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Over the last 10-12 years we have seen more hunters switch from what ever they were using? to the 6.5 CM when I ask why? their answers are about the same, less recoil, more accurate, lighter rifle, threaded barrel,good factory ammo supply, or they just wanted to try something new. 99% of these hunters are not gun nuts, and what ever bullet comes in their ammo box is good enough for them.
The 6.5 CM has taken a hold of the Fudd's as well as the Loony's, no man bun required. Rio7

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Some guys were having real good luck with the Horandy 147gr ELDM. Wonder if those guys can expound on the subject? beretzs was one of them, if I remember correctly. That bullet has been pretty impressive to me, at shooting out to 1,000 yards. Not that I'd shoot a deer out that far, but I'd have no qualms putting one in the boiler room at 600 yards.. There's enough weight and mass there, that it should even work well up close too.

Cool, love to see some pictures of those 1000 yard groups.

Show yours first, so I can post up the ones that beat it.. Although, that's not what the OP was looking for. The last time I was using those 147's, I was shooting 600 yards. Hence the reason I said I'd have "no qualms" using it at that range:
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Throw up a 600 yard target Mike.. Just 1. Thanks!!!

OR, how about a sub 1" group at 400 yards:
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Again, the intent was to ask the guys that used this particular bullet on deer to "expound" on how well they worked. I'll wait for the pics buddy..

I have posted both 600 yard and 1000 yard targets within the past few months, feel free to check. I will note that they are shown on the proper sized target face. Not a 600 yard group on a 1000 yard face like you post above.

Regarding Hornady 6.5 ELDs on deer sized game, they work quite well on deer as I have posted in my hunt write ups in the past. What has been your actual experience with them? A rhetorical question of course...

Hi BSA. I was out at our Thursday morning practice today and noticed that I had a 600 yard 5 shot group stored in my Silver Mountain E Target memory. I normally shoot at least 10 shot groups as they are more revealing, but on that day I was just firing some foulers the day before our state Mid range Championships began. Here is the 600 yard group you requested. All shooting done with my 12.5 pound iron sighted .308, prone with sling.

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Since they were all saved a sighters, the system does display a group size, but you can see the X,Y coordinates of the outer shots in the 3 images... 2.51 inches on center.

1000 Yard Groups:

[Linked Image]

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Let's see some 1k groups, 15 shot min.

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Looks like the 308 still has it.


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Originally Posted by MikeS
Originally Posted by MikeS
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by MikeS
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Some guys were having real good luck with the Horandy 147gr ELDM. Wonder if those guys can expound on the subject? beretzs was one of them, if I remember correctly. That bullet has been pretty impressive to me, at shooting out to 1,000 yards. Not that I'd shoot a deer out that far, but I'd have no qualms putting one in the boiler room at 600 yards.. There's enough weight and mass there, that it should even work well up close too.

Cool, love to see some pictures of those 1000 yard groups.

Show yours first, so I can post up the ones that beat it.. Although, that's not what the OP was looking for. The last time I was using those 147's, I was shooting 600 yards. Hence the reason I said I'd have "no qualms" using it at that range:
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Throw up a 600 yard target Mike.. Just 1. Thanks!!!

OR, how about a sub 1" group at 400 yards:
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Again, the intent was to ask the guys that used this particular bullet on deer to "expound" on how well they worked. I'll wait for the pics buddy..

I have posted both 600 yard and 1000 yard targets within the past few months, feel free to check. I will note that they are shown on the proper sized target face. Not a 600 yard group on a 1000 yard face like you post above.

Regarding Hornady 6.5 ELDs on deer sized game, they work quite well on deer as I have posted in my hunt write ups in the past. What has been your actual experience with them? A rhetorical question of course...

Hi BSA. I was out at our Thursday morning practice today and noticed that I had a 600 yard 5 shot group stored in my Silver Mountain E Target memory. I normally shoot at least 10 shot groups as they are more revealing, but on that day I was just firing some foulers the day before our state Mid range Championships began. Here is the 600 yard group you requested. All shooting done with my 12.5 pound iron sighted .308, prone with sling.

[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

Since they were all saved a sighters, the system does display a group size, but you can see the X,Y coordinates of the outer shots in the 3 images... 2.51 inches on center.

1000 Yard Groups:

[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

Let's see some 1k groups, 15 shot min.

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Looks like the 308 still has it.

It can hang pretty well to 1000...


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Originally Posted by RIO7
Over the last 10-12 years we have seen more hunters switch from what ever they were using? to the 6.5 CM when I ask why? their answers are about the same, less recoil, more accurate, lighter rifle, threaded barrel,good factory ammo supply, or they just wanted to try something new. 99% of these hunters are not gun nuts, and what ever bullet comes in their ammo box is good enough for them.
The 6.5 CM has taken a hold of the Fudd's as well as the Loony's, no man bun required. Rio7

Like Bear Spray.

It works great... until it doesn't.

Have a 6.5x55mm - but it's not my only rifle.




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MikeS, Next time i run into a Big Bad bear in S.Texas i'll let you know how it turns out. Rio7

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Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Some guys were having real good luck with the Horandy 147gr ELDM. Wonder if those guys can expound on the subject? beretzs was one of them, if I remember correctly. That bullet has been pretty impressive to me, at shooting out to 1,000 yards. Not that I'd shoot a deer out that far, but I'd have no qualms putting one in the boiler room at 600 yards.. There's enough weight and mass there, that it should even work well up close too.
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Some guys were having real good luck with the Horandy 147gr ELDM. Wonder if those guys can expound on the subject? beretzs was one of them, if I remember correctly. That bullet has been pretty impressive to me, at shooting out to 1,000 yards. Not that I'd shoot a deer out that far, but I'd have no qualms putting one in the boiler room at 600 yards.. There's enough weight and mass there, that it should even work well up close too.

We’ve killed a bunch of whitetail with the 147gr ELDM bullets, though Hornady’s factory TAP ammunition. This is a duty round for our department’s precision rifles. Once a year for for about 10 years we’ve done a team hunt where we test our duty rounds, testing for terminal ballistics. We’ve used the Federal Gold Medal Match 308 win. 168gr MK, the Hornady TAP 168gr ELDM and now for the past 5 years we’ve used the 6.5 Creedmoor loaded with the 147 ELDM bullets. The hunt is more of a cull hunt where we average 7 deer a year. Each shooter is given a particular point on the body to aim at such as high shoulder, middle shoulder, heart, lung, neck, etc. Using the .308 win. Federal GMM 168gr. Sierra Matchkings we lost several animals. Although the Federal 168gr. GMM round is extremely accurate its terminal ballistics are not good, living up to the old adage that match bullets aren’t good for hunting. Many years ago I hunted with the Hornady A-Max bullets which always worked great, so I had faith the Hornady ELDM’s would closely mimic the A-MAX. Once we switched to the Hornady TAP in either .308 or the 6.5 creedmoor, we haven’t lost an animal yet. Many of the animals have gone down directly but some have run, few have gone farther than just a few yards. My only complaint with the 147 ELDM’s have been through the TAP they’re not moving as fast as I think they should or could. Sometimes the bullets didn’t completely pass through but when they didn’t we would normally find a well uniformed opened up bullet in the offside hide. Internal damage was always pretty devastating and if the shoulders were hit the meat would be bloodshot. Most of these shots were taken at 100 to 300 yards on South Texas whitetail.

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MikeS, Next time i run into a Big Bad bear in S.Texas i'll let you know how it turns out. Rio7

Garandimal may be more interested than me. smile


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MikeS, Next time i run into a Big Bad bear in S.Texas i'll let you know how it turns out. Rio7

For the Great State of Louisiana, and SE Texas, the 6.5x55mm works just fine.




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Garandimal, Won't you feel unarmed without your Bear Spray?? Rio7

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Garandimal, Won't you feel unarmed without your Bear Spray?? Rio7

Now you're just bein' silly.

Don't have any bear spray, just rifles.

Thought that was obvious.




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Originally Posted by MikeS
Originally Posted by MikeS
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by MikeS
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Some guys were having real good luck with the Horandy 147gr ELDM. Wonder if those guys can expound on the subject? beretzs was one of them, if I remember correctly. That bullet has been pretty impressive to me, at shooting out to 1,000 yards. Not that I'd shoot a deer out that far, but I'd have no qualms putting one in the boiler room at 600 yards.. There's enough weight and mass there, that it should even work well up close too.

Cool, love to see some pictures of those 1000 yard groups.

Show yours first, so I can post up the ones that beat it.. Although, that's not what the OP was looking for. The last time I was using those 147's, I was shooting 600 yards. Hence the reason I said I'd have "no qualms" using it at that range:
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Throw up a 600 yard target Mike.. Just 1. Thanks!!!

OR, how about a sub 1" group at 400 yards:
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Again, the intent was to ask the guys that used this particular bullet on deer to "expound" on how well they worked. I'll wait for the pics buddy..

I have posted both 600 yard and 1000 yard targets within the past few months, feel free to check. I will note that they are shown on the proper sized target face. Not a 600 yard group on a 1000 yard face like you post above.

Regarding Hornady 6.5 ELDs on deer sized game, they work quite well on deer as I have posted in my hunt write ups in the past. What has been your actual experience with them? A rhetorical question of course...

Hi BSA. I was out at our Thursday morning practice today and noticed that I had a 600 yard 5 shot group stored in my Silver Mountain E Target memory. I normally shoot at least 10 shot groups as they are more revealing, but on that day I was just firing some foulers the day before our state Mid range Championships began. Here is the 600 yard group you requested. All shooting done with my 12.5 pound iron sighted .308, prone with sling.

[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

Since they were all saved a sighters, the system does display a group size, but you can see the X,Y coordinates of the outer shots in the 3 images... 2.51 inches on center.

1000 Yard Groups:

[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

Let's see some 1k groups, 15 shot min.



Unusual for BSA to miss a chance to post pictures... hope he's OK.


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3-- 147-ELD-M 1200 Yards

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5 --147-ELD-M 1800 yards

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Originally Posted by MikeS
Unusual for BSA to miss a chance to post pictures... hope he's OK.


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Hey BSA, haven't seen any 1k targets posted by you yet. What's up with that?

Here are my 1000 yard targets from this morning. The good the bad and the ugly. .308 155 grain Sierras, iron sights and sling.

String one felt good. Dialed 3 minutes right wind for shot 1 and just clipped a 10. Went ahead and converted that sighter to score and continued on. 3.5 right to .5 left wind range on this string. You can see what happens when you miss a let off with shot 5.

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Let the barrel cool a little and started with 1 minute right wind. Bad call as the direction had shifted. More vertical on this string which may reflect some barrel mirage. Need to bring mirage band next time.

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Let the barrel cool more this time but in spite of adding a click or 2 of right wind every other shot I was behind the curve as the group center shows. Except for that pesky let off at the end of course! 3 right to 1 right on this string

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That was every shot fired this morning. Still looking forward to your targets. smile


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Still waiting for your promised targets BSA.

Tick Tock...


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