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It always comes down to you being an ass hole. Saying it into the mirror will help As would keeping your mouth shut. I was being nice and simply informing the ignorant that deer hunting and venison don't have to be expensive. Nor does it have to depend on a lease.
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It always comes down to you being an ass hole. Saying it into the mirror will help As would keeping your mouth shut. I was being nice and simply informing the ignorant that deer hunting and venison don't have to be expensive. Nor does it have to depend on a lease. Oh, ok. LOL, you were just trying to help. Got it.
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2500.00 per gun. How many deer do you get to shoot per year for that and how much does that come to per pound of venison ? Don't start. It's no wonder there are so many hunters that say venison is expensive meat these days. It isn't necessarily so. If it's just about putting meat in the freezer, I could probably get by on less than $150 for three deer (if I'm keeping property taxes out it). But I spend 15-25 times that in a given year because I like seeing and hunting different parts of the country as well as spending time with friends/family I don't get to see that often. And I've yet to come up with a formula to put a cost-per-pound evaluation on friendship and experiencing new things. You right about not putting a price on fellowship and being with those you don’t see often. The camp i was in was 8 of us that grew up together. Life scattered everyone about. Deer camp was the chance to get back together. Hunt. Cook. Fellowship. Sometimes it was all night drinking, cards, throwing darts, and no hunting. 😂 If i killed a deer. Great. If i didn’t that was good also. Seeing my buddies kids getting old enough to hunt and take a deer was great also. I can kill all the deer i want ( or bag limit) on the 20 acres i own. Times spent with buddies was the best part of deer camp.
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Condolences Hanco.
I've been both a land owner and I/ve been on 5 different ranches in the last 24 years.
Believe me, I feel your pain. It isn’t the first time, May not be the last to lose a lease
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A person could buy a lot of nice steaks for what I pay to hunt, but I like watching the sun come up, waiting to see what comes out of the brush, catching pigs, enjoying the other hunters company, and getting away from the house etc
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A person could buy a lot of nice steaks for what I pay to hunt, but I like watching the sun come up, waiting to see what comes out of the brush, catching pigs, enjoying the other hunters company, and getting away from the house etc I can do all of that except for the pigs without a lease. We don't have pigs around here.
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It always comes down to you being an ass hole. Saying it into the mirror will help As would keeping your mouth shut. I was being nice and simply informing the ignorant that deer hunting and venison don't have to be expensive. Nor does it have to depend on a lease. Oh, ok. LOL, you were just trying to help. Got it. And you were trying to stir up trouble as usual.
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A person could buy a lot of nice steaks for what I pay to hunt, but I like watching the sun come up, waiting to see what comes out of the brush, catching pigs, enjoying the other hunters company, and getting away from the house etc There's always another place and it just might be nicer than the last one.
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A person could buy a lot of nice steaks for what I pay to hunt, but I like watching the sun come up, waiting to see what comes out of the brush, catching pigs, enjoying the other hunters company, and getting away from the house etc I can do all of that except for the pigs without a lease. We don't have pigs around here. Our state is mostly private land. You aren’t missing a thing, cause you have no pigs!!
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A person could buy a lot of nice steaks for what I pay to hunt, but I like watching the sun come up, waiting to see what comes out of the brush, catching pigs, enjoying the other hunters company, and getting away from the house etc There's always another place and it just might be nicer than the last one. That is correct
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There’s benefits to TX over Ny. Hanco can walk into any store and walk out with any handgun he feels like or even a semi auto 22 rifle these days, no wait, no restrictions on our liberties.
Us as NY’ers suffer fools and BS to have some nice public land.
It’s all about trade offs.
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2500.00 per gun. How many deer do you get to shoot per year for that and how much does that come to per pound of venison ? Don't start. It's no wonder there are so many hunters that say venison is expensive meat these days. It isn't necessarily so. If it's just about putting meat in the freezer, I could probably get by on less than $150 for three deer (if I'm keeping property taxes out it). But I spend 15-25 times that in a given year because I like seeing and hunting different parts of the country as well as spending time with friends/family I don't get to see that often. And I've yet to come up with a formula to put a cost-per-pound evaluation on friendship and experiencing new things. There is no price per pound there. Just like finishing hiking out the final elk quarter. I’d never wanna put pen to paper what that elk meat cost in fuel and money, but damned is it a helluva good time.
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Sorry to hear that hanco, hope you find another, better place soon.
The cheap deer meat comments were about as predictable as they were irrelevant.
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A person could buy a lot of nice steaks for what I pay to hunt, but I like watching the sun come up, waiting to see what comes out of the brush, catching pigs, enjoying the other hunters company, and getting away from the house etc There's always another place and it just might be nicer than the last one. That is correct Not trying to be "debbie downer", but...... I don't know these days if the lease I'm on could be replaced. Too many memories. $2K per year lease fee. I can hunt Dove, Quail, Turkey, rabbits, squirrel, Deer, Hogs, Aoudad sheep, an occasional exotic (Sika, Axis) and varmints. Been there since 2004 with the same core group of guys. 1,700 acres (more like 3K acres if you flattened it out) out of a 60,000 acre low fence ranch in the Texas hill country. Limited cell service, no power, bring in my water. Have a camper and generator. Sleep better there than I do at home. Camp is in a box canyon six miles in from a paved road. Can go there anytime I please. Usually do not see anyone other than a buddy that may accompany me the whole time I'm there. We make our own rules. Have seen the lease manager twice in 17 years. Since July of 2018, IIRC, I've killed 12 deer on that and other leases. In that same period, a bud and I have taken over 500 hoglets. I can hunt deer October (archery), November, and December during "shooting light" I can go after hogs 24/7/365. It is my passion. I'd rather trap, snare and shoot hogs than just about anything and am fortunate enough to do so at least monthly. Some of the best tasting bullet test media I've encountered. If I never shot another deer, I don't think that would bother me. ya! GWB
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A person could buy a lot of nice steaks for what I pay to hunt, but I like watching the sun come up, waiting to see what comes out of the brush, catching pigs, enjoying the other hunters company, and getting away from the house etc There's always another place and it just might be nicer than the last one. That is correct Not trying to be "debbie downer", but...... I don't know these days if the lease I'm on could be replaced. Too many memories. $2K per year lease fee. I can hunt Dove, Quail, Turkey, rabbits, squirrel, Deer, Hogs, Aoudad sheep, an occasional exotic (Sika, Axis) and varmints. Been there since 2004 with the same core group of guys. 1,700 acres (more like 3K acres if you flattened it out) out of a 60,000 acre low fence ranch in the Texas hill country. Limited cell service, no power, bring in my water. Have a camper and generator. Sleep better there than I do at home. Camp is in a box canyon six miles in from a paved road. Can go there anytime I please. Usually do not see anyone other than a buddy that may accompany me the whole time I'm there. We make our own rules. Have seen the lease manager twice in 17 years. Since July of 2018, IIRC, I've killed 12 deer on that and other leases. In that same period, a bud and I have taken over 500 hoglets. I can hunt deer October (archery), November, and December during "shooting light" I can go after hogs 24/7/365. It is my passion. I'd rather trap, snare and shoot hogs than just about anything and am fortunate enough to do so at least monthly. Some of the best tasting bullet test media I've encountered. If I never shot another deer, I don't think that would bother me. ya! GWB Haven’t killed 500, but have killed a good many
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Does wild pig taste like domestic/farm raised ?
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Does wild pig taste like domestic/farm raised ? No, but given the right hog and good field care it’s good.
Will Munny: It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have.
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There’s benefits to TX over Ny. Hanco can walk into any store and walk out with any handgun he feels like or even a semi auto 22 rifle these days, no wait, no restrictions on our liberties.
Us as NY’ers suffer fools and BS to have some nice public land.
It’s all about trade offs. If we could get rid of a few million communists/liberals it would be nice for sure. Even so I'm thankful we have lots of public land. I like to roam/hunt new and unfamiliar ground. It would suck being tethered to the same piece of ground in the same old stands all the time.
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Does wild pig taste like domestic/farm raised ? No, but given the right hog and good field care it’s good. I sometimes wish we had some here.
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Does wild pig taste like domestic/farm raised ? No, but given the right hog and good field care it’s good. I sometimes wish we had some here. Careful what you wish for… Around here theres two types of places… Land with hogs and land THAT WILL HAVE hogs…
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