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You serve in some super secret spec ops unit Burnsie? What was your mos?


I’d love to see actually see you in a fist fight. Can you do one push up now? Lol

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Burns

Were you a pilot?

Navy SEAL?

Delta Force?

Tank commander?

Force recon?

You seem to be an accomplished subject matter experts in all of these area


Just curious

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John, how long was the Tomcat in service? How long has the F-35 been operationally deployed? Comparing their safety record is a little apples and oranges.

The F-35 has a lot of capabilities that can’t be discussed here. A friend of mine, a Marine colonel has deployed with the F-35 and he told me that once the pilot gets the hang of using everything, it’s an incredible platform. Personally, I’d much rather fight in a two engine platform with the redundant electrical and hydraulic systems.

Can a f35 land on a dirt river road in a a combat area like a SU

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I thought Russian won months ago……


Must need em 4 a parade?


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I thought Putin would march through Ukraine like Sherman through Georga.


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Originally Posted by wabigoon
I thought Putin would march through Ukraine like Sherman through Georga.

A lot of people did, and I thought they might too.

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Originally Posted by Angus1895
HUH?…………



I thought Russian won months ago……


Must need em 4 a parade?

Thirty one countries now against one "backward gas station" as Obama and McCain called Russia. You would think with 31 against 1 it would have ended long ago and the sanctions would have worked lol


And the banking system is collapsing now in the US Canada and Europe and inflation continues to sky rocket to prop up a corrupt regime run by NAZIS and trannies. lol


20 years and over a trillion dollars and the Afghan goat herders just kicked out the most powerful army in world history humiliating them and took biliions of their high tech weapons

clown world

saliva Ukraine!

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Originally Posted by navlav8r
John, how long was the Tomcat in service? How long has the F-35 been operationally deployed? Comparing their safety record is a little apples and oranges.

The F-35 has a lot of capabilities that can’t be discussed here. A friend of mine, a Marine colonel has deployed with the F-35 and he told me that once the pilot gets the hang of using everything, it’s an incredible platform. Personally, I’d much rather fight in a two engine platform with the redundant electrical and hydraulic systems.


My old boss, retired USAF Col, headed up the testing program for the AF version of the F35. He's got lots of combat time and has flow something like 30 military aircraft (including a MiG). He's biased of course but he thinks the F35 is the best plane he's ever flown.


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I would guess that's just about exactly what they will use them for. They probably have very little ammunition they could trust for the smaller guns. Give them each a round or two and send them in. When they get to PBR try the gun. If it goes off even if it doesn't work well or hit anything, it still has to draw return fire. One less 300,000 dollar missile for tanks that are more likely to work. They can probably accomplish that mission with a one or two man crew. and Russia seems to be inclined toward expendable bodies so only one or two is better than a squad or a full tank crew.

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Originally Posted by viking
Brilliant, send in old stuff to use up the Ukes anti tank weapons.
LOL this ^^^
Then send in the Wagner Group human waves and use up all the Uke's small arms ammo.
Putin is a great military strategist and has many T-34's in currently in museums to be sent in for the mop up.


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How did the F 35 handle modern Air defense systems in combat scenarios?



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Originally Posted by navlav8r
John, how long was the Tomcat in service? How long has the F-35 been operationally deployed? Comparing their safety record is a little apples and oranges.

The F-35 has a lot of capabilities that can’t be discussed here. A friend of mine, a Marine colonel has deployed with the F-35 and he told me that once the pilot gets the hang of using everything, it’s an incredible platform. Personally, I’d much rather fight in a two engine platform with the redundant electrical and hydraulic systems.


My old boss, retired USAF Col, headed up the testing program for the AF version of the F35. He's got lots of combat time and has flow something like 30 military aircraft (including a MiG). He's biased of course but he thinks the F35 is the best plane he's ever flown.


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Originally Posted by MILES58
I would guess that's just about exactly what they will use them for. They probably have very little ammunition they could trust for the smaller guns. Give them each a round or two and send them in. When they get to PBR try the gun. If it goes off even if it doesn't work well or hit anything, it still has to draw return fire. One less 300,000 dollar missile for tanks that are more likely to work. They can probably accomplish that mission with a one or two man crew. and Russia seems to be inclined toward expendable bodies so only one or two is better than a squad or a full tank crew.


so that is how Russians use tanks and BMP's in their infantry and marines? Russia has no ammunition now?

Where did you read that?

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Originally Posted by Direct_Drive
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Brilliant, send in old stuff to use up the Ukes anti tank weapons.
LOL this ^^^
Then send in the Wagner Group human waves and use up all the Ulke's small arms ammo.
Putin is a great military strategist and has many T-34's in currently in museums to be sent in for the mop up.

How many millions does Russia have now serving in Wagner to employ the "human wave" strategy? How many times has Wagner units deployed the "human wave" strategy fighting most in urban areas?

I d like to see a link

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Originally Posted by ribka
How did the F 35 handle modern Air defense systems in combat scenarios?



Originally Posted by Steve
Originally Posted by navlav8r
John, how long was the Tomcat in service? How long has the F-35 been operationally deployed? Comparing their safety record is a little apples and oranges.

The F-35 has a lot of capabilities that can’t be discussed here. A friend of mine, a Marine colonel has deployed with the F-35 and he told me that once the pilot gets the hang of using everything, it’s an incredible platform. Personally, I’d much rather fight in a two engine platform with the redundant electrical and hydraulic systems.


My old boss, retired USAF Col, headed up the testing program for the AF version of the F35. He's got lots of combat time and has flow something like 30 military aircraft (including a MiG). He's biased of course but he thinks the F35 is the best plane he's ever flown.


FWIW.

Don't know. Just sharing what he told me. Not sure how much of that he could talk about.


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Originally Posted by ribka
so that is how Russians use tanks and BMP's in their infantry and marines? Russia has no ammunition now?

Where did you read that?

The T34 had a 3 inch gun. The T54 had a 100mm gun Both much smaller than the T72/T82. Why would they have current ammo for either? Priming and powder from WWII was corrosive and deteriorated respectively.

Getting enough out of those old tanks to cover the cost of fuel has to come from somewhere, and the only logical place is burning off ammunition the Ukes have so they don't spend that ammo on their current tanks. The are using their T72/T82 tanks because had they started with the T90s/T14s they'd have nothing left but the T72/T82 junkers. 500 gallons of fuel at their cost is probably a worthwhile trade off for them if they can get the Ukes to shoot something expensive at the old T34/T54 tanks.

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Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by Angus1895
HUH?…………



I thought Russian won months ago……


Must need em 4 a parade?

Thirty one countries now against one "backward gas station" as Obama and McCain called Russia. You would think with 31 against 1 it would have ended long ago and the sanctions would have worked lol


And the banking system is collapsing now in the US Canada and Europe and inflation continues to sky rocket to prop up a corrupt regime run by NAZIS and trannies. lol


20 years and over a trillion dollars and the Afghan goat herders just kicked out the most powerful army in world history humiliating them and took biliions of their high tech weapons

clown world

saliva Ukraine!


IMO, the goat fuggers didn't kick us out. Biden turned tail and ran. Left our brothers and sisters to basically fend for themselves

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Originally Posted by Joel/AK
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by Angus1895
HUH?…………



I thought Russian won months ago……


Must need em 4 a parade?

Thirty one countries now against one "backward gas station" as Obama and McCain called Russia. You would think with 31 against 1 it would have ended long ago and the sanctions would have worked lol


And the banking system is collapsing now in the US Canada and Europe and inflation continues to sky rocket to prop up a corrupt regime run by NAZIS and trannies. lol


20 years and over a trillion dollars and the Afghan goat herders just kicked out the most powerful army in world history humiliating them and took biliions of their high tech weapons

clown world

saliva Ukraine!


IMO, the goat fuggers didn't kick us out. Biden turned tail and ran. Left our brothers and sisters to basically fend for themselves
That's right ^^^
The mission was over, Bin Laden was dead and it was time to GTFO of that schitthole.
Biden and his incompetence didn't know how to do it.
Bagram Airbase should have been where the last American got airborne.


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So tell us
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31 countries want to help Ukraine?


And U know better?

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Originally Posted by Joel/AK
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by Angus1895
HUH?…………



I thought Russian won months ago……


Must need em 4 a parade?

Thirty one countries now against one "backward gas station" as Obama and McCain called Russia. You would think with 31 against 1 it would have ended long ago and the sanctions would have worked lol


And the banking system is collapsing now in the US Canada and Europe and inflation continues to sky rocket to prop up a corrupt regime run by NAZIS and trannies. lol


20 years and over a trillion dollars and the Afghan goat herders just kicked out the most powerful army in world history humiliating them and took biliions of their high tech weapons

clown world

saliva Ukraine!


IMO, the goat fuggers didn't kick us out. Biden turned tail and ran. Left our brothers and sisters to basically fend for themselves

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Originally Posted by Direct_Drive
That's right ^^^
The mission was over, Bin Laden was dead and it was time to GTFO of that schitthole.
Biden and his incompetence didn't know how to do it.
Bagram Airbase should have been where the last American got airborne.

Kinda simplified for the few dummie Anti Americans here on the fire but this is pretty much right.

Trying to nation build, spending American blood, in an area that will never be a real nation was a fools errand.

Helping Ukraine become the country they want to be by sending weapons is a much better use of US assets.

Will pay handsome dividends in the future.


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Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by Direct_Drive
That's right ^^^
The mission was over, Bin Laden was dead and it was time to GTFO of that schitthole.
Biden and his incompetence didn't know how to do it.
Bagram Airbase should have been where the last American got airborne.

Kinda simplified for the few dummie Anti Americans here on the fire but this is pretty much right.

Trying to nation build, spending American blood, in an area that will never be a real nation was a fools errand.

Helping Ukraine become the country they want to be by sending weapons is a much better use of US assets.

Will pay handsome dividends in the future.
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Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Helping Ukraine become the country they want to be by sending weapons is a much better use of US assets.

Will pay handsome dividends in the future.

Ukraine has been paying handsome dividends to Democrat investments, courtesy of the American taxpayers, for the past several years. So you want that investment model to continue?? Pfft...


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