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Originally Posted by Greyghost
Whether he did or didn't, the GOP will tear itself apart just trying to figure out what to do...

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You just can’t resist even though not one person here respects your opinion. Go away.

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Originally Posted by Greyghost
Whether he did or didn't, the GOP will tear itself apart just trying to figure out what to do...

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You should probably concentrate more on trying to figure out your cable bill.

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Chip Roy likely signed his death warrant for re-election when he indorsed DeSanatary for president. As for the much-discussed cliff; we jumped off that years ago. Biden just tied anvils to our legs so to speak. Delaying the death of our monetary system won't do any good. It's already been destroyed. Might as well get it over with because they don't have the fortitude to fight to revive it.

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Looks like there will be no debt ceiling for the next several months. Then they're supposed to reimpose it at some negotiated level. Which means it will never be put in place again.


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Originally Posted by Greyghost
Whether he did or didn't, the GOP will tear itself apart just trying to figure out what to do...

Phil
Fact check: Mostly correct. There's still a few republicans that care about the country's future. The Rinos and the commies are united in the destruction of the country for a quick buck.


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If you work 40 hrs/wk: at 5% inflation and after 5 years, you need a 28% pay raise or to work 44 more hours (*one full extra week* per month+) to make up the difference.

This is inflation
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Originally Posted by Seafire
This nation is so close to the edge of the cliff, I for one am glad I'm a Senior Citizen. But I certainly feel for my children and those I'll leave behind, with what future this nation will be... it certainly isn't the nation all of us were born in anymore..
You got THAT right...and I agree with you re: being a senior citizen..


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Originally Posted by Greyghost
Whether he did or didn't, the GOP will tear itself apart just trying to figure out what to do...

Phil
Kinda like your kghunt, Phil. Now GFY


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Yep, that's why the trump clan was allowed to raise the debt so much and was quickly allowed to raise the debt ceiling 3 times... Sure, funny how that works!


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Originally Posted by Greyghost
Yep, that's why the trump clan was allowed to raise the debt so much and was quickly allowed to raise the debt ceiling 3 times... Sure, funny how that works!


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Phil, must be nice to always know you are right. Again, try the Huffington Post, they will agree with you.

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Originally Posted by steve4102
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He cant bite off more than he can chew, and there is no way to just balance the budget in one year. No one would go for it, not even the people, cause if they did balance it in one day it would shock the markets and millions would protest. The left knows it and uses it to their advantage .
Who said anything about a balance budget, this is about the debt ceiling.

It has a lot to do with balancing the budget. If you can't balance the budget, you need to stop raising the debt ceiling first. The long goal is a balanced budget . Likely wont happen however.


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Originally Posted by Stormin_Norman
Just theater, was there ever any doubt the GOP would cave?


Nope.


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I like the Work Rule for Food Stamps was raised to 54 years
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Oh and the 4 Trillion Spending Ceiling over Two Years ..

Two Years that’s Nice ..

It should be obvious why they need 8k New IRS Agents..

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If all people living in this country had to pay every year for the money spent by their elected officials it only take one election cycle to completely change how they vote. Right now its easy to vote for all this spending because the voter doesn't feel the pain in their wallet.
Their government just puts it on their credit card. When thats maxed out they just increase the limit. If everyone had skin in the game it would be a whole different ball game.


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qbama era added $9 trillion to national debt.


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Originally Posted by MontanaMan
... Most likely, just more Kabuki theater to appease the peons. ...

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Nailed it...



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as mentioned, all this was just theater to fool the masses. There were no 'negotiations'


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Originally Posted by Boarmaster123
If all people living in this country had to pay every year for the money spent by their elected officials it only take one election cycle to completely change how they vote. Right now its easy to vote for all this spending because the voter doesn't feel the pain in their wallet.
Their government just puts it on their credit card. When thats maxed out they just increase the limit. If everyone had skin in the game it would be a whole different ball game.
Pretty much hit the nail on the head. Growing up I was told, you can't get blood out of a turnip.


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As of Sunday morning, McKevin says it’s still not in written form. Most everything so far is speculation.


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Originally Posted by MontanaMan
Most likely, just more Kabuki theater to appease the peons.

McCarthy’s debt-ceiling deal with Biden comes up short on his vow to rein in IRS

Kevin McCarthy trumpeted a debt-ceiling deal Sunday, but increasing debt another $4 trillion with minimal concessions is nothing to boast about.

To be fair, the House speaker has a razor slim majority and Republicans don’t control the Senate, where Minority Leader Mitch McConnell and his sidekick Lindsey Graham have announced that the only thing they care about is Ukraine.

But McCarthy’s one dealbreaker should have been his promise to defund President Biden’s massive $80 billion to turbocharge an already weaponized IRS.

This was the totemic centerpiece of his pitch to become speaker.

It was the most memorable promise of the Republicans’ midterm campaign to win back the House.

It struck a chord with voters, wary of funding a new “army” of armed IRS agents to harass middle-class families and small business owners and abuse their powers to target political dissidents, Soviet-style.

“Our very first bill will repeal the funding for 87,000 new IRS agents,” McCarthy vowed.

“You see, we believe government should be to help you, not go after you.”

Sure enough, the House voted 221-210 to repeal the extra IRS funding.

In the debt-ceiling deal outlined Sunday and due to be inked later this week, McCarthy has allowed the lion’s share of that extra IRS funding to remain unmolested: preserving $78.1 billion of the $80 billion.

As rebel GOP Rep Dan Bishop put it: “So there will be 85,260 more IRS agents rather than 87,000 to eat you alive. Big win.”

You don’t mount a powerful six-month fear campaign about 87,000 new, armed IRS agents ready to break down people’s doors, and then meekly capitulate at the first sign of resistance.

Even if those fears were exaggerated, your credibility rests on delivering a lot more than 2% of what you promised.

In any case the fears about a weaponized IRS targeting Biden’s opponents are very real.

More here:

https://nypost.com/2023/05/28/mccar...n-comes-up-short-on-vow-to-reign-in-irs/

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