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Nope , seems like yesterday here.
I am not talking about the birch stocked budget model.
You even said yourself the blued/walnut were $600 in 2017. Neither am I. These new Ruger 336's carry a suggested retail comparable to a Model 70 featherweight or 700 BDL. I'm telling you they were always considerably cheaper than a flagship bolt gun until now.
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Nope , seems like yesterday here.
I am not talking about the birch stocked budget model.
You even said yourself the blued/walnut were $600 in 2017. Neither am I. These new Ruger 336's carry a suggested retail comparable to a Model 70 featherweight or 700 BDL. I'm telling you they were always considerably cheaper than a flagship bolt gun until now. 👍🏻
The last time that bear ate a lawyer he had the runs for 33 days!
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Ain’t very many going to pay that much for a 30-30. You’re talking about a deer rifle. Lots of rifles with better cartridges for a lot less…and I love 30-30s. In today’s world a 30-30 is a bit of a compromise already. Making it that expensive gives people lots of reasons to get something else.
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every thing is expensive they will sell no problem
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every thing is expensive they will sell no problem I agree, at least until the market is saturated. After that, who knows. The current firearms culture doesn’t seem to be headed in that direction, although Henry seems to be doing well with its even more pseudo-Marlins. They’ve cleaned those up a good bit, corrected some of the blocky lines in the stocks, added side-gates but keeping the tube gate which is convenient at times. Reportedly, they have good triggers and run smoothly. Still, they aren’t cheap either. Quality costs, even before you add in the Biden Inflation Tax.
What fresh Hell is this?
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I wonder how many will buy a Ruger instead of a Browning BLR or Miroku/Winchester 94 or a Henry side gate. Right now the Ruger is priced higher than any of those and my past experience with Browning/Miroku and Ruger favors the Japs for quality by a substantial margin.
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A Henry with a side gate is pretty much a Marlin. They aren’t as clunky as they once were either. Saw one yesterday in Wal-Mart for less than $800. That’s quite a bit less to scratch the itch to own a working man’s 30-30. If I want more than a simple working man’s lever, I’m going with a Miroku or something Italian.
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If I wanted a 30-30 it would be a Ruger if I wanted new. Not much to choose from if that is what a guy wants.
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Everything is expensive now days. Even the budget friendly Savage Axis, Ruger American are getting up there. It’s crazy how everything has gotten and the good ole days are behind us v
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I have JM Marlins and Remlins but I won't be paying these prices that Ruger gets for a new Marlin
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I wonder why Ruger doesn’t use investment castings for the Marlin. They’ve are capable of some pretty complicated castings. And that process reportedly is as strong if not stronger and less expansive than mill work, although castings still need some CNC work.
Just curious. I’m sure they have their reasons.
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I am needing to sell guns because of health and age. The world is crazy. I see many Remington 700’s for over $1,000, Marlins for more, Savage 99’s are crazy high, anything with collector value is way way high. Rifles I once thought would be fun for a while are now $2,000 or more. It has been difficult to find large primers, people must be buying lots of ammo. People are looking for protection and a place to put their money into a safe investment. I think it has to do with the frenzy of many buying whatever they can. And that has to do with political situation and the world situation. I harp about buying from the communists but it doesn’t do much good. Chevrolet and Buick cars and SUV’s in China. Our political leaders are pushing electric cars where critical components are from China. I read today the Tesla is moving to China. We’ve been shutting down oil production and buying oil from people that hate us - all for saving the environment.
I’d like to blame it all on Democrats but they’re only 95% of the problem, in my opinion.
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I bought my Marlin 336ss just 5 yes ago, the value has tripled. But it is built Rock solid.
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I bought my JM Marlins at below $500 price tag. I bought a couple Remington Marlins that I believe are better than the JM Marlins in all regards. Though I do like the waffle top 30-30 - it’s quite accurate. My Remington Marlin’s are 44 Mag and 45-70. I doubt that the Remington machinery was in bad shape. I suspect that the Remington machinery may have been different than what would be appropriate for Ruger’s investment casting. Ruglin's are a forged receiver not investment cast. But thanks for playing.
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Photo looks o.k. but I think the MSRP will choke most. $1800.00 WTF!!!
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Looks more like a Remington Marlin than a JM Marlin. Wonder what prices will be on all of the versions in a couple of years.
I prefer classic. Semper Fi I used to run with the hare. Now I'm envious of the tortoise and I do my own stunts but rarely intentionally
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Ruger Americans are I believe economical and desirable. I never owned one.
No reason to believe they won’t exploit the lever market.
Perhaps Glugers? ( Glenfield/ Rugers) are coming soon!
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Ruger Americans are I believe economical and desirable. I never owned one.
No reason to believe they won’t exploit the lever market.
Perhaps Glugers? ( Glenfield/ Rugers) are coming soon! Exploit? Too funny. They are in business to return $$$ to their shareholders. nothing more. They will price their levers where they believe supply/demand will allow. Simple really.
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That’s why I own a position in Ruger.
I agree exploit is a poor choice of words.
Perhaps explore ?
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