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What's the difference between a Leupold Vari-XII and a Leupold Vari-XIIC?

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I seem to remember that I read somewhere that the internal windage and elevation adjustment was increased in this model scope and the c was added to denote this change, maybe about 1985. I am sure others know more about this than I.

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ttt cause I am curious too

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The Vari XII is 1/2 inch friction adjustment and the Vari XIIc is 1/4 inch click adjustment that is what LEUPOLD rep told me cuz I have the Vari XII and hate it. Called LEUPOLD and they will put 1/4 inch click adjustment in and retune the scope for 90.00.

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i don't know why they (24hrcampfire) don't make this some sort of sticky at the top of the optic forum. it is a confusing subject that gets brought up almost once a week. (and for good reason too, it's confusing)any way my .02 on the subject.


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The vari-x II has less internal adjustment that the IIc. I have a vari-x II on an old 270 that I couldn't get to zero at 100. Sent to leupold for cleaning and check out and talked to the tech. who explained it to me and recommended the burris posi-align rings. Swapped in the burris rings and everything is perfect. (Tried to get him to swap me out for a IIc, but he wouldn't go for it. smile )


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Originally Posted by duckndawg
The Vari XII is 1/2 inch friction adjustment and the Vari XIIc is 1/4 inch click adjustment...
Completely false. I have the Leupold Vari-X IIc and it has 1/2 MOA increment friction adjustments. The newer VX-II has 1/4 MOA click adjustments.


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NOT completly false I have the VariXII bought it in 1996 and IT IS 1/2 inch friction adjustment I called leupold and asked what gives so I got the info that I passed along from the horses mouth!! BUT now the VariXII ARE 1/4 inch click.


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They don't make Vari-X II scopes any more, it's the VX-II that has 1/4 min. clicks. It causes a lot of confusion, but VX is not an abbreviation for Vari-X.

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Of the 2 scopes Vari-x II and Vari-xIIc, which one became the Rifleman? The Rifleman has 1/2" friction adjustments.

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None, the VX1 is the old Vari-XII. The Rifleman is a new addition to the line-up.

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Originally Posted by duckndawg
NOT completly false I have the VariXII bought it in 1996 and IT IS 1/2 inch friction adjustment I called Leupold and asked what gives so I got the info that I passed along from the horses mouth!! BUT now the VariXII ARE 1/4 inch click.

Originally Posted by GreatWaputi
None, the VX1 is the old Vari-XII. The Rifleman is a new addition to the line-up.


Misinformation abounds.

The discontinued Vari-X II (all variations) only had 1/2 MOA-increment adjustments, the new VX-II has 1/4 MOA click adjustments. People should get their terminology and information straight before posting.

The Rifleman is actually the current scope closest in features to the discontinued Vari-X II. The VX-I has multicoating on exterior lens surfaces, the Vari-X II did not. The VX-I has 1/4 MOA-increment friction adjustments, the Vari-X II did not.

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now your talking two different scopes a Vari XII and a VXII so which one are you refering to jackfish? so now your passing on misinformation


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Originally Posted by duckndawg
NOT completly false I have the VariXII bought it in 1996 and IT IS 1/2 inch friction adjustment I called leupold and asked what gives so I got the info that I passed along from the horses mouth!! BUT now the VariXII ARE 1/4 inch click.



Originally Posted by mathman
They don't make Vari-X II scopes any more, it's the VX-II that has 1/4 min. clicks. It causes a lot of confusion, but VX is not an abbreviation for Vari-X.


Originally Posted by duckndawg
The Vari XII is 1/2 inch friction adjustment and the Vari XIIc is 1/4 inch click adjustment that is what LEUPOLD rep told me cuz I have the Vari XII and hate it. Called LEUPOLD and they will put 1/4 inch click adjustment in and retune the scope for 90.00.


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Completely false. I have the Leupold Vari-X IIc and it has 1/2 MOA increment friction adjustments. The newer VX-II has 1/4 MOA click adjustments.



You gotta love the internet! You're all correct in one manner or the other! Some answers are just more general and less specific than the other.


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Gotta be carful about absolutist statements around here.... smile



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Originally Posted by JoeSmith
Of the 2 scopes Vari-x II and Vari-xIIc, which one became the Rifleman? The Rifleman has 1/2" friction adjustments.



I don't think any of them became the Rilfeman--unless it was the Vari-X II's from the 70's.............


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Originally Posted by GreatWaputi
What's the difference between a Leupold Vari-XII and a Leupold Vari-XIIC?


About $120 bucks.

In the real world, no difference except the better LR reticle is available in the VXII line and not in the VXIII line.


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Originally Posted by jackfish
Misinformation abounds.

The discontinued Vari-X II (all variations) only had 1/2 MOA-increment adjustments, the new VX-II has 1/4 MOA click adjustments. People should get their terminology and information straight before posting.

The Rifleman is actually the current scope closest in features to the discontinued Vari-X II. The VX-I has multicoating on exterior lens surfaces, the Vari-X II did not. The VX-I has 1/4 MOA-increment friction adjustments, the Vari-X II did not.


The Vari-X II lens and/or coatings were "improved" at least once during the late 80's/early 90's, but nothing was designated on the scopes to note the improvement.

The Vari-X IIc went to click adjustments and smaller increments.

The first year or two of VX-II production had the exterior side of the objective and ocular lens coated with Leupys "Multi-Coat 4" coatings first used ont he Vari-X III's. In approximately 2004, the VX-X II's went to Multi-Coat on both sides of the objective and ocular lens.

I have received various answers from Leupy guys on the question if Multi-coat is on the interior lens or not......

The VX-I's and Rifleman appearently are not a direct copy of any of the Vari-X II's or VX-II's--they just use a lot of the older components/technology--with some new stuff thrown in.

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Hey! how's the unibuilder? I assume you are dried in and working on the interior? Did ya' get to go elk hunting? grin



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Casey, finished the last bit of siding (but didn't get it painted) just before the sub-zero stuff hit. My drywall finisher is finishing up (threw out his back last week) so I'm going slow this week. Did a few days of elk hunting and passed on a big bull opening day cause I was too tired to climb up the mountain and kill him! Go figure. Unibuilding has its down-side grin

Will paint the interior this week and start oak flooroing.

Should be in sometime in March.

Have been out a few times since and seen a lot of cows which I ain't shooting miles back!

This week I saw a nice 320 class bull but the bugger was literally 150 yards on the other side of a unit that closed down for the season... too funny. I ranged him at 452 yards, no wind, laying prone. Easy shot.

BTW, Casey what do you like for an interior spray tip?


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