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H4350 is the only one I’ve tried, sub MOA groups with 143 gr & 129 gr pills.

Very happy with the majority, but superformance is finicky. Been seeing that with some of my 22-250 loads as well.
What issue are you seeing?

Just bigger groups, as the temps go up. To be fair, some of those loads were developed in the fall/winter months and shot in the summer time. It happens more so with some powders. I find H4350 to be much more stable. When developing loads, you can see the nodes and it doesn't take much to fall out of that node when using superformance. I've also seen that in some 300WSM loads, using superformance powder. In the pic above, those 2 pounds I have left, may be the last 2 I mess with.


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Originally Posted by 84Mtn_EER
46gr of H4831sc with your 143gr ELD-X.

H4350 is good but there are some awesome underrated powders out there like StaBall6.5, Hunter, and Reloder 16
Thanks I have some sc as well as Staball and 4350 so I'll give those a try.


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Originally Posted by Blacktailer
Got any recipes for the 143ELDX? I have all of the mentioned powders.

I tried almost all powders but RL26 in my 6.5 CM, but it likes 44.6 gr of Superformance with 143 ELD-X’s the best.

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I’m still new at reloading in general and just recently picked up a Ruger American Predator in 6.5 Creed. Mentioned it in Mule Deer’s short essay on the 6.5 Creedmoor. Working with what I had on hand I shot this group in the rain last Saturday. Load was 40.5gr of Big Game under a 143gr ELD-X in new mystery primed Hornady Brass from Mid South. I measured case length and then seated a bullet with a cheap set of Lee Pacesetter dies at a COL of 2.8”. Next will try mag primers in the once fired brass but I’m not complaining with the results so far.



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Will be giving Ramshot Hunter a try

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Originally Posted by JamesJr
H4350 and 6.5 Staball

Yup


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What velocities are you guys seeing with 6.5 Staball and 140s?

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shooting 127 LRX's I've had good results with 3, R16, RL 17 and big game.

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I’ve got a few boxes of 127s on the shelf and a bunch of RL17 and Big Game. How are speeds?


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Originally Posted by JPro
I’ve got a few boxes of 127s on the shelf and a bunch of RL17 and Big Game. How are speeds?

In my 24" Tikka I got 2940'ish with 42.4 RL17 in Alpha cases and BR2's with the 127. It was very good shooting.


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Originally Posted by beretzs
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I’ve got a few boxes of 127s on the shelf and a bunch of RL17 and Big Game. How are speeds?

In my 24" Tikka I got 2940'ish with 42.4 RL17 in Alpha cases and BR2's with the 127. It was very good shooting.

Wish I could find RL17,


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Originally Posted by Remington280
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I’ve got a few boxes of 127s on the shelf and a bunch of RL17 and Big Game. How are speeds?

In my 24" Tikka I got 2940'ish with 42.4 RL17 in Alpha cases and BR2's with the 127. It was very good shooting.

Wish I could find RL17,

Same here!


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Originally Posted by 338rcm
What velocities are you guys seeing with 6.5 Staball and 140s?

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I tried running hotter (book max), but groups were not as good.


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Originally Posted by JPro
I’ve got a few boxes of 127s on the shelf and a bunch of RL17 and Big Game. How are speeds?

I wouldn't expect more than 2,800 fps with those powders. Probably good accuracy though. I don't fool around with going over book max. Check StaBall 6.5, if you want a little more speed. I've found pretty good accuracy with that powder as well.


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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
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Originally Posted by 338rcm
What velocities are you guys seeing with 6.5 Staball and 140s?

Staball 6.5 is basically my substitute for H4350 when I'm hoarding H4350 for other projects.

From the 22" barrel the 143 ELD-X flies 2,613 fps using 41.7 grains of H4350. Using Staball 6.5 I fill just about 1/2 grain more to reach equal MVs and group sizes.


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Originally Posted by 338rcm
What is your prefered powder with 140 grain bullets. R26 excluded

H4350, IMR 4451, RL17, StaBall 6.5. First among them in H4350.

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Originally Posted by PintsofCraft
I’m on the Ramshot Hunter train and have been very happy.

I’ve been wanting to try Hunter in my Fieldcraft with 140 Accubonds. I’m interested in hearing about your loads?

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My 18.5" fieldcraft likes viht n555 with 140 & 147 gr eld-m's.


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