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Using the now discontinued Foul-Out system I removed a lot of copper from barrels. It takes copper of the barrel an deposits it on the center rod.


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The guy is FOS.

It was reminiscent of one of those "The Real Gunsmith" videos.

I would have said the guy is "dumber than a box of schitt", but John is more politically correct than I am grin

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He is wrong. I have had rifles copper foul. Cleaned the copper out and they started shooting good again.

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Originally Posted by mathman
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The guy is FOS.

It was reminiscent of one of those "The Real Gunsmith" videos.

Yes, I can't stand his videos either.

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The guy is FOS.

It was reminiscent of one of those "The Real Gunsmith" videos.

Yes, I can't stand his videos either.

To be honest, it is pure comedy and reading the comments is good at times.. They both bank off the same thing, strong opinions that people take as vast experience.


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Yeah, which is why many you-tube videos are about stirring "s--t", not information. They get paid by clicks.

But the same thing is true about many of today's magazine articles--especially those that also appear on the Internet. In fact, they have to stir up stuff, to compete with videos like this one....


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Yeah, which is why many you-tube videos are about stirring "s--t", not information. They get paid by clicks.

But the same thing is true about many of today's magazine articles--especially those that also appear on the Internet. In fact, they have to stir up stuff, to compete with videos like this one....

It is a helluva way to gain followers.


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Yeah, which is why many you-tube videos are about stirring "s--t", not information. They get paid by clicks.

But the same thing is true about many of today's magazine articles--especially those that also appear on the Internet. In fact, they have to stir up stuff, to compete with videos like this one....

Reminds me of Elmer Keith and Jack O’Connor. Things haven’t changed much. Lol.

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Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
He is very entertaining at times though. There is no myth to copper fouling and there have been endless posts here about how to remove, reduce it .











Or not even worry about it. Study up, genius!


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Originally Posted by PJGunner
He's about as FOS as a Christmas goose.

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You must have an unconventional Christmas goose recipe.

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Had me think about it for a second, but whenever I've put Sweets or Boretech Cu Remover/Eliminator in the barrel, I get a lot of blue coming out.

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Originally Posted by SheriffJoe
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He is very entertaining at times though. There is no myth to copper fouling and there have been endless posts here about how to remove, reduce it .











Or not even worry about it. Study up, genius!
GFY... I have a few rifles that sometimes foul and others that do not.

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Not allways the rifle some bullets are bad that way. First original Barnes X bullets copper fouled bad enough to ruin the groups in 12 rounds in my mkV 270 wthby with 130 gr x bullets from factory PMC made Eldorado loads. Took a lot of effort to get clean. SAME thing happened in a lefthand 240 wthby mag with the blue coated x bullets. Stopped using the x period. I have some triple shocks now without the same problem but it sure soured me on Barnes bullets...mb


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Swift A Frames are also pretty bad foulers, but man, they work!


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Originally Posted by Magnum_Bob
Not allways the rifle some bullets are bad that way. First original Barnes X bullets copper fouled bad enough to ruin the groups in 12 rounds in my mkV 270 wthby with 130 gr x bullets from factory PMC made Eldorado loads. Took a lot of effort to get clean. SAME thing happened in a lefthand 240 wthby mag with the blue coated x bullets. Stopped using the x period. I have some triple shocks now without the same problem but it sure soured me on Barnes bullets...mb

Bob,

You haven't tried Triple Shocks before now? Just wondering!

Actually, I found the last few years of the original X-Bullets didn't foul nearly as much, and grouped very well. Talked this over with Randy Brooks, and he said it was because they finally could get consistently good copper, which helped making consistent bullets much easier. I believed him--because at the time I was hunting a lot with two rifles, a Ruger Hawkeye 6.5x55 and a CZ 9,3x62--which BOTH shot the new Xs (not TSX's) into tiny groups--and didn't copper-foul more than average cup-and-core bullets. (Of course, both had very good barrels.)

But the TSXs were a game-changer. We first started using them in 2004, shortly after they were introduced.

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I have had zero issues with Barnes TTSX with regards to copper fouling, cleaned up easily. I used them in a 240,257 and 270 weatherby they were extremely accurate as well..

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