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Looking at the Arken specs on the 4-16 ELP. The center dot says 0.04 on the MIL reticle and 0.14 on the MOA are they actually the same size?
Next say those center dots are close to 1/8"(0.125") and they cover 1/8 " at 100 yards as the power turns up or down does it still cover !/8" in relation to the target. Say your holding on a ruler at 100 yards and the dot covers 1/8" on the ruler as you move the power up and down will the dot continue to cover 1/8" on the ruler as the image of the ruler and dot gets larger or smaller in the scope?
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After the first shot the rest are just noise.
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A Mil is a Mil is a Mil on a FFP reticle,at all magnification(s) and distance(s). It's a lineal angular measurement. A Mil is 3.6" at 100yds,18" at 500yds and 36" at 1000yds. Hint.
MOA is a poor system in comparison. Hint.....................
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So in a round about way you can't answer the question
After the first shot the rest are just noise.
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The image of the ruler will grow/shrink with the reticle as power is adjusted, so yes, it will continue to cover the same 1/8" you propose, at any magnification.
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The center dot says 0.04 on the MIL reticle and 0.14 on the MOA are they actually the same size? Yes.
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You are at the HILARIOUS mercy of your “intelligence”…you “lucky” kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Your STUPIDITY falls squarely on your very narrow shoulders. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!………….
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You are at the HILARIOUS mercy of your “intelligence”…you “lucky” kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Your STUPIDITY falls squarely on your very narrow shoulders. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!…………. You never answered: are you saying you never posted on AR15.com?
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The math is not hard, it is 0.1375 to take it out a few decimal points, or round it to 0.14.
Or one could just look it up online too.
https://www.justintools.com/unit-conversion/angle.php?k1=mils%5Bmilliradians%5D&k2=minute-of-arc
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You never answered: are you saying you never posted on AR15.com? JFC... The new version of 'post yer load'.....
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You are at the HILARIOUS mercy of your “intelligence”…you “lucky” kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Your STUPIDITY falls squarely on your very narrow shoulders. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!…………. You never answered: are you saying you never posted on AR15.com? [quote=Big Stick]You are at the HILARIOUS mercy of your “intelligence”…you “lucky” kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Your STUPIDITY falls squarely on your very narrow shoulders. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!…………. Karen, Keep Crying as you “live” vicariously and think about me,more than anyone does you…you “lucky” kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!? Perhaps cite how many times a day you think about me and the durations of same,as you extoll your Brokedick Professional Victim status. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!…………… As to the OP being stumped by lineal angular subtension,that is hardly “surprising”. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!…………..
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You never answered: are you saying you never posted on AR15.com? JFC... The new version of 'post yer load'..... Actually, it shows he's a lying POS. Which is why he won't answer. 😉
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So in a round about way you can't answer the question Answer below... A Mil is a Mil is a Mil on a FFP reticle,at all magnification(s) and distance(s). It's a lineal angular measurement. A little extra, ![[Linked Image from upload.wikimedia.org]](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4e/Circle_radians.gif)
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So in a round about way you can't answer the question Answer below... A Mil is a Mil is a Mil on a FFP reticle,at all magnification(s) and distance(s). It's a lineal angular measurement. A little extra, ![[Linked Image from upload.wikimedia.org]](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4e/Circle_radians.gif) Jaaaaason!
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You never answered: are you saying you never posted on AR15.com? JFC... The new version of 'post yer load'..... Actually, it shows he's a lying POS. Which is why he won't answer. 😉 Brokestick liar Larry. Got his ass kicked out of every respectable forum for being a fraud and a troll, but yet still claims to be something. Hint
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Jeff and Shaun thank you. I wanted to know if a first focal plane scope would work for me. I have a couple FFP scopes but they are not your typical FFP in a long range situation. One has tapered crosshairs(Balvar 8) and a Meopta 1.5-6 with a German #1. Both work for hunting coyotes but I limit myself to 300 yards with 22-250s and 22-204s so hold overs are not an issue.
I would like to try a FFP for targets/varmints and wanted to get some ideas of how these work. Everything I real about FFP is all about.ranging at distance..
So thank you again.
Last edited by erich; 08/19/23.
After the first shot the rest are just noise.
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You never answered: are you saying you never posted on AR15.com? JFC... The new version of 'post yer load'..... Actually, it shows he's a lying POS. Which is why he won't answer. 😉 Brokestick liar Larry. Got his ass kicked out of every respectable forum for being a fraud and a troll, but yet still claims to be something. Hint Kind of funny and sad how Stick lives in your and Goalie minds. Got to be one of those homo erotic things as he says. Let it go.
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Kind of funny and sad how Stick lives in your and Goalie minds. Got to be one of those homo erotic things as he says. Let it go. Or, I can just respond in kind. He's the one saying he wasn't on AR-15, I just want him to actually say it very clearly. 😉 Anyhow, GFY
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For crissake grow up.....
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For crissake grow up..... GFY With a rusty cactus. Twice. After you get done blowing your midget buddy that you seem to think behaves just fine.
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I don't think he behaves just fine, but all the constant' stick chasing' gets old as [bleep] and you add nothing here with it, but stroking your ego and thinking you're 'making a difference'. try ignore if you can't handle him.
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