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Then…
“If the longest of real world shot strings-which would be the ones with holes—don’t make any practical difference in the field.” Then looking for holes on paper would be a waste of time.

Or according to him….since everything happens so fast…the Bird couldn’t fly thru any hole. It would close up before he could avoid following pellets. Again looking for paper holes would be a waste.

Pointing well kills more game than what a paper pattern looks like. If you can use a hot core it may be worth shooting paper. Most of us are better off with some spread to make up for our pointing errors.

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Shot string...



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^^^This guy explains it pretty well^^^

There's theory, then there's reality. In a real life scenario it just doesn't matter.

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He was physically trying to spread the string. Which is different than a shot string that separates on its own at distance.

If he could have timed it perfectly, he could have used a pattern board.

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Good grief... Aside from that, I enjoyed the pics you posted and especially that little Ithaca 37.


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Thanks....It has showed me the 28 can do more than many give it credit for....

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Originally Posted by battue
George, I’m not all sure a straight stock would be an advantage with the Ithaca 28. It is a quick little shotgun, that needs driven as much as pointed. The pistol grip just may aid in the steering by helping with control.
That stock shape is sorta clunky, not sleek and pretty.

But it works better than it looks; I like mine, also a 28 ga.

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Ithaca has a tight curve in the pistol grip. It is a bit different I think from many other designs but in the hand it feels good and points very well for me. Dirt, that is a beauty!


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Originally Posted by Muddinmetal
28 is so overrated. Most times it is hotter than 20ga and easier to find on the shelf


I think you have them backwards. I can easily find 28, hard to find 20 or 16 gauge

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Not a 3", but my fav 28 ga.

Merkel handles great, sweet gun.

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Not a 3", but my fav 28 ga.

Merkel handles great, sweet gun.

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The Merkel has a very strong action. Shouldn't be a problem to have it opened to 3" is one was so inclined.

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I have a Browning Citori 525 O/U 3 barrel set, but my reloader is a 2 3/4" it is a good quail gun with a dog. Better on clays, where a chip counts. The 20 klls clean, the 28 leaves more than I like running or hiding.

I do like it for pruning high sucker limbs off of my Pecan trees. :-)


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Battue,
Those are some great pictures!

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Thank you!!!!


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ok, back on topic.
don't complain about 1800.00 for a 28ga. heck, my vintage new haven model 12 28ga is listed for 12 grand.
best deal out there would be a jap browning m12 or jap Winchester m12 in 28ga. im pretty sure theyre 3" rated.
go looking.
don't overlook old used vintage 28ga guns. plenty out there. remember, pre wars were 2 7/8", not 3".
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hey battue...don't miss my reply in the sxm1 topic. you asked for some history/old pics. go see.


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Originally Posted by bobski
hey battue...don't miss my reply in the sxm1 topic. you asked for some history/old pics. go see.

Thanks, I saw that. I was also interested in the comment re multiple world championships. Ive participated in World Championships, never win one, but got to play. In fact the World Fitasc Championship is going on right now in Hungary. A good friend is representing the USA on the Veteran team.

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Agree, the 20 and 28 Browning and Jap Model 12 Repros are quality shotguns for those that can work a pump.


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Originally Posted by bobski
ok, back on topic.
don't complain about 1800.00 for a 28ga. heck, my vintage new haven model 12 28ga is listed for 12 grand.
best deal out there would be a jap browning m12 or jap Winchester m12 in 28ga. im pretty sure theyre 3" rated.
go looking.
don't overlook old used vintage 28ga guns. plenty out there. remember, pre wars were 2 7/8", not 3".
good luck!


Bobski, the Miroku made M12 repros whether 20 or 28 ga, Winchester or Browning badged are all 2-3/4" chambered guns. I have one of each gauge and agree they scratch the itch for a reasonable priced 28 ga or 20 ga, at least in the Gr 1 configuration. The Grade 5's all have big asking prices here in Canada....although they don't seem to sell.

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