to me the first cop is being to forcefull what is wrong with just asking not demanding , the cops escalated it more than he did , cops got to arrogant then when he went to move he was still wrong , cops were asz whole
so now that i have read the whole post i find that the LT AZZ has been that way for years , get him off the force ,,reminds me of Idaho i think when they killed the owner of the bull that got out.. seams to me most cops dont know how to kill animals, animals do not normally stand up so you can hit center mass, .. between the eyes , between eye and ear , in the ear towards the brain,, shoot lots of cattle for slaughter that way with a 22.
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"One fact remains, there are no do overs in police work. Is what it is. If the dad would have done what he was told, when he was told, this incident would have been just a traffic violation. With a citation issued. The end. But no.... dad did not leave and wanted to argue. His son was an adult, and no parental presence was required or needed. So, again he did not follow directions and failed the roadside functional hearing comprehension test. Therefore, his immediate future was predetermined. If only he would have followed directions. No is not a dirty word, it is just a word people do not want to hear. No do overs in police work. The result is the result."
You nailed it cs2blue. It was not a violation of the Bill of Rights for this man to drive a mile down the road, and meet up with his son 10 minutes later. Some of y'all sound like Rachel Maddow.
When a person pulls up behind a leo making a traffic stop, it creates reasonable suspension for that officer to believe that person may be a threat and react accordingly.
I did not comment on the officer's performance.
The only thing worse than a liberal is a liberal that thinks they're a conservative.
When a person pulls up behind a leo making a traffic stop, it creates reasonable suspension for that officer to believe that person may be a threat and react accordingly.
I did not comment on the officer's performance.
What did the officers not want him to record? Were they wanting to turn their cameras off?
"One fact remains, there are no do overs in police work. Is what it is. If the dad would have done what he was told, when he was told, this incident would have been just a traffic violation. With a citation issued. The end. But no.... dad did not leave and wanted to argue. His son was an adult, and no parental presence was required or needed. So, again he did not follow directions and failed the roadside functional hearing comprehension test. Therefore, his immediate future was predetermined. If only he would have followed directions. No is not a dirty word, it is just a word people do not want to hear. No do overs in police work. The result is the result."
You nailed it cs2blue. It was not a violation of the Bill of Rights for this man to drive a mile down the road, and meet up with his son 10 minutes later. Some of y'all sound like Rachel Maddow.
Looks like interfering with filming is a violation.
One fact remains, there are no do overs in police work. Is what it is. If the dad would have done what he was told, when he was told, this incident would have been just a traffic violation. With a citation issued. The end. But no.... dad did not leave and wanted to argue. His son was an adult, and no parental presence was required or needed. So, again he did not follow directions and failed the roadside functional hearing comprehension test. Therefore, his immediate future was predetermined. If only he would have followed directions. No is not a dirty word, it is just a word people do not want to hear. No do overs in police work. The result is the result.
Who was the dick first, who initiated then aggravated situation, the cop or dad?
Cops are lucky that most folk ain’t willing to step across that little blue line to protect their rights but that is luckily becoming less of a deterrent.
At the memorial services the families need to see these videos of the prick cops.
It ain’t no different than in warfare, the major difference in outcomes ain’t training, its the willingness to do what you have to do.
Case in point would be the punk Uvalde untrained teen school shooter out matching a billion trained law enforcement cowards that rather put hand sanitizer on than save children.
Cops ain’t good for chit except eating donuts and writing reports
One of the big problems in our country today is so many people have both a lack of self-control and a lack of common sense. I won't get into all of the other issues discussed herein. However, why in the hell would you pull your vehicle in behind a police officer engaged in a traffic stop? Does nobody else here have a problem with this. Irrespective of all else going on, why would someone ever do that? That's just irresponsible, rude and, yes, aggressive, whether he intends it to be or not. Could all other things have been handled better? Absolutely, and by everybody involved. I'm not addressing all of those as they have been beat to death already. However, this behavior, in my opinion, is inexcusable. Pull over a 1/4 mile or so in front of your family member and just sit there and wait. Good frickin grief! I reiterate, I don't say that was an excuse for all that happened; but, it was certainly, in my mind, the catalyst for everything that happened subsequently.
Maybe Espinoza was familiar with Lt. Trujillo's unchecked and violent criminal behavior along with Las Animas SO/other parts of the system supporting that lawless behavior which caused him to fear for his son's life.