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Went through the same thing a while back and went to H4350 and like it even better. Since then that too has been impossible to find and went to Accurate 4350. It does not seem as amenable to creating loads but that could be because I also had to switch bullets from Sierra to Speer. I have been able to get two calibers pretty dialed in with it but while doing some tested I found in at least one sampling the load I had for Accurate 4350 gave me identical POI's to my load for H4381sc.
crazy. I've generally found it easier to achieve tight groups with Sierra bullets. Ditto. Switching to speers is just asking for inaccuracy. I'd use Hornady interlocks and Winchester power points way before going to Speers. Those worked well for indians though.. Just about as accurate too, in my experience. and performed just fine on deer for me. It's true they can shoot very well, I've had them do so. The odds favor Sierras.
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Either H4350 or W760 will fit the bill. Here in the U.S., Big Game costs less than either--and is very available. It also has just about the same burn-rate as 760, but burns cleaner and is just about as temperature-resistant as H4350.
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I'm using AA2700 in my .243. Accuracy seems to be good. I don't have a chrono so I don't know what the velocity is.
kwg
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Like everything else...depending on availability...Norma 204 loads just about identically to H 4350. Have only used it so far with 243 Win, but same charge, same bullet, and same velocity. Got 8# from PV a few years ago when any 4350 was unobtanium.
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I'm using AA2700 in my .243. Accuracy seems to be good. I don't have a chrono so I don't know what the velocity is.
kwg Accurate 2700 is the same powder as W760 (and the "discontinued" H414) in a different canister.
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Went through the same thing a while back and went to H4350 and like it even better. Since then that too has been impossible to find and went to Accurate 4350. It does not seem as amenable to creating loads but that could be because I also had to switch bullets from Sierra to Speer. I have been able to get two calibers pretty dialed in with it but while doing some tested I found in at least one sampling the load I had for Accurate 4350 gave me identical POI's to my load for H4381sc.
crazy. I've generally found it easier to achieve tight groups with Sierra bullets. In 62 years of hand loading I've found Sierra bullets to be the most accurate bullets on average.
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I’ve had good results with IMR 4451 in a couple of rifles.
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Campfire Kahuna
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Unfortunately IMR4451, while a great powder, has been discontinued, at least for the time being. This was announced several months ago.
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Use one of the higher listed powders in your load book.
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Hunter works excellent for me in 243Win W/85’s and 270 Win W/130-140gn bullets. It’s not on your list, but, another use for me is 75’s from a 1:8 22-250.
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Campfire 'Bwana
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I'm using AA2700 in my .243. Accuracy seems to be good. I don't have a chrono so I don't know what the velocity is.
kwg Same powder as H 414 and W 760 in case ya didn't know...
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Was in our local Sportsman Whorehouse this weekend...
Don't know the price ( as there were 2 guys waiting on 12 people who were there wanting to buy guns ), but they had H4350, IMR 4350 and AA 4350 all in stock.. If they had it in southern Oregon, its got to be available everywhere on the planet ( that's sarcasm)...
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