a good place to start.
But they don’t cover fine points and details we get from hands on experience from Fire contributors.
DF
Guess you missed what l told Fotis. He just listed a load, with no advance load techniques. You get that from load manuals, don’t ya??? Nuttin special about them. What’s so special about these loads?
7mm rem and 160 gr 66 gr RL 22 30-06 around 56 gr of H or IMR 4350 180 gr 270 Win 130 gr with 60 gr H4831 or rl 22 300 Win Mag 180 gr and 76 gr of H4831 or RL 22 30-06 150 gr around 53 gr IMR 4064
What’s advanced about them? Other than load a few grains below them to make sure they are safe? Most all of those loads have been around longer than me.
Quote
What’s advanced about them?
Nothing! that's my point ! LOL ! Duh !
Dude, you getting sorta testy with some very well respected and long standing Fire contributors.
And for no obvious reason. I don’t see where they have disrespected you. From my years here, it’s just not their style.
We do have some in that category, but not these guys.
I understand the reference to loading manuals. Basic info for sure and a good place to start.
But they don’t cover fine points and details we get from hands on experience from Fire contributors.
DF
Guess you missed what l told Fotis. He just listed a load, with no advance load techniques. You get that from load manuals, don’t ya??? Nuttin special about them. What’s so special about these loads?
7mm rem and 160 gr 66 gr RL 22 30-06 around 56 gr of H or IMR 4350 180 gr 270 Win 130 gr with 60 gr H4831 or rl 22 300 Win Mag 180 gr and 76 gr of H4831 or RL 22 30-06 150 gr around 53 gr IMR 4064
What’s advanced about them? Other than load a few grains below them to make sure they are safe? Most all of those loads have been around longer than me.
Quote
What’s advanced about them?
Nothing! that's my point ! LOL ! Duh !
Dude, you getting sorta testy with some very well respected and long standing Fire contributors.
And for no obvious reason. I don’t see where they have disrespected you. From my years here, it’s just not their style.
We do have some in that category, but not these guys.
I understand the reference to loading manuals. Basic info for sure and a good place to start.
But they don’t cover fine points and details we get from hands on experience from Fire contributors.
DF
Guess you missed what l told Fotis. He just listed a load, with no advance load techniques. You get that from load manuals, don’t ya??? Nuttin special about them. What’s so special about these loads?
7mm rem and 160 gr 66 gr RL 22 30-06 around 56 gr of H or IMR 4350 180 gr 270 Win 130 gr with 60 gr H4831 or rl 22 300 Win Mag 180 gr and 76 gr of H4831 or RL 22 30-06 150 gr around 53 gr IMR 4064
What’s advanced about them? Other than load a few grains below them to make sure they are safe? Most all of those loads have been around longer than me.
Nothing! that's my point ! LOL ! Duh !
So what’s your point? I don’t get you SR.
You don’t even own a 7mm and you crush a fellas post with debate about something you don’t have while admitting you don’t shoot much? No experience, no help, nothing.
I can guarantee if I wanted a LRX load, I’d copy what Fotis or other posters have done and approach it like any load in any manual and chances are I’d find a load.
Load manuals are great resources to double and triple check safety but they aren’t the Bible.
You have no room to talk boy, and your boyish talk from middle school. Grow up. The ones who like to think thier superior to others and try and bury them underground are the ones with a mental problem and you have the mentality of a 13 year old
And no need to keep sending me pm’s, deleting without reading. Why is everyone of your meaningless posts edited? Mommy proof reading for you?
That's a maser tell.
Been down that road with him in previous arguments that everyone got mad at me for getting into. Haven't had any dealings with this maser joker other than what I've seen others comment about him. Funny thing is though, just as soon as I eluded to anothertwat being maser, this maser started "following" my profile. Coincidence? I had to put anothertwat on ignore to stop the PMs.
I prefer peace. But if trouble must come, let it come in my time, so that my children may live in peace. ~~ Thomas Paine
I bet the tipped gameking would be deadly on most large game.....
I just ordered up a box to try in my 308. They seem like a good addition. Joel D took an elk with the 165 out of the Mashburn Super. Bullet blew thru pretty nicely which lends that it ain't a cream puff.
Yup I heard they were tougher than the regular gameking. I used the 130 out of my 6.5 PRC but have not taken any game.
Have heard the same.
The 140 SGK HPBT at around 2,750 fps out of my 7RM seems a bit more expansive on game than the 140 NBT and a tad more accurate. It does exit chest shot WT's, no experience with bone hits.
I haven't tried the Tipped SGK's but have read good reports.
And no need to keep sending me pm’s, deleting without reading. Why is everyone of your meaningless posts edited? Mommy proof reading for you?
That's a maser tell.
Been down that road with him in previous arguments that everyone got mad at me for getting into. Haven't had any dealings with this maser joker other than what I've seen others comment about him. Funny thing is though, just as soon as I eluded to anothertwat being maser, this maser started "following" my profile. Coincidence? I had to put anothertwat on ignore to stop the PMs.
that should tell you something, but you're not aware of yourself
Yup I heard they were tougher than the regular gameking. I used the 130 out of my 6.5 PRC but have not taken any game.
And what could you be possibly be looing for in a bullet now ? LOL I tested the majors in wet telephone books and the Prohunter expanded the best out of all of them, and all of them provided the same penetration. Guess you're wondering what caliber and weight.... .243 100 grainers. I'm thinking larger cal would be better. Prohunters are practically non existent and who knows when they'll be back. Any deer I shot flattened like a bolt of lightening hit them. Course any bullet of any manufacture did the same thing.
And no need to keep sending me pm’s, deleting without reading. Why is everyone of your meaningless posts edited? Mommy proof reading for you?
That's a maser tell.
Been down that road with him in previous arguments that everyone got mad at me for getting into. Haven't had any dealings with this maser joker other than what I've seen others comment about him. Funny thing is though, just as soon as I eluded to anothertwat being maser, this maser started "following" my profile. Coincidence? I had to put anothertwat on ignore to stop the PMs.
that should tell you something, but you're not aware of yourself
Oh I'm quite certain it wasn't in your defense.
Nobody likes you, you should just go away, seriously.
I prefer peace. But if trouble must come, let it come in my time, so that my children may live in peace. ~~ Thomas Paine
And no need to keep sending me pm’s, deleting without reading. Why is everyone of your meaningless posts edited? Mommy proof reading for you?
That's a maser tell.
Been down that road with him in previous arguments that everyone got mad at me for getting into. Haven't had any dealings with this maser joker other than what I've seen others comment about him. Funny thing is though, just as soon as I eluded to anothertwat being maser, this maser started "following" my profile. Coincidence? I had to put anothertwat on ignore to stop the PMs.
that should tell you something, but you're not aware of yourself
Oh I'm quite certain it wasn't in your defense.
Nobody likes you, you should just go away, seriously.
First of all it's not true not everyone doesn't like me, and I'm not concerned what some, which are few, think I don't know, the truth is they don't like the fact that I argue with guys like you. On the other hand you like to argue and post, most of the time, USELESS information on top of it.
You’re a conceited, plain and simple with your narcissistic bs posts. Now that’s quite certain!! Quite a few told me via pm that you’re a bum ! So don’t flatter yourself !
anotherdickhead you are one dumb sim bitch. I told you I’m not opening your pm’s. Now go have your mommy wipe your nose it’s time for your dinner. You mentally challenged piece of chit
First of all it's not true not everyone doesn't like me, and I'm not concerned what some, which are few, think I don't know, the truth is they don't like the fact that I argue with guys like you.
Nobody likes the fact you argue at all because you don't bring a good argument to the table. Blithering idiocy is the best you can do which is one thing, but you simply can't resist trainwrecking someone's thread with it.
Originally Posted by anothergun
On the other hand you like to argue and post, most of the time, USELESS information on top of it.
No, I don't like to argue. I just have a zero tolerance for stupid fuc-kers. There's a difference.
Originally Posted by anothergun
You’re a conceited, plain and simple with your narcissistic bs posts. Now that’s quite certain!!
You're a damn democrat aren't you....because THAT'S exactly how democrats justify their existence. Do/say azzloads of stupid chit then accuse others of doing the exact same thing.
Originally Posted by anothergun
Quite a few told me via pm that you’re a bum ! So don’t flatter yourself !
Now THAT'S funny, that "quite a few" would PM you at all for anything.
Post up those PMs princess, names included or it don't count.
I prefer peace. But if trouble must come, let it come in my time, so that my children may live in peace. ~~ Thomas Paine
First of all it's not true not everyone doesn't like me, and I'm not concerned what some, which are few, think I don't know, the truth is they don't like the fact that I argue with guys like you.
Nobody likes the fact you argue at all because you don't bring a good argument to the table. Blithering idiocy is the best you can do which is one thing, but you simply can't resist trainwrecking someone's thread with it.
Originally Posted by anothergun
On the other hand you like to argue and post, most of the time, USELESS information on top of it.
No, I don't like to argue. I just have a zero tolerance for stupid fuc-kers. There's a difference.
Originally Posted by anothergun
You’re a conceited, plain and simple with your narcissistic bs posts. Now that’s quite certain!!
You're a damn democrat aren't you....because THAT'S exactly how democrats justify their existence. Do/say azzloads of stupid chit then accuse others of doing the exact same thing.
Originally Posted by anothergun
Quite a few told me via pm that you’re a bum ! So don’t flatter yourself !
Now THAT'S funny, that "quite a few" would PM you at all for anything.
Post up those PMs princess, names included or it don't count.
First of all it's not true not everyone doesn't like me, and I'm not concerned what some, which are few, think I don't know, the truth is they don't like the fact that I argue with guys like you.
Nobody likes the fact you argue at all because you don't bring a good argument to the table. Blithering idiocy is the best you can do which is one thing, but you simply can't resist trainwrecking someone's thread with it.
Originally Posted by anothergun
On the other hand you like to argue and post, most of the time, USELESS information on top of it.
No, I don't like to argue. I just have a zero tolerance for stupid fuc-kers. There's a difference.
Originally Posted by anothergun
You’re a conceited, plain and simple with your narcissistic bs posts. Now that’s quite certain!!
You're a damn democrat aren't you....because THAT'S exactly how democrats justify their existence. Do/say azzloads of stupid chit then accuse others of doing the exact same thing.
Originally Posted by anothergun
Quite a few told me via pm that you’re a bum ! So don’t flatter yourself !
Now THAT'S funny, that "quite a few" would PM you at all for anything.
Post up those PMs princess, names included or it don't count.
you don't bring a good argument to the table.
YOU LYING BASTARD... you've been had countless times, just because it's not the way you do things..... you're small and that's all there is to it. Little [bleep] !
anotherdickhead the best part of you is still swishing and swashing around in your mommy’s stink hole.
I have started using StaBALL 6.5 in my 7mm-08. The powder flows through my dispenser like water! I'm using a Hornady 139 grain Interlock BTSP. The accuracy is great and I should be getting over 2,750 fps from my short 18 1/2" barrel.
Looking forward to thumping a whitetail or a hog with it!
I have started using StaBALL 6.5 in my 7mm-08. The powder flows through my dispenser like water! I'm using a Hornady 139 grain Interlock BTSP. The accuracy is great and I should be getting over 2,750 fps from my short 18 1/2" barrel.
Looking forward to thumping a whitetail or a hog with it!
Chris
I have a couple of cans, just never tried it in the 7-08. Have heard good things about it.
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