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In your case I think 'Thermal' is the winner.


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The only direct comparisons I have made were comparing vortex viper, leupold Vari X-III 3-5-10x50, and a conquest 3-9x40. Put them all on 9 power looking at a 3D deer target in the shadows/wood well after dark with just a hint of street light in the distance.
Bottom line, image was similar with all 3 scopes. My old eyes couldn’t tell much of a difference.
However, seeing the reticle was significantly different. The zeiss conquest reticle was much sharper than either the the leupold duplex or the viper “duplex”. Both the leupold and the viper melted into the darkness. It was on that day I realized, glass is good, but “seeing the reticle” is a difference maker.

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I’d line them up at dusk side by side and have your eyes tell you.
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I have #4 reticles on both zeiss conquest and meopros.

The zeiss crosshairs are thicker, while the meopro is too fine for late hunting. Glass is adequate on each, but the meopro crosshairs disappear at some point.

Now my meostar R1 8x56 illuminated dot is the titts meow, worst thing to ever happen to the deer in my area.

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Either scope the OP mentioned will work. personal preference in my opinion. If you really want to take advantage of those last few minutes of shooting light, get either scope in a lit reticle. That solves all problems those last few minutes when the big boys often show up.

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I like the illuminated reticle option as a solution to all "see to shoot" issues. Where I hunt, we have such a hog problem that one needs to be a be able to see after shooting hours for your health. I've killed a couple on my walk out after dark. As far as the discussion, both scopes are good enough for hunting past shooting time, but I think the Meopta will go a few minutes longer for what that is worth.

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I like the illuminated reticle option as a solution to all "see to shoot" issues. Where I hunt, we have such a hog problem that one needs to be a be able to see after shooting hours for your health. I've killed a couple on my walk out after dark when the hogs were on my trail. As far as the discussion, both scopes are good enough for hunting past shooting time, but I think the MeoStar will go a few minutes longer for what that is worth.

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yesterday i sighted in my new to me Winchester model 70 that i put a new Nightforce scope on that hopefully will be going to Africa next year in May. best scope out there and worth every penny too. Pete53


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Meopta for the win...

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Originally Posted by Big Stick
I've yet to see my first Zeiss or MeOpta hold zero,track or repeat...though they are chockfull of Fluff,that swoons them who don't shoot. Hint................

My 3-9 conquest bounced around in the back of a landcruiser for 14 days last year in Namibia.

Just for kicks...before I left I shot the rifle again. Shot looked like part of the original 3 shot group.

That's good enough for this do nothing couch sitter.

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Originally Posted by Ky221
Originally Posted by Big Stick
I've yet to see my first Zeiss or MeOpta hold zero,track or repeat...though they are chockfull of Fluff,that swoons them who don't shoot. Hint................

My 3-9 conquest bounced around in the back of a landcruiser for 14 days last year in Namibia.

Just for kicks...before I left I shot the rifle again. Shot looked like part of the original 3 shot group.

That's good enough for this do nothing couch sitter.

Yes that's all well and good but you didn't throw it onto a creek, did you?

Haha

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Kudos for the Sweet “Satisfactions” that are your’s,for taking a rifle on a car trip. Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!…………


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Originally Posted by Ky221
Originally Posted by Big Stick
I've yet to see my first Zeiss or MeOpta hold zero,track or repeat...though they are chockfull of Fluff,that swoons them who don't shoot. Hint................

My 3-9 conquest bounced around in the back of a landcruiser for 14 days last year in Namibia.

Just for kicks...before I left I shot the rifle again. Shot looked like part of the original 3 shot group.

That's good enough for this do nothing couch sitter.

Yes that's all well and good but you didn't throw it onto a creek, did you?

Haha

That truly is the ultimate test. 🤦‍♂️

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The Do NOTHING Gang never ceases to amaze,by simply doing their best. Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!……………


Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Fortunately for you,Imagination,Pretend and Emoji’s are free,so even YOU can”afford” to “contribute”. Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!…………..


Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Every hunting rifle needs a Made in China ‘ware’ on top.


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Every Window Licker needs something to Whine about…you “lucky” kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?

Fhuqking LAUGHING!………….


Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Sorry Ladies,today was (5) airports and an IFR Crab Walk to The Finish Line. Hint.

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At least you Crying CLUELESS Kchunts don't have to fret anything getting wet,on your Car Ride. Hint.

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A wee bit of perspective,for you Window Licking Do NOTHING Kchunts. Hint.








Bless your poor poor(literally) hearts,for trying.

I might start carving some Mail open this evening. Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!.............


Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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