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Now, win the rifle! Sounds like you have good plan.

I don't have the experience that RST and Phil have, but I've always been partial to bullets (in any caliber) in the upper half of the weight range. Just seem to work better than the lighter, hair-on-fire stuff for my hunting purposes.


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Originally Posted by colorado
I don't plan to hunt with the corelokts just use them to test out how the rifle likes 175g spitzers. After that I plan to shoot A-Frames. I prefer them to the Barnes TSX's in general on North American game. They always expand, they always penetrate and they always retain 90% or more of their weight. Here's a 300g A-Frame fired from a 375 H&H that impacted a 900 lb brown bear at 13 yards. Still weighs 299.5g after penetrating the bear diagonally from just behind the right shoulder, bullet found in the hide of his left thigh.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/5NwQ1PZ.jpg?3[/img]

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Your rational is flawed 2 diameter cup and cores should not be used to compare accuracy based on their weight.


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Originally Posted by colorado
I don't plan to hunt with the corelokts just use them to test out how the rifle likes 175g spitzers. After that I plan to shoot A-Frames. I prefer them to the Barnes TSX's in general on North American game. They always expand, they always penetrate and they always retain 90% or more of their weight. Here's a 300g A-Frame fired from a 375 H&H that impacted a 900 lb brown bear at 13 yards. Still weighs 299.5g after penetrating the bear diagonally from just behind the right shoulder, bullet found in the hide of his left thigh.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/5NwQ1PZ.jpg?3[/img]

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Thats better. Your results almost totally mirror all the tsx/ttsx I've seen. Never failure to expand. almost always retain upper 90s if not 100 percent weight. 2 just pulled from brown bears after traversing length were perfect expansion. And both were 100 percent weight. ITs one reason I'm so sold on them because I've never personally seen any type of failure.

Aframes I have not shot much, we did try to get them to shoot in a 30-06 of a friend and they were accurate enough and seemed to do just what you say. I"d be comfortable with that.

What I recommend is due to what I"ve seen. Had I seen frames in use I maybe could comment. Switched to barnes about the time tsx came out to improve over the X. I've never seen a need to look any further.

Best of luck!


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Thanks! I've only shot a cow elk at 225 yards and 450 lb feral hog at 8 feet with my 500 Jeffery using a 570g TSX. The TSX opened up well on the cow elk who died instantly not too much meat damage. The hog the bullet entered between the eyes, leaving the right ham with a desert plate sized exit wound. Shattered his spine and his insides were liquified, not much meat left. If I could figure out how to post pictures here with imgur i would.


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I killed my first moose in ak with a tang ruger in 7mmremmag using 175gr factory corelokts. One shot at about 50 yards. Bear were also in the area. If I were hunting moose today I'd use partitions or one of the mono bullets available in factory ammo.
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Originally Posted by rost495
corelokts have been known to jacket core separate over the years. FWIW.

Just gonna say that Big Green makes the "Core-Lokt Ultra Bonded" bullet nowadays. Don't think it will exhibit core/jacket separations. I'm sitting on a pile of .30 cal / 180 gr bullets. Have not tried any yet in my .30-06. In 7mm they make a 140 gr. bonded bullet which IMHO is on the light side of things.

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Originally Posted by MuskegMan
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corelokts have been known to jacket core separate over the years. FWIW.

Just gonna say that Big Green makes the "Core-Lokt Ultra Bonded" bullet nowadays. Don't think it will exhibit core/jacket separations. I'm sitting on a pile of .30 cal / 180 gr bullets. Have not tried any yet in my .30-06. In 7mm they make a 140 gr. bonded bullet which IMHO is on the light side of things.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1010518699?pid=695844
Without a serious runner-up, the core-lokt bullets I have run over the Juenke have proved to be the least concentric of all and by a HUGE margin. I have also shot a number of critters with them and would never consider them for anything beyond plinking.


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I love the 150 BT at 280 speeds. I’m sure it be fine with another 150 or whatever FPS.

Other factory loads I’d want to try,
160 Trophy bonded tip
160 Accubond
140TTSX

Lots of choices!


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Originally Posted by MadMooner
I love the 150 BT at 280 speeds

Dober used to rave about the 150 BT at Mashburn speeds FWIW.


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Originally Posted by nyrifleman
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I love the 150 BT at 280 speeds

Dober used to rave about the 150 BT at Mashburn speeds FWIW.

I consider Mark a friend. But I’ve seen those bullets come completely unglued out of the Mashburn. The results were dramatic however.

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Originally Posted by MadMooner
I love the 150 BT at 280 speeds. I’m sure it be fine with another 150 or whatever FPS.

Other factory loads I’d want to try,
160 Trophy bonded tip
160 Accubond
140TTSX

Lots of choices!
Those three should work.

I know more about the 160 NAB out of the 7RM per my bud’s Africa experience. He’s a fan.

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The 160 gr Accubond is my go to bullet for my 7mm Rem mag. I have used it on multiple elk hunts in grizzly country in my home state of Montana, on caribou hunts in several Canadian provinces, and on hunts in Africa.

If I would specifically hunt a grizzly, brown bear, or moose in Alaska I would use my .300 Wby or .375 RUM, but I would not hesitate to use my 7mm RM for any other hunts in Alaska.


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Reply thanks! If i use factory ammunition I think I will go with the Swift 160g A-Frames. My plan is to reload 175g A-Frames at around 2900 fps.


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Don't overlook the Federal Terminal Ascent. The 7mm Rem Mag offering from Federal Premium only comes in 155 gr however.

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I used a 7RM on three fairly long trips for plains game. The most wicked wounds were produced by the 175 NP semi spitzers which Dober supplied. They created more havoc than anything I have used or seen used. Only at 375 H&H level is there a discernible difference.

Nothing new because George Hoffman had written about his experience with that load at least 20 years before I tried it. For those who didn’t know, Hoffman was a PH in Africa for many years and developed what became the 416 Rem. He used a 7 RM with the 175’s to the base of the case neck.

I prefer really light rifles, like 6.5#, and after many days and shots I found my shooting ability headed the wrong direction. It gradually wore me down. No big deal on a western NA hunt where a couple of shots is all I have ever needed. But firing three or four boxes over the course of a trip was too much for me.

I “settled” on a 270/280.

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I volunteer to shoot a brown bear in heavy cover with a 7 RM loaded with 175 NP semi spitzers if someone will sponsor/finance my trip.
I will continue to do so until I get eaten by a bear.



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Originally Posted by RinB
I volunteer to shoot a brown bear in heavy cover with a 7 RM loaded with 175 NP semi spitzers if someone will sponsor/finance my trip.
I will continue to do so until I get eaten by a bear.

I just happen to know a guide


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Originally Posted by 458Win
Originally Posted by RinB
I volunteer to shoot a brown bear in heavy cover with a 7 RM loaded with 175 NP semi spitzers if someone will sponsor/finance my trip.
I will continue to do so until I get eaten by a bear.

I just happen to know a guide



LOL I'll bet you do! grin


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Originally Posted by RinB
I volunteer to shoot a brown bear in heavy cover with a 7 RM loaded with 175 NP semi spitzers if someone will sponsor/finance my trip.
I will continue to do so until I get eaten by a bear.

Sounds good to me RinB hell I'd even donate a part box of 175 gr trophy bonded Bear Claws if you think they would work better..mb


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Originally Posted by RinB
I volunteer to shoot a brown bear in heavy cover with a 7 RM loaded with 175 NP semi spitzers if someone will sponsor/finance my trip.
I will continue to do so until I get eaten by a bear.

I’ll start a go fund me. :-)

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