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Where could I get a SWC or WC sized to .432" bullet? 12 BHN or less is most desired and open to coated, soft lubed or unlubed.

I sent my Ruger 44 mag BH cylinder to DougGuy and once the throats got pinned out, I had two big throats and four smaller ones, honing the cylinder to where they are all even results in the need for a .432 bullet.

Montana Bullets appears to have the size and I will be calling them regarding availability of a softer BHN/lube.

Edit: MB has nothing < 15 BHN

Meanwhile any suggestions to other sources, commercial or hand casters, will be greatly appreciated.

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Buy a cheap Lee mold, the molds are called .429 in the advertising but the drop right at .430 to .431 with wheelweights and then "beagle'' the mold per instructions on youtube or cast boolits forums. The bullets don't mike perfectly round, but damned if I can see any difference on paper.

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Thanks for your reply Mr Flintlocke.
Sorry, and I apologies for not mentioning it, but I don't cast. I once considered it where I had room but here I don't. I'll pass the info along to my local guy. Maybe he can cook something up.


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I like and use Montana Bullet Works hard cast bullets. In most of them, you can specify the diameter.

Something like this might work for you:

https://www.montanabulletworks.com/product/44-mag-lbt-260gr-wfn-gc/

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One time I found a local caster and traded him the mould he needed and let him take it from there.


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https://www.brazosprecision.com/ According to their website, their .44 coated lead SWC is 13 BN. They list two options in stock, being .430 and .431. I suspect they may size an order for you to .432. Give them a call or e-mail through their website. It never hurts to ask and they have very good prices and good bullets. They are located in Central Time Zone.


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Missouri Bullets Cowboy Series are 12 BH and they claim they will sell unsized and unlubed bullets. Tumble lube them or powder coat and you're golden. Worth sending them an email anyway.


https://missouribullet.com/results.php?category=21


https://missouribullet.com/results.php?category=5&secondary=17


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Not a caster? I feel your pain! I spent a (thankfully short) period of my life living in an environment that hindered casting but still figured out a a little outdoor spot where I could run an extension cord and made do with some rather primitive basic gear -a hot plate and a small cast iron pot. If you could manage that, or have a friend who'll put up with your doing that "off post", it would present a solution to your dilemma.

In the event that you could make that happen, contact Accurate Molds and see if Tom can cook up a mold that drops bullets at your desired size (I would simplify things and specify a simple 1:10 or 1:20 tin:lead alloy). I bet he can get awfully close to nailing it if not hitting it dead nuts. Then after creating your bullets via creative "guerilla tactics" you can pan lube the bullets in your kitchen/living room/bedroom (all places I've done it in the past!), and avoid the added expense and setup of a lubrisizer if that's an issue too.

Where there's a will there's a way!!

It seems every Tom, Dick, and Harry's got in his head that harder equals better/more accurate/less leading when we know that ain't necessarily so, and hence the lead bullet suppliers kowtow to it thus perpetuating the myth. I guess too the commercial guys would wear themselves out trying to serve all comers sizing needs so they simplify as best they can.


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Addendum: you'll need to address the expander spud in your die set if it isn't large enough to neatly accommodate your larger than "normal" bullet diameter. A new larger one from your die's manufacturer, or switch to an alternative expander plug of which there are several options. Failure to do so can possibly lead to bullets being squeezed down when seating them which would obviate all your hard work to this point, or cause loss of concentricity. Net result - poor accuracy at the least, and if the bullets are cockeyed in the case you may well also experience failure to feed into the chambers. The expander only needs to be a thousandth or two under bullet size, especially if you put a decent crimp on them. Die makers tend to provide expanders aimed at standard diameter jacketed bullets.


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Thanks one and all for your comments both on and off list.

Fyi update;
Montana Bullet while having .432, they don't have them as soft I want.
Missouri BC has not answered my calls or writing. (I have and had their bullets before with good results)
GT's wait time is out.
Brazos appears to suit my needs and I await their response.

I also appreciate the nudge towards casting my own but it simply wont work for me at this time and place. Thanks for the heads up on a potential expander issue. I had not considered it. I suppose that will be a wait to see thing until I get some bullets?

Finally, I been given an option of gifting a .432 sizer to two different hand casters. One local and not so local (he powder coats them)

Thanks again.

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Originally Posted by GF1
I like and use Montana Bullet Works hard cast bullets. In most of them, you can specify the diameter.

Something like this might work for you:

https://www.montanabulletworks.com/product/44-mag-lbt-260gr-wfn-gc/




Thanks for the info. Thinking, I'll put an order in.

Love Montana Bullets.

Brazo makes a great 240SWC.


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The same place you get your 30cal cast bullets!

Give him a little time and patience though. His wife died 6 days ago. In another week or so he might enjoy something to occupy his mind.


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I feel terrible! I have been emailing back and forth with him and did not know. All the while, him digging through is stuff for a sizer and not a word. Damn!

Thank you Dinny for your message and I will send my condolences and apologizes immediately.


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Mjac, another possibility would be hollow based bullets, if you can find any.


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Per Brazo bullets

" We only sell what we provide on our website. We do not do any custom orders like this. Thank you for your inquiry. "


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Guys,
Thanks for you input. I have a SM box of powder coated .432 on the way.
I'll post up the test firing results.

Thanks


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FWIW I have an Accurate Mold for a 240 grain WFN bullet that I would be happy to sell drops bullets at .432 exactly.

If you have someone that will cast for you it is an excellent bullet.

Thanks

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Originally Posted by mjac
Guys,
Thanks for you input. I have a SM box of powder coated .432 on the way.
I'll post up the test firing results.

Thanks

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Originally Posted by tcp
FWIW I have an Accurate Mold for a 240 grain WFN bullet that I would be happy to sell drops bullets at .432 exactly.

If you have someone that will cast for you it is an excellent bullet.

Thanks
If the OP or anyone else is not interested in the above mold I definitely would be.

PM sent a few days ago.

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