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Got a new Winchester Mod 70 6.5 Cm super grade end of year. Couldn't resist it. But trigger too heavy. Went to adjust, but it had some kind of hard goop around the adjusting screw. Never have seen this,, a lawyer thing? Ordered a Timney.

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Is it a MOA trigger or the old style?

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Just a dab of glue or sealant to prevent unwanted movement. Clean it off enough to get to the screw and rock on. I think they do it to prove it was adjusted after factory to protect them in case something goes bad.

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Not a gunsmith here, but I've been thru this exact exercise. Got the Timmy - it has a FLAT trigger shoe. Other Timney's I have (M700 and M77) do not have this abhorrent feature. Not what I want on a hunting rifle. Went back to the MOA trigger. Mine breaks under 3# - it's just not very crisp.

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Not sure what the MOA looks like, nothing in the literature mentions it. The sealant is very hard.

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Originally Posted by Creekside0423
Not sure what the MOA looks like, nothing in the literature mentions it. The sealant is very hard.

I understand that finding a picture of said trigger in the day and age of the Internet is pretty complicated. smirk


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Is it a MOA trigger or the old style?

OP said is was a new Win M70 - they don't put the old style on new guns.

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My BACO M70 had that sealant on the trigger, a few minutes with a small pick and problem solved.
Adjusted it to where I wanted. Went hunting.

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An aftermarket spring can make change an "okay" MOA trigger into an excellent trigger.


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If you must keep the MOA trigger, Ernie has a cheap spring that seems to work. http://erniethegunsmith.com/catalog/i170.html


Otherwise replace it with a Timney. The flat triggers have grown on me.


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Originally Posted by Creekside0423
Got a new Winchester Mod 70 6.5 Cm super grade end of year. Couldn't resist it. But trigger too heavy. Went to adjust, but it had some kind of hard goop around the adjusting screw. Never have seen this,, a lawyer thing? Ordered a Timney.


I guess if you can't figure out how to remove a little dab of glue and loosen the screw, the Timney was made for you? It's a total lateral move though. All the MOA trigger needs is a spring from erniethegunsmith. Are you going to take it to a smith so he can replace the trigger for you. It may be a mechanical challenge...


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Originally Posted by Creekside0423
Got a new Winchester Mod 70 6.5 Cm super grade end of year. Couldn't resist it. But trigger too heavy. Went to adjust, but it had some kind of hard goop around the adjusting screw. Never have seen this,, a lawyer thing? Ordered a Timney.

Tale a very tiny hex wrench (allen), heat the tip, stick it in the glue, back out the screw. The heat will remove the glue and you can then use the screw for what it's meant for. I've done several of them that way. Timney has the X-Bolt trigger shoe...not to my taste but YMMV. One thing about the Ernie spring: you still might not get down below 3 lbs. If you're looking for lighter than what Erne gives you, or if you want to try to use the existing spring before buying the Ernie, just remove one-half coil from the spring, put it back in and try it. If it's still not light enough, take off take off another half coil. You should be done. If removing the coil makes it too light, then just use the screw to increase the pull weight. It's a pretty easy fix. All mine sit right at 2.5 lbs., and I can take them below 2 lbs just by adjusting the screw.


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Nice looking rifles, by the way. Congratulations.


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Thanks for all. Ordered Ernies spring. After breaking off goop, trigger adjusted nicely. Appreciate all the inputs.

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Yes, I like the trigger pull on the lighter side, maybe 2.5. Returned the Timney.

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Have put Timneys and Triggertechs on. Trigger jobs on several revolvers. I'm certainly a novice, but I do all my work. This site is great for all you experts to provide us with guidance and understanding.

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Put In Ernies spring. Now it's very good at about 2#, just where I like it.
Thanks all for the advice.

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If you remove the Locktite or whatever, be sure to put a weather proof Locktite back on the screw.
One reason may be so that the manufacture can prove its been adjusted. I believe the main reason is so that the screw is keep from moving.
If it moves, you could have a rifle that fires when you don’t want or expect it.

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