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Grass Roots baby, Grass Roots, we need to start at the local level and elect Grass Roots politicians that put America first. No more career politicians born and raised into the system, groomed by Ivy League institutions, has been the battle cry here on The Fire for years.

What's wrong with Ivy League institutions? You've got to be smart to get into one. You weren't smart enough to get into one?

Jealousy will get you nowhere.

And BTW Donald Trump is a graduate of an Ivy League Institution.
Explain how Obama got into Columbia?

Now that sarcasm I got, good one.


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Originally Posted by steve4102
Grass Roots baby, Grass Roots, we need to start at the local level and elect Grass Roots politicians that put America first. No more career politicians born and raised into the system, groomed by Ivy League institutions, has been the battle cry here on The Fire for years.


Yet here we are now, singing the praises of Ron DeSantis a candidate that represents everything The Fire has been bitching about for years.

You seem to want to make Yuge generalizations of everything Steve.

I'm pretty certain that you know I am and always have been DJT first.

I only stated that there are much worse candidates declared than DeSantis.
I'll give you my first three in order of preference so we're clear:

1. DJT

2/3. DeSantis/Ramaswamy for a tie


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Originally Posted by Raeford
Originally Posted by steve4102
Grass Roots baby, Grass Roots, we need to start at the local level and elect Grass Roots politicians that put America first. No more career politicians born and raised into the system, groomed by Ivy League institutions, has been the battle cry here on The Fire for years.


Yet here we are now, singing the praises of Ron DeSantis a candidate that represents everything The Fire has been bitching about for years.

You seem to want to make Yuge generalizations of everything Steve.

I'm pretty certain that you know I am and always have been DJT first.

I only stated that there are much worse candidates declared than DeSantis.
I'll give you my first three in order of preference so we're clear:

1. DJT

2/3. DeSantis/Ramaswamy for a tie

What made you think the post you quoted was directed at you?


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Originally Posted by steve4102
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Grass Roots baby, Grass Roots, we need to start at the local level and elect Grass Roots politicians that put America first. No more career politicians born and raised into the system, groomed by Ivy League institutions, has been the battle cry here on The Fire for years.


Yet here we are now, singing the praises of Ron DeSantis a candidate that represents everything The Fire has been bitching about for years.

You seem to want to make Yuge generalizations of everything Steve.

I'm pretty certain that you know I am and always have been DJT first.

I only stated that there are much worse candidates declared than DeSantis.
I'll give you my first three in order of preference so we're clear:

1. DJT

2/3. DeSantis/Ramaswamy for a tie

What made you think the post you quoted was directed at you?

It was just your last post[and I latched onto it].
I agree[and have been saying it for years BTW] that IT ALL STARTS IN OUR HOMETOWNS!
For instance: my state delegate is Marie March, she is in her 1st term and pisses off[and scares the sh** out of] RINO's/Leftists daily much like MTG does.
It was a grass roots/organic deal getting her to run and then over the top.


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I know Ron DeSanctimonious is Trumps favorite nickname for Desantis but for some reason I like Meatball Ron much better.


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Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by Raeford
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by Raeford
There's worse options than DeSantis, much worse.
Within the Republican offerings, or outside the current field?

Yes and or yes.
Is there a measurable difference between Haley and DeSantis?

How bout DeSantis vs Asa?

I know nothing about Asa. I’d guess Asa will be one of the first ones out. He’s no spring chicken and not all that well know. From what I understand some state laws allow politicians to retain a percentage of left over campaign funds. Might not win but may get some coin out of the deal. Also may get visibility for appointed positions. Then the book deals and speaking etc. it’s not always about I think I can win.

I don’t know much about Haley, I see here on TV some. Something about her rings Rhino to me but just my take.

My wife has a niece with a degree in political science, works for a conservative think tank/RNC or something like that. She is ultra conservative, big Trump supporter. Interned at congress and maybe Whitehouse too. She is in the know. She told my wife as much as people want Trump back in office it’s not going to happen. The moderate republicans and independents just flat don’t like him. If I recall what she told my wife was something like, if Trump gets the nomination, we’ll have another Democrat president. To some extent I’d have to agree with what she said. With that said, it’s was a few months back and polls show Trump in a better position. If polls can be believed. Nothing stays the same. I’d have never guessed in a hundred years Trump would have won over Hillary but he did.

If you look at a guy like DeSantis, he seems tough but doesn’t come across offensive. Not being offensive is important to younger conservative voters. We live in a different time no doubt. I don’t like Trumps personality one bit, but he’s been the best president in my lifetime. Same for Ted Cruz, people may not like him but he is one smart cookie. I spoke with him one time face to face and it didn’t take long to realize Ted Cruz didn’t fall of a turnip truck. I think Ted Cruz would make a great President. People need to vote for who can do the best job, not win a popularity contest.

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Originally Posted by GringoCazador
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Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by Raeford
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by Raeford
There's worse options than DeSantis, much worse.
Within the Republican offerings, or outside the current field?

Yes and or yes.
Is there a measurable difference between Haley and DeSantis?

How bout DeSantis vs Asa?

I know nothing about Asa. I’d guess Asa will be one of the first ones out. He’s no spring chicken and not all that well know. From what I understand some state laws allow politicians to retain a percentage of left over campaign funds. Might not win but may get some coin out of the deal. Also may get visibility for appointed positions. Then the book deals and speaking etc. it’s not always about I think I can win.

I don’t know much about Haley, I see here on TV some. Something about her rings Rhino to me but just my take.

My wife has a niece with a degree in political science, works for a conservative think tank/RNC or something like that. She is ultra conservative, big Trump supporter. Interned at congress and maybe Whitehouse too. She is in the know. She told my wife as much as people want Trump back in office it’s not going to happen. The moderate republicans and independents just flat don’t like him. If I recall what she told my wife was something like, if Trump gets the nomination, we’ll have another Democrat president. To some extent I’d have to agree with what she said. With that said, it’s was a few months back and polls show Trump in a better position. If polls can be believed. Nothing stays the same. I’d have never guessed in a hundred years Trump would have won over Hillary but he did.

If you look at a guy like DeSantis, he seems tough but doesn’t come across offensive. Not being offensive is important to younger conservative voters. We live in a different time no doubt. I don’t like Trumps personality one bit, but he’s been the best president in my lifetime. Same for Ted Cruz, people may not like him but he is one smart cookie. I spoke with him one time face to face and it didn’t take long to realize Ted Cruz didn’t fall off a turnip truck. I think Ted Cruz would make a great President. People need to vote for who can do the best job, not win a popularity contest.


Trump lately has been attacking everyone, taking a page out of the Biden playbook.


Ronald Reagan was the best president in my lifetime, how soon people forget. Trump couldn't hold his jockstrap.

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Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
Originally Posted by GringoCazador
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Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by Raeford
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by Raeford
There's worse options than DeSantis, much worse.
Within the Republican offerings, or outside the current field?

Yes and or yes.
Is there a measurable difference between Haley and DeSantis?

How bout DeSantis vs Asa?

I know nothing about Asa. I’d guess Asa will be one of the first ones out. He’s no spring chicken and not all that well know. From what I understand some state laws allow politicians to retain a percentage of left over campaign funds. Might not win but may get some coin out of the deal. Also may get visibility for appointed positions. Then the book deals and speaking etc. it’s not always about I think I can win.

I don’t know much about Haley, I see here on TV some. Something about her rings Rhino to me but just my take.

My wife has a niece with a degree in political science, works for a conservative think tank/RNC or something like that. She is ultra conservative, big Trump supporter. Interned at congress and maybe Whitehouse too. She is in the know. She told my wife as much as people want Trump back in office it’s not going to happen. The moderate republicans and independents just flat don’t like him. If I recall what she told my wife was something like, if Trump gets the nomination, we’ll have another Democrat president. To some extent I’d have to agree with what she said. With that said, it’s was a few months back and polls show Trump in a better position. If polls can be believed. Nothing stays the same. I’d have never guessed in a hundred years Trump would have won over Hillary but he did.

If you look at a guy like DeSantis, he seems tough but doesn’t come across offensive. Not being offensive is important to younger conservative voters. We live in a different time no doubt. I don’t like Trumps personality one bit, but he’s been the best president in my lifetime. Same for Ted Cruz, people may not like him but he is one smart cookie. I spoke with him one time face to face and it didn’t take long to realize Ted Cruz didn’t fall off a turnip truck. I think Ted Cruz would make a great President. People need to vote for who can do the best job, not win a popularity contest.


Trump lately has been attacking everyone, taking a page out of the Biden playbook.


Ronald Reagan was the best president in my lifetime, how soon people forget. Trump couldn't hold his jockstrap.

IRCA 86 and National Forearms Act of ‘84 are truly amazing accomplishments.


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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
Originally Posted by GringoCazador
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Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by Raeford
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by Raeford
There's worse options than DeSantis, much worse.
Within the Republican offerings, or outside the current field?

Yes and or yes.
Is there a measurable difference between Haley and DeSantis?

How bout DeSantis vs Asa?

I know nothing about Asa. I’d guess Asa will be one of the first ones out. He’s no spring chicken and not all that well know. From what I understand some state laws allow politicians to retain a percentage of left over campaign funds. Might not win but may get some coin out of the deal. Also may get visibility for appointed positions. Then the book deals and speaking etc. it’s not always about I think I can win.

I don’t know much about Haley, I see here on TV some. Something about her rings Rhino to me but just my take.

My wife has a niece with a degree in political science, works for a conservative think tank/RNC or something like that. She is ultra conservative, big Trump supporter. Interned at congress and maybe Whitehouse too. She is in the know. She told my wife as much as people want Trump back in office it’s not going to happen. The moderate republicans and independents just flat don’t like him. If I recall what she told my wife was something like, if Trump gets the nomination, we’ll have another Democrat president. To some extent I’d have to agree with what she said. With that said, it’s was a few months back and polls show Trump in a better position. If polls can be believed. Nothing stays the same. I’d have never guessed in a hundred years Trump would have won over Hillary but he did.

If you look at a guy like DeSantis, he seems tough but doesn’t come across offensive. Not being offensive is important to younger conservative voters. We live in a different time no doubt. I don’t like Trumps personality one bit, but he’s been the best president in my lifetime. Same for Ted Cruz, people may not like him but he is one smart cookie. I spoke with him one time face to face and it didn’t take long to realize Ted Cruz didn’t fall off a turnip truck. I think Ted Cruz would make a great President. People need to vote for who can do the best job, not win a popularity contest.


Trump lately has been attacking everyone, taking a page out of the Biden playbook.


Ronald Reagan was the best president in my lifetime, how soon people forget. Trump couldn't hold his jockstrap.

IRCA 86 and National Forearms Act of ‘84 are truly amazing accomplishments.

He was not perfect but he inherited a horror show economy and fixed it. Interest rates on homes at 18% in some places. He destroyed the Soviet Union

What did Trump do? He signed a bunch of executive orders that were repealed Bidens first day in office. He passed a Tax bill . Everything but the Tax bill has been undone.

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Destroyed the Soviet Union?


How come we have to destroy it again?


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Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
Originally Posted by GringoCazador
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Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by Raeford
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by Raeford
There's worse options than DeSantis, much worse.
Within the Republican offerings, or outside the current field?

Yes and or yes.
Is there a measurable difference between Haley and DeSantis?

How bout DeSantis vs Asa?

I know nothing about Asa. I’d guess Asa will be one of the first ones out. He’s no spring chicken and not all that well know. From what I understand some state laws allow politicians to retain a percentage of left over campaign funds. Might not win but may get some coin out of the deal. Also may get visibility for appointed positions. Then the book deals and speaking etc. it’s not always about I think I can win.

I don’t know much about Haley, I see here on TV some. Something about her rings Rhino to me but just my take.

My wife has a niece with a degree in political science, works for a conservative think tank/RNC or something like that. She is ultra conservative, big Trump supporter. Interned at congress and maybe Whitehouse too. She is in the know. She told my wife as much as people want Trump back in office it’s not going to happen. The moderate republicans and independents just flat don’t like him. If I recall what she told my wife was something like, if Trump gets the nomination, we’ll have another Democrat president. To some extent I’d have to agree with what she said. With that said, it’s was a few months back and polls show Trump in a better position. If polls can be believed. Nothing stays the same. I’d have never guessed in a hundred years Trump would have won over Hillary but he did.

If you look at a guy like DeSantis, he seems tough but doesn’t come across offensive. Not being offensive is important to younger conservative voters. We live in a different time no doubt. I don’t like Trumps personality one bit, but he’s been the best president in my lifetime. Same for Ted Cruz, people may not like him but he is one smart cookie. I spoke with him one time face to face and it didn’t take long to realize Ted Cruz didn’t fall off a turnip truck. I think Ted Cruz would make a great President. People need to vote for who can do the best job, not win a popularity contest.


Trump lately has been attacking everyone, taking a page out of the Biden playbook.


Ronald Reagan was the best president in my lifetime, how soon people forget. Trump couldn't hold his jockstrap.

IRCA 86 and National Forearms Act of ‘84 are truly amazing accomplishments.

He was not perfect but he inherited a horror show economy and fixed it. Interest rates on homes at 18% in some places. He destroyed the Soviet Union

What did Trump do? He signed a bunch of executive orders that were repealed Bidens first day in office. He passed a Tax bill . Everything but the Tax bill has been undone.


IRCA 86 arguably set the stage to destroy America.

But Alzheimer’s had t set in yet so he owns it.


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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Destroyed the Soviet Union?


How come we have to destroy it again?
Destroy the Soviet Union? No one wants to fight and everyone is already scared to say anything about our government. We're going to need the Russian's help fighting the Muslims, minorities, queers and transvestites in the US of A. If not we'll be just like Canada and Europe before long.


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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Destroyed the Soviet Union?


How come we have to destroy it again?

We are dealing with Russia. I little history lesson would help you understand.

Correct. The USSR was finished. All the Soviet occupied countries were not under the USSR umbrella. Putin wants to bring it all back.

BTW they are not communists anymore. They are run just like the US is . Totalitarian state.

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Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Destroyed the Soviet Union?


How come we have to destroy it again?

We are dealing with Russia. I little history lesson would help you understand.

Correct. The USSR was finished. All the Soviet occupied countries were not under the USSR umbrella. Putin wants to bring it all back.

BTW they are not communists anymore. They are run just like the US is . Totalitarian state.

That is a ridiculous assessment of everything past, present, and future.

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Meatball is kinda harsh. How does ValsDad , (Geno) feel?


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You could twist yourself around a stick of rebar and shut up . You know that would feel better, right?


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Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
Only-trumpers big mad

Sit on a cactus and spin, you'll feel better.....


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