Absolutely, there ended up being some bartering, I ended up trading a Winchester XPR in 243 with 2 boxes of ammo for the 94AE and 4 boxes of ammo, 2 x winchester 180s and 2 x Hornady Leverevolution. I like it so far other than the crappy trigger.
I added a Leupold VXII in 3 x 9 x 40 I had laying around, some sling swivels and the ammo buttstock cheek riser. It does real well with the scope. Played with some bullets and was pretty impressed with the factory 180's and the Hornadys did well too. Ordered a 3 die set from Lee with the crimp die a shell holder and some 170 grain Speer SPFNs I have 60 x loose brass (Winchester) Powders CFE 223, IMR 4064, RL-15 and W-760 for mid burners.
You posted the picture of you bullets somewhere else but I cannot find it now. What were they shot into?
On the Beartooth forum search for seattleroadwr and .30 lever maximum. This wildcat overcame the sticky extraction issues in the Marlin 336. Gunsmith Nonneman made the rifle. With the FTX bullet seattleroadwr saw similar results to mine on deer.
The FTX bullet designed for the .308ME worked fine. We both saw hair blown off around the entrance wound. The FTX bullets tends to wad up but still penetrates well. Not much to criticize except that it required a modified magazine follower for smooth feeding of the last round in the magazine.
I posted a picture of at least one entrance wound on Beartooth and on the campfire. Apparently we were the only two hunters who noticed this.
I look forward to reading about your shooting results.
You posted the picture of you bullets somewhere else but I cannot find it now. What were they shot into?
On the Beartooth forum search for seattleroadwr and .30 lever maximum. This wildcat overcame the sticky extraction issues in the Marlin 336. Gunsmith Nonneman made the rifle. With the FTX bullet seattleroadwr saw similar results to mine on deer.
The FTX bullet designed for the .308ME worked fine. We both saw hair blown off around the entrance wound. The FTX bullets tends to wad up but still penetrates well. Not much to criticize except that it required a modified magazine follower for smooth feeding of the last round in the magazine.
I posted a picture of at least one entrance wound on Beartooth and on the campfire. Apparently we were the only two hunters who noticed this.
I look forward to reading about your shooting results.
The bullets were shot into wet newspaper @ 90 yards not perfect but the testing is equal.
IMR 4064 and Varget is what I have been using under a 160gr FTX bullet, this has produced very well for me in my rifle. Shot a couple great bucks and a Moose with mine.
I had a .307 & a Marlin .356. The Winchester was plenty accurate. I used .308 for the round in the chamber & .307 ammo for the magazine. (all handloads) Pretty darn accurate. I gor into a business deal that sucked up a lot of cash & sold them both. I killed a number of deer with the .307. It performed great. The .Winchester had a stiff action & were pretty accurate.
I don't want to change the direction of this thread but.... The 200 grain RCBS gas check bullet is the cheapest way to get into a cast bullet that works well in the Winchester rifles. Next is the NOE 225 grain. Ranch Dog also had a 200 grain bullet which worked well. This one may be available from NOE. Rcbs 200gR.
Reloading time, CCI 200 score, 100 rounds of Hornady brass, and Speer 170 grain FN bullets....and some reloader 15 for now (also have 4064, Varget, and CFE 223) one of those should work.
Reloading time, CCI 200 score, 100 rounds of Hornady brass, and Speer 170 grain FN bullets....and some reloader 15 for now (also have 4064, Varget, and CFE 223) one of those should work.
Reloading time, CCI 200 score, 100 rounds of Hornady brass, and Speer 170 grain FN bullets....and some reloader 15 for now (also have 4064, Varget, and CFE 223) one of those should work.
I just cannot add a picture to a thread from the picture hosting page. I'll work on it. Here is a picture from Imgur using Winchester brass. I'll draw it up using Hornady Brass.
Using Winchester brass with the Speer 170 grain bullet seated .485" in the case you have a COL of 2.55" (.535"outsde the case). This leaves you room for 40.1 grains of IMR 4064 - Uncompressed. It can be a challenge to get the 42.0 grain maximum load into the case,seat the bullet and get it crimped. You can do it. The Lee hand press helps as you can turn the cartridge upside down as you seat the bullet. Anyway, you have a good selection of powders and should have no trouble getting a good hunting load.
We tried the 180 grain which was a mistake. We should have tried the 150 grain. The problem with both bullets is they taper rapidly above the crimp groove. This gave us problems crimping. It was not a big test as there were bullets better suited to the case then and today we have even better options.
I seem to remember that WyoHunter or ColoHunter looked into the Mag Tips more than we did. I was not able to locate their threads on this.