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Originally Posted by Valsdad
Except, when all is said and done, there will likely be no need for a lease of a ROW or any other access on the majority of corner crossings in the West.

Correct, as per your usual.

It’ll save a lot of taxpayer money in the end.
That money will just be wasted elsewhere I am sure, but that is a different discussion.



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Originally Posted by T_Inman
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Except, when all is said and done, there will likely be no need for a lease of a ROW or any other access on the majority of corner crossings in the West.

Correct, as per your usual.

It’ll save a lot of taxpayer money in the end.
That money will just be wasted elsewhere I am sure, but that is a different discussion.

Oh boy, don't fellas like you and me know that!


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Originally Posted by BuzzH
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Buzz reminds me of the smart mouth kid in school that picked his nose and everybody threw rocks at🤣🤣🤣
You remind me of the kids I sent home with busted noses, fat lips, and loose teeth when they got smart.
If I went to school with you I’d stuff your midget ass in a trash can and roll it down a hill 😉

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Originally Posted by earlybrd
Originally Posted by BuzzH
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Buzz reminds me of the smart mouth kid in school that picked his nose and everybody threw rocks at🤣🤣🤣
You remind me of the kids I sent home with busted noses, fat lips, and loose teeth when they got smart.
If I went to school with you I’d stuff your midget ass in a trash can and roll it down a hill 😉

I'm sure you felt pretty tough when you were in 3rd grade and celebrated your 16th birthday.

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Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Originally Posted by Hastings
The personal attacks are a bit out of place maybe? I was enjoying the discussion about the right of passage issue. Not knowing anything about the Buzz person or the BHA I was very pleased to see the courts come down on the side of the little man, the everyday citizen trying to access his property that is his by right of being a U.S. citizen.

I am fortunate to own enough property to satisfy my needs but a lot of folks aren't and as I have stated earlier I spent a 30 year career dealing with wealthy men that wanted the state to keep the "riff raff" far away from their property.

I'm wondering what the big deal is with Buzz and what difference does it make about the .243W vs. the 6mm Rem?
I think it stems from BuzzyTard being affiliated with gun grabbers.
Oh,

Hastings, don't believe Tommybot/Fibka...here is BHA's official position statement on the second:

North American Policy Statement:

Backcountry Hunters & Anglers proudly supports the individual right to keep and bear arms as
guaranteed by the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution.

https://assets.nationbuilder.com/ba...mendment_Policy_Statement.pdf?1579635386

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Originally Posted by T_Inman
Have you found those who use your road throw trash out, go Mach III or otherwise somehow cause havoc?

I am all for respecting private property rights as well as programs or legislation providing reasonable access through private to public, but it seems people always find a way to ruin it.
The bad ones are the ones who don't ask permission at all. Very little trouble from those who call and ask.

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Originally Posted by BuzzH
Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Originally Posted by Hastings
The personal attacks are a bit out of place maybe? I was enjoying the discussion about the right of passage issue. Not knowing anything about the Buzz person or the BHA I was very pleased to see the courts come down on the side of the little man, the everyday citizen trying to access his property that is his by right of being a U.S. citizen.

I am fortunate to own enough property to satisfy my needs but a lot of folks aren't and as I have stated earlier I spent a 30 year career dealing with wealthy men that wanted the state to keep the "riff raff" far away from their property.

I'm wondering what the big deal is with Buzz and what difference does it make about the .243W vs. the 6mm Rem?
I think it stems from BuzzyTard being affiliated with gun grabbers.
Oh,

Hastings, don't believe Tommybot/Fibka...here is BHA's official position statement on the second:

North American Policy Statement:

Backcountry Hunters & Anglers proudly supports the individual right to keep and bear arms as
guaranteed by the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution.

https://assets.nationbuilder.com/ba...mendment_Policy_Statement.pdf?1579635386

Does that include ARs?
I am not being a smart ass. I am genuinely curious.

Lots of people and organizations ‘support’ the 2nd Amendment but have varied interpretations as to what arms the 2nd applies to and ‘assault’ rifles are front and center.

Heck, there are a few ‘staunch’ 2nd supporters here on the ‘Fire that feel restricting full auto weapons is perfectly acceptable and that the 2nd doesn’t apply.



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Originally Posted by T_Inman
Originally Posted by BuzzH
Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Originally Posted by Hastings
The personal attacks are a bit out of place maybe? I was enjoying the discussion about the right of passage issue. Not knowing anything about the Buzz person or the BHA I was very pleased to see the courts come down on the side of the little man, the everyday citizen trying to access his property that is his by right of being a U.S. citizen.

I am fortunate to own enough property to satisfy my needs but a lot of folks aren't and as I have stated earlier I spent a 30 year career dealing with wealthy men that wanted the state to keep the "riff raff" far away from their property.

I'm wondering what the big deal is with Buzz and what difference does it make about the .243W vs. the 6mm Rem?
I think it stems from BuzzyTard being affiliated with gun grabbers.
Oh,

Hastings, don't believe Tommybot/Fibka...here is BHA's official position statement on the second:

North American Policy Statement:

Backcountry Hunters & Anglers proudly supports the individual right to keep and bear arms as
guaranteed by the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution.

https://assets.nationbuilder.com/ba...mendment_Policy_Statement.pdf?1579635386

Does that include ARs?
I am not being a smart ass. I am genuinely curious.

Lots of people and organizations ‘support’ the 2nd Amendment but have varied interpretations as to what arms the 2nd applies to and ‘assault’ rifles are front and center.

Heck, there are a few ‘staunch’ 2nd supporters here on the ‘Fire that feel restricting full auto weapons is perfectly acceptable and that the 2nd doesn’t apply.

Correct. Even Biden says he supports the 2nd amendment. No one should give anything to BHA.

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Originally Posted by T_Inman
Originally Posted by BuzzH
Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Originally Posted by Hastings
The personal attacks are a bit out of place maybe? I was enjoying the discussion about the right of passage issue. Not knowing anything about the Buzz person or the BHA I was very pleased to see the courts come down on the side of the little man, the everyday citizen trying to access his property that is his by right of being a U.S. citizen.

I am fortunate to own enough property to satisfy my needs but a lot of folks aren't and as I have stated earlier I spent a 30 year career dealing with wealthy men that wanted the state to keep the "riff raff" far away from their property.

I'm wondering what the big deal is with Buzz and what difference does it make about the .243W vs. the 6mm Rem?
I think it stems from BuzzyTard being affiliated with gun grabbers.
Oh,

Hastings, don't believe Tommybot/Fibka...here is BHA's official position statement on the second:

North American Policy Statement:

Backcountry Hunters & Anglers proudly supports the individual right to keep and bear arms as
guaranteed by the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution.

https://assets.nationbuilder.com/ba...mendment_Policy_Statement.pdf?1579635386

Does that include ARs?
I am not being a smart ass. I am genuinely curious.

Lots of people and organizations ‘support’ the 2nd Amendment but have varied interpretations as to what arms the 2nd applies to and ‘assault’ rifles are front and center.

Heck, there are a few ‘staunch’ 2nd supporters here on the ‘Fire that feel restricting full auto weapons is perfectly acceptable and that the 2nd doesn’t apply.

Yes Buzz, which firearms do BHA support the keeping and bearing of?

for those not wishing to click on the link:

Quote
2014 NORTH AMERICAN POLICY STATEMENT:
SECOND AMENDMENT SUPPORT
Purpose: The intent of policy statements are to provide a formal mechanism for Backcountry
Hunters & Anglers to engage in specific conservation issues while establishing clear policy
direction that not only defines the parameters of our position statements but the relevance to
our mission. As declarations of policy, statements do not direct specific actions, establish policy
priorities or allocate BHA resources.
Sponsored by: North American Board of Directors
North American Board Action: Adopted on March 20, 2014
North American Policy Statement:
Backcountry Hunters & Anglers proudly supports the individual right to keep and bear arms as
guaranteed by the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution.

That's it, in its entirety. And, it's 9 years old now, and given some recent events and court cases, it would be nice to know EXACLTY where they stand. In other words, what is BHA's interpretation of the Law?

Or, do they go along with whatever way the wind blows on the subject?

Do they support a California version of the right to keep and bear arms?

Or a Texas, Vermont, AZ, etc interpretation?


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Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Originally Posted by Hastings
The personal attacks are a bit out of place maybe? I was enjoying the discussion about the right of passage issue. Not knowing anything about the Buzz person or the BHA I was very pleased to see the courts come down on the side of the little man, the everyday citizen trying to access his property that is his by right of being a U.S. citizen.

I am fortunate to own enough property to satisfy my needs but a lot of folks aren't and as I have stated earlier I spent a 30 year career dealing with wealthy men that wanted the state to keep the "riff raff" far away from their property.

I'm wondering what the big deal is with Buzz and what difference does it make about the .243W vs. the 6mm Rem?
I think it stems from BuzzyTard being affiliated with gun grabbers.
Oh,
Ask buzzy about his views on Rush Limbaugh

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Originally Posted by T_Inman
Originally Posted by BuzzH
Hastings, don't believe Tommybot/Fibka...here is BHA's official position statement on the second:

North American Policy Statement:

Backcountry Hunters & Anglers proudly supports the individual right to keep and bear arms as
guaranteed by the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution.

https://assets.nationbuilder.com/ba...mendment_Policy_Statement.pdf?1579635386

Does that include ARs?
I am not being a smart ass. I am genuinely curious.

Lots of people and organizations ‘support’ the 2nd Amendment but have varied interpretations as to what arms the 2nd applies to and ‘assault’ rifles are front and center.

Heck, there are a few ‘staunch’ 2nd supporters here on the ‘Fire that feel restricting full auto weapons is perfectly acceptable and that the 2nd doesn’t apply.

It will be a miracle if you get a direct answer to that question. He has never answered it directly in the past, as far as I have seen. His non-answer is an actual answer.

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If any of you ever wondered whether the "mouth breather" ailment is genetic...

LMFAO


Originally Posted by BuzzH
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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Originally Posted by T_Inman
Originally Posted by BuzzH
Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Originally Posted by Hastings
The personal attacks are a bit out of place maybe? I was enjoying the discussion about the right of passage issue. Not knowing anything about the Buzz person or the BHA I was very pleased to see the courts come down on the side of the little man, the everyday citizen trying to access his property that is his by right of being a U.S. citizen.

I am fortunate to own enough property to satisfy my needs but a lot of folks aren't and as I have stated earlier I spent a 30 year career dealing with wealthy men that wanted the state to keep the "riff raff" far away from their property.

I'm wondering what the big deal is with Buzz and what difference does it make about the .243W vs. the 6mm Rem?
I think it stems from BuzzyTard being affiliated with gun grabbers.
Oh,

Hastings, don't believe Tommybot/Fibka...here is BHA's official position statement on the second:

North American Policy Statement:

Backcountry Hunters & Anglers proudly supports the individual right to keep and bear arms as
guaranteed by the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution.

https://assets.nationbuilder.com/ba...mendment_Policy_Statement.pdf?1579635386

Does that include ARs?
I am not being a smart ass. I am genuinely curious.

Lots of people and organizations ‘support’ the 2nd Amendment but have varied interpretations as to what arms the 2nd applies to and ‘assault’ rifles are front and center.

Heck, there are a few ‘staunch’ 2nd supporters here on the ‘Fire that feel restricting full auto weapons is perfectly acceptable and that the 2nd doesn’t apply.

The second is very clear, it's not complicated. What part of shall not be infringed is unclear?

FFS, one of the life member items was a 1911 .45 acp.

So, the answer is yes, if only obviously.

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Originally Posted by BuzzH
Originally Posted by earlybrd
Originally Posted by BuzzH
Originally Posted by earlybrd
Buzz reminds me of the smart mouth kid in school that picked his nose and everybody threw rocks at🤣🤣🤣
You remind me of the kids I sent home with busted noses, fat lips, and loose teeth when they got smart.
If I went to school with you I’d stuff your midget ass in a trash can and roll it down a hill 😉

I'm sure you felt pretty tough when you were in 3rd grade and celebrated your 16th birthday.
Dumb fugk response Tuffie

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Originally Posted by BuzzH
FFS, one of the life member items was a 1911 .45 acp.

Oh, well gee-whizz and golly-shucks then.


LOL


Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Originally Posted by BuzzH
Originally Posted by T_Inman
Originally Posted by BuzzH
Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Originally Posted by Hastings
The personal attacks are a bit out of place maybe? I was enjoying the discussion about the right of passage issue. Not knowing anything about the Buzz person or the BHA I was very pleased to see the courts come down on the side of the little man, the everyday citizen trying to access his property that is his by right of being a U.S. citizen.

I am fortunate to own enough property to satisfy my needs but a lot of folks aren't and as I have stated earlier I spent a 30 year career dealing with wealthy men that wanted the state to keep the "riff raff" far away from their property.

I'm wondering what the big deal is with Buzz and what difference does it make about the .243W vs. the 6mm Rem?
I think it stems from BuzzyTard being affiliated with gun grabbers.
Oh,

Hastings, don't believe Tommybot/Fibka...here is BHA's official position statement on the second:

North American Policy Statement:

Backcountry Hunters & Anglers proudly supports the individual right to keep and bear arms as
guaranteed by the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution.

https://assets.nationbuilder.com/ba...mendment_Policy_Statement.pdf?1579635386

Does that include ARs?
I am not being a smart ass. I am genuinely curious.

Lots of people and organizations ‘support’ the 2nd Amendment but have varied interpretations as to what arms the 2nd applies to and ‘assault’ rifles are front and center.

Heck, there are a few ‘staunch’ 2nd supporters here on the ‘Fire that feel restricting full auto weapons is perfectly acceptable and that the 2nd doesn’t apply.

The second is very clear, it's not complicated. What part of shall not be infringed is unclear?

FFS, one of the life member items was a 1911 .45 acp.

So, the answer is yes, if only obviously.
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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by BuzzH
FFS, one of the life member items was a 1911 .45 acp.

Oh, well gee-whizz and golly-shucks then.


LOL

We absolutely support the right to own a full-size pistol with a 7 round magazine


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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
We absolutely support the right to own a full-size pistol with a 7 round magazine

That's gonna sit in a box.

For eternity.

LOL


Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
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Originally Posted by BuzzH
Originally Posted by T_Inman
Originally Posted by BuzzH
Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Originally Posted by Hastings
The personal attacks are a bit out of place maybe? I was enjoying the discussion about the right of passage issue. Not knowing anything about the Buzz person or the BHA I was very pleased to see the courts come down on the side of the little man, the everyday citizen trying to access his property that is his by right of being a U.S. citizen.

I am fortunate to own enough property to satisfy my needs but a lot of folks aren't and as I have stated earlier I spent a 30 year career dealing with wealthy men that wanted the state to keep the "riff raff" far away from their property.

I'm wondering what the big deal is with Buzz and what difference does it make about the .243W vs. the 6mm Rem?
I think it stems from BuzzyTard being affiliated with gun grabbers.
Oh,

Hastings, don't believe Tommybot/Fibka...here is BHA's official position statement on the second:

North American Policy Statement:

Backcountry Hunters & Anglers proudly supports the individual right to keep and bear arms as
guaranteed by the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution.

https://assets.nationbuilder.com/ba...mendment_Policy_Statement.pdf?1579635386

Does that include ARs?
I am not being a smart ass. I am genuinely curious.

Lots of people and organizations ‘support’ the 2nd Amendment but have varied interpretations as to what arms the 2nd applies to and ‘assault’ rifles are front and center.

Heck, there are a few ‘staunch’ 2nd supporters here on the ‘Fire that feel restricting full auto weapons is perfectly acceptable and that the 2nd doesn’t apply.

The second is very clear, it's not complicated. What part of shall not be infringed is unclear?

FFS, one of the life member items was a 1911 .45 acp.

So, the answer is yes, if only obviously.

To avoid getting further off into the weeds and off topic here, I'm going to start a new thread Buzz.

I certainly hope you reply.

It may alleviate some concerns by members here.


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In it is contentment
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Originally Posted by Valsdad
To avoid getting further off into the weeds and off topic here, I'm going to start a new thread Buzz.

I certainly hope you reply.

It may alleviate some concerns by members here.

You ever heard the Biblical reference to hot, cold, or lukewarm?

Stop being such a fugkin' pussy.


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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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