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Last fall I purchased a Win 70 pushfeed XTR in 7RM as a gift to my son. (gunbroker) Very, very pleased with the gun, on arrival. The pics were very representative.
Until I cleaned the bore thoroughly and ran the bore scope. Holy crap! Crater City! Not so much alligator skin, as huge craters. I have never seen anything like it. I wish I had taken some pics.
Shaw received the Rifle Dec 3, they are shipping it back today.
I could not remove the rear Redfield style scope base. I just twisted off the Torx driver.
So Shaw removed that scope base, replaced the barrel at 26 inches, chambered it for 7mm RM, polished and reblued the barreled action.
The bill came in at less than $600.
I have 100 pieces of new brass, a couple boxes of "Midway 2'nds" 150 gr polymer tipped, boat tail w/ cannalure, H1000, H 4831, Magnum and CCI 250s available. Something should come together.
After a quick look at the new Nosler Manual, I wish I had some IMR 4831. But I have not seen that on the shelf in several years.
Maybe, in a couple weeks, I can get the stock bedded, the ammo loaded, and hand it off to the 40 year old kid. The original trigger adjusted very nicely to just under 3 lb with (I think) a perfect break with no perceptible travel.
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Did you shoot it before rebarreling?
Reason I ask, I have a 308 that is pitted from one end to the other and it will put them in an inch at one hundred.
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Nice Idaho- you should feel really good about it and know it will last him more than long enough to pass along.
You are a good Dad.
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Did you shoot it before rebarreling?
Reason I ask, I have a 308 that is pitted from one end to the other and it will put them in an inch at one hundred. I restored a terribly trashed and pitted Savage 99 in 300 Savage. I restored the rifle but the bore was rough. I thought I’d shoot it first and rebarrel it if needed…and I was sure it NEEDED it. I mounted a new Weaver 3-9x40 and went to the range. It was an absolute and total surprise but that rifle put 5 rounds into less than an inch time after time. I brought the targets to work and was showing the rifle and targets to a couple of friends and customers and they got into a bidding war over it. It was not collectible or extraordinary in any way, just a nice clean refinished 99 with an ugly bore that shot tight groups. I was offered more than I could turn down for the rifle but that was my definitive lesson in not getting too caught up in theory and instead focus on the facts. A bad looking bore does NOT mean that the rifle won’t shoot good. The modern advent of bore scopes is great for aftermarket barrel makers. Gun guys are fickle so give them more little insignificant things to fret over like the microscopic condition of a rifle bore and I’m surprised that anyone shoots anything anymore. I don’t rely on the bore scope to determine how a rifle shoots. I shoot the rifle and look at the target to judge accuracy.
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Cool gesture to your son. I’m sure he’ll be pleased.
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$600 plus the cost of the rifle. Good for you Douche Bag.
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At least It's a Shaw barrel for that price. A generous gift regardless!
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Yes, sure I am the douchebag? I still have less into it than buying a new one just like it. First time I have ever lost out on the gamble of buying used. I like the odds, I will buy used again.
You can look in the mirror and practice calling yourself douchebag. It is appropriate.
No, I did not shoot the gun, once I saw the interior of the bore. These were not typical pits. They went from groove to groove, totally obliterating the land for lengths up to 1/4 inch. The pits were deeper than the grooves. And they were intermittently present from a few inches ahead of the chamber to near the muzzle.
While the gun may have held decent initial accuracy, it would have copper fouled quickly and severely. I could not give something like that away. Hell, I would not even give it to Skunkhunter. Let alone my son!
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Yes, sure I am the douchebag? I still have less into it than buying a new one just like it. First time I have ever lost out on the gamble of buying used. I like the odds, I will buy used again.
You can look in the mirror and practice calling yourself douchebag. It is appropriate.
No, I did not shoot the gun, once I saw the interior of the bore. These were not typical pits. They went from groove to groove, totally obliterating the land for lengths up to 1/4 inch. The pits were deeper than the grooves. And they were intermittently present from a few inches ahead of the chamber to near the muzzle.
While the gun may have held decent initial accuracy, it would have copper fouled quickly and severely. I could not give something like that away. Hell, I would not even give it to Skunkhunter. Let alone my son! Your're a genius douchebag. LOL Do what you do
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Hey skank.......WTF with the attitude? 600 bucks for what he had done aint crazy. Granted a Shaw barrel isn't top shelf quality, but it's far better than a factory POS. The man wanted a decent rifle, repaired broken mount screws, supply/chamber barrel, polish and blue receiver and barrel plus shipping. He did OKAY.
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Hey skank.......WTF with the attitude? 600 bucks for what he had done aint crazy. Granted a Shaw barrel isn't top shelf quality, but it's far better than a factory POS. The man wanted a decent rifle, repaired broken mount screws, supply/chamber barrel, polish and blue receiver and barrel plus shipping. He did OKAY. Most of all it's for his son. That is being a great dad in my book. kwg
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Post up some more women u have no chance of getting too. He's a douche same as you
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Hey skank.......WTF with the attitude? 600 bucks for what he had done aint crazy. Granted a Shaw barrel isn't top shelf quality, but it's far better than a factory POS. The man wanted a decent rifle, repaired broken mount screws, supply/chamber barrel, polish and blue receiver and barrel plus shipping. He did OKAY. Most of all it's for his son. That is being a great dad in my book. kwg What ever I do for my son I'll do it, don't need any help from the fire.
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Why do you guys even respond to him. Talk about a loser...
As for I S Shaw barrel, it's a step up from factory and its new and they reblued it. Sounds like a win to me.
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Why do you guys even respond to him. Talk about a loser... 'r As for I S Shaw barrel, it's a step up from factory and its new and they reblued it. Sounds like a win to me. You're a good dude. The other three not so much.
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Did I ask for help?
Didn't think so!
Making a comment about the timliness of Shaw's service. Are you too stupid to see the dates posted?
Yes, thought so.
Hell, I will even post up a couple pics of the finished project when I get it bedded and scoped. Then you can come back and toss around a few more insults.
It is what you do.
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Do what you do Douchebag.
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Hey skank.......WTF with the attitude? 600 bucks for what he had done aint crazy. Granted a Shaw barrel isn't top shelf quality, but it's far better than a factory POS. The man wanted a decent rifle, repaired broken mount screws, supply/chamber barrel, polish and blue receiver and barrel plus shipping. He did OKAY. Post up some more women in the basememt please............I'll click, promise
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Seems to me he was complimenting Shaw on their service and turn around time. Wanted others to know about their customer service. Also seems to me he wanted to make sure his son received a nice rifle. Money was pretty far down the priority list as it should be. Thanks for the post Idaho Shooter.
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Thanks to all for the positive comments.
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