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Originally Posted by FOsteology
I took my oldest son over to Namibia when he was 13yo. He used a 30-06 with 165gr. trophy bonded bullets. Had absolutely no problem tipping over animals.

that is very nice to know thank you,Pete53


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Originally Posted by pete53
does not matter EH committed suicide , so continue your negative or maybe even positive post . thanks much for all your posts " makes me laugh " ,Pete53

There is stupid and then a little lower is you Petey-pie. Won’t even respond to me cuz I called you out on your claim. I read your nonsense when taking a dump and it’s like a twofer. Anyway run the 06 with NPs in darkest A like it’s already been said a million times including by me and quit wasting bandwidth. I swear if your fuggin is anything like this post - is it good enough honey? the wife must be one unhappy woman. Move on. The 06 works today like it always has. Did you really need 10 pages Captain Obvious?


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does not matter EH committed suicide , so continue your negative or maybe even positive post . thanks much for all your posts " makes me laugh " ,Pete53

There is stupid and then a little lower is you Petey-pie. Won’t even respond to me cuz I called you out on your claim. I read your nonsense when taking a dump and it’s like a twofer. Anyway run the 06 with NPs in darkest A like it’s already been said a million times including by me and quit wasting bandwidth. I swear if your fuggin is anything like this post - is it good enough honey? the wife must be one unhappy woman. Move on. The 06 works today like it always has. Did you really need 10 pages Captain Obvious?

thanks for such negative words anyway we have not discussed brass, powder , primers ,barrel length and a few other rifle options . so give us all some real good input from the state of Maine . i sure enjoy a good laugh , maybe we can make another 10 pages yet ? > do you understand you do look a little more foolish ? but go for it ! he-haw


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“Captain Obvious”…that is funny



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And very apropos. I can’t believe this post has 11 pages when the obvious answer came back on page one. Talk about beating a dead horse……

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hey go easy on petey if your answer ain't what he wants to hear you are a a$$hole and you are trying to take his special needs away from him

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Such negativity some of you boys need a glass or two of wine and a couple pieces of cheese to help you be a little more positive ? have a safe and great hunting season , i know i will with my new to me 30-06 ! Pete53

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Steve,

When Eileen went on her first safari in 1999, along with me and Ingwe, she'd also heard tales about how tough African game could be. She'd been hunting with a couple different .270 Winchesters for over a decade, taking Montana game up through bull elk and moose quite handily, but decided to take my Ultra Light Arms .30-06. She killed four animals--kudu, gemsbok, blue wildebeest and red hartebeest--using the 165-grain Fail Safe bullet at around 2900 fps.

All except the kudu were one-shot kills, and the kudu would have died quickly from the first shot, because the bullet went through both lungs and exited the opposite shoulder on quartering-away shot. But the kudu started running through the brush, quartering the other way, and she put another similar shot into the opposite side.

After the safari she said, "I would have done just as well with my .270!" But on her next trip in 2008 to South Africa, she instead brought a .308 Winchester with 150-grain Nosler E-Tips handloaded to around 2850 fps--basically the same as a .270. She did equally well, including taking a big Burchell's zebra.

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thank you Mule Deer that gives me plenty encouragement , some real truth of a 30-06 and other similar cartridges. thank you,Pete53

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I have, somewhere around here, Jack O'Conner's "Last Book". I think it was in there that Jack mentioned that hie wife, Elenore, had taken one Africian elephant and did it with a 30-06! Bell also shot a lot of them with old 6.5's. I can't imgine this thread going on this long!

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Well, Petey-pie obviously needs someone to reinforce his beliefs and pat him on the head.


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Originally Posted by DonFischer
I have, somewhere around here, Jack O'Conner's "Last Book". I think it was in there that Jack mentioned that hie wife, Elenore, had taken one Africian elephant and did it with a 30-06! Bell also shot a lot of them with old 6.5's. I can't imgine this thread going on this long!



rifle hunting season is starting now so i am sure most of us will have better things to do than post . so will let little bluefish whine some more . have a safe great hunting season ,Pete53


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Steve,

Here's Eileen with the zebra stallion she took in South Africa on her second safari, with her custom .308 Winchester with a 150-grain Nosler E-Tip. Along with blue wildebeest and gemsbok, zebras are considered among the toughest of plains game.

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Just pondering whether the 180's in a .308 at 2700 would be better than .338 225's at over 2900 for eland. 1 1/2 pound rifle weight difference in favor of .308.

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My late friend Stu Carty (also a friend and business partner of RinB, and a real rifle loony) took five eland during his several safaris--four with the .30-06 and one with the .375 H&H. He said all the .30-06'd eland died quicker....


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
My late friend Stu Carty (also a friend and business partner of RinB, and a real rifle loony) took five eland during his several safaris--four with the .30-06 and one with the .375 H&H. He said all the .30-06'd eland died quicker....
Just thinking that the .338 will shoot a bit flatter for any 300 yard shot...I don't dial.

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Originally Posted by Riflehunter
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My late friend Stu Carty (also a friend and business partner of RinB, and a real rifle loony) took five eland during his several safaris--four with the .30-06 and one with the .375 H&H. He said all the .30-06'd eland died quicker....
Just thinking that the .338 will shoot a bit flatter for any 300 yard shot...I don't dial.


look and use Berger ballistic chart and compare the two very little difference in inches out to 400 yards between a 30 caliber bullet or a 338 bullet but the 338 Win did have a lot more power. i compared 180 gr. 30 caliber at 2700 fps and 338 caliber 225 gr at a honest 2800 fps used Nosler Partitions for both. only thing i used a 30-06 vs. 338 Win .mag. if you use a 308 Win. it is closer to 2500 fps with same bullet i did not do max on any of these .


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Geez, hasn’t this dead horse been beaten enough? Does anyone really believe a difference of of a few hundred fps or 10-20 grains of bullet weight makes a difference if you him in the chest? You people simply love to salivate over meaningless details or you’re pisspoor shots that you shouldn’t be hunting. Hell, get .416 Rigby and quit all this jaw jacking.

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Originally Posted by pete53
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My late friend Stu Carty (also a friend and business partner of RinB, and a real rifle loony) took five eland during his several safaris--four with the .30-06 and one with the .375 H&H. He said all the .30-06'd eland died quicker....
Just thinking that the .338 will shoot a bit flatter for any 300 yard shot...I don't dial.


look and use Berger ballistic chart and compare the two very little difference in inches out to 400 yards between a 30 caliber bullet or a 338 bullet but the 338 Win did have a lot more power. i compared 180 gr. 30 caliber at 2700 fps and 338 caliber 225 gr at a honest 2800 fps used Nosler Partitions for both. only thing i used a 30-06 vs. 338 Win .mag. if you use a 308 Win. it is closer to 2500 fps with same bullet i did not do max on any of these .
Pete, the .308 with 180's has a long throat and a long magazine box. Seated at 2.93" it gets an honest 2720 fps. The .338 is long throated and seated long with a long mag box and it also gets an honest 2930-2950. With both 3" high at 100 yards, the .308 is down 8.7" at 300yds and the .338 is 5.5" down at 300 yds. Easy just to aim for a high shoulder shot with the .338 at 300 yds. But I agree , not much difference.

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i just went the middle of the powder velocity from the Nosler reloading book and yes i do agree with you.


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