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.........Sheep numbers down, Caribou numbers down, deer down, as well as Moose in many areas, are the bears soon to follow ? I don’t pretend to have an answer or know why but it’s scary. ........

Hunting pressure and climate. We used to shoot any bull moose in what is today the city limits of Wasilla. We used to shoot any bull in what is today Kinkaid Park. Those days are gone........forever. ADFG can't fix that.

But here's an idea: repeal the PFD. Within six months, at least 20% of the resident population disappears, and they will be the precise residents we need gone, too.
That segment coming for the PFD lack the resources to leave...


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Originally Posted by ironbender
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BINGO!

Both the response and the reason for short funds!!!


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Kodiak is hard to figure. We were down toward the south end as well, but saw plenty of deer and did well. 10 miles further south as the crow flies, where we normally hunt, seems like they were doing pretty poorly. I think there are so many variables it's hard know what's going on with the populations locally.

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Originally Posted by Snowwolfe
Interesting thoughts about the creeks freezing but I don't accept it. I have hunted Kodiak roughly 12 times beginning 1985. All our trips were roughly 7 days long where we camped on shore on the upper half of the island. Most of these trips were in December. There is freshwater coming up from underground springs everywhere. We never once had a difficult time finding fresh water for our needs. There is water everywhere, and I mean everywhere.
I will say IMO the hunting in the late 1980's and early 90's were the best. Shooting 4-5 nice bucks during the week was easy and many forks were passed up. I remember one sunny afternoon in 85 or 86 when the wife and I climbed to about 2,000 feet and started glassing. We found over a dozen decent bucks in a 500 yard circle around us. After that period we noticed a gradual slowdown in the deer population.
Hunting pressure? Lack of food? Maybe a little of either.
But lack of unfrozen water? No way.
7 days. 12 times. In December. You should be a biologist for the islands deer then.


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Interesting thoughts about the creeks freezing but I don't accept it. I have hunted Kodiak roughly 12 times beginning 1985. All our trips were roughly 7 days long where we camped on shore on the upper half of the island. Most of these trips were in December. There is freshwater coming up from underground springs everywhere. We never once had a difficult time finding fresh water for our needs. There is water everywhere, and I mean everywhere.
I will say IMO the hunting in the late 1980's and early 90's were the best. Shooting 4-5 nice bucks during the week was easy and many forks were passed up. I remember one sunny afternoon in 85 or 86 when the wife and I climbed to about 2,000 feet and started glassing. We found over a dozen decent bucks in a 500 yard circle around us. After that period we noticed a gradual slowdown in the deer population.
Hunting pressure? Lack of food? Maybe a little of either.
But lack of unfrozen water? No way.
7 days. 12 times. In December. You should be a biologist for the islands deer then.

Naw, F&G should call Roland at Seahawk air if he is still flying. He flys a lot of hunters in and out and knows how many game bags they have filled, or not.
Deer hunting in Alaska used to be overlooked. We did our first hunt in November 77 at Montaque. Hunting was decent but not anywhere near as good as on Kodiak.


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Originally Posted by Sitka deer
That segment coming for the PFD lack the resources to leave...

How did they get here?


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Originally Posted by Huntster
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That segment coming for the PFD lack the resources to leave...

How did they get here?

They probably found some public assistance... or someone thought it worthwhile to get them gone from where they were.


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Originally Posted by ironbender
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DOH !!!

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Originally Posted by Huntster
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That segment coming for the PFD lack the resources to leave...

How did they get here?

It would seem counterintuitive to me to take on the burden of Alaska's appreciably higher cost of living for an average of about $1500 per person per year.

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Originally Posted by Sitka deer
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That segment coming for the PFD lack the resources to leave...

How did they get here?

They probably found some public assistance... or someone thought it worthwhile to get them gone from where they were.

Yup. And my bet is that if you cut the freebies, they'll go elsewhere, especially by the following mid-winter. And it might be wise to cut that waste before the Migrant World figures this scam out.

The Permanent Fund was set up several years after the first Norway Government Pension Fund. The second Norway Government Pension Fund Global, set up in 1990, now owns 1.5% of the world's listed companies in all markets. They don't hand out drinking money to anybody with a heartbeat. They invest it.

Daddy used to say that it wasn't so much how much you earned, but what you did with it that counts. Throwing big annual parties helps the liquor store owner, but it doesn't do so much for your future........unless you enjoy hangovers........


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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
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That segment coming for the PFD lack the resources to leave...

How did they get here?

It would seem counterintuitive to me to take on the burden of Alaska's appreciably higher cost of living for an average of about $1500 per person per year.
PFD monies do not attract the sharpest folks. They do not recognize the higher cost of living before coming.

I was on a Murder trial jury about 20 years ago. A 260# Pacific island bodybuilder (getting enough to eat) baby shaker, youngest of 19 kids. Four adults came with the kids.


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Originally Posted by Huntster
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That segment coming for the PFD lack the resources to leave...

How did they get here?

They probably found some public assistance... or someone thought it worthwhile to get them gone from where they were.

Yup. And my bet is that if you cut the freebies, they'll go elsewhere, especially by the following mid-winter. And it might be wise to cut that waste before the Migrant World figures this scam out.

The Permanent Fund was set up several years after the first Norway Government Pension Fund. The second Norway Government Pension Fund Global, set up in 1990, now owns 1.5% of the world's listed companies in all markets. They don't hand out drinking money to anybody with a heartbeat. They invest it.

Daddy used to say that it wasn't so much how much you earned, but what you did with it that counts. Throwing big annual parties helps the liquor store owner, but it doesn't do so much for your future........unless you enjoy hangovers........
Cannot argue your point, but I do see the wisdom in Hammond's position that the people must have skin in the game or the fund will be burnt in a heartbeat.


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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
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That segment coming for the PFD lack the resources to leave...

How did they get here?

It would seem counterintuitive to me to take on the burden of Alaska's appreciably higher cost of living for an average of about $1500 per person per year.
They’re not here on scholarships.


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Originally Posted by Snowwolfe
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Originally Posted by Snowwolfe
Interesting thoughts about the creeks freezing but I don't accept it. I have hunted Kodiak roughly 12 times beginning 1985. All our trips were roughly 7 days long where we camped on shore on the upper half of the island. Most of these trips were in December. There is freshwater coming up from underground springs everywhere. We never once had a difficult time finding fresh water for our needs. There is water everywhere, and I mean everywhere.
I will say IMO the hunting in the late 1980's and early 90's were the best. Shooting 4-5 nice bucks during the week was easy and many forks were passed up. I remember one sunny afternoon in 85 or 86 when the wife and I climbed to about 2,000 feet and started glassing. We found over a dozen decent bucks in a 500 yard circle around us. After that period we noticed a gradual slowdown in the deer population.
Hunting pressure? Lack of food? Maybe a little of either.
But lack of unfrozen water? No way.
7 days. 12 times. In December. You should be a biologist for the islands deer then.

Naw, F&G should call Roland at Seahawk air if he is still flying. He flys a lot of hunters in and out and knows how many game bags they have filled, or not.
Deer hunting in Alaska used to be overlooked. We did our first hunt in November 77 at Montaque. Hunting was decent but not anywhere near as good as on Kodiak.

thats for sure a plan. find out how many deer where shot. It solves the whole problem pretty quickly....


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Originally Posted by ironbender
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Originally Posted by Sitka deer
That segment coming for the PFD lack the resources to leave...

How did they get here?

It would seem counterintuitive to me to take on the burden of Alaska's appreciably higher cost of living for an average of about $1500 per person per year.
They’re not here on scholarships.

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Originally Posted by Sitka deer
......... I do see the wisdom in Hammond's position that the people must have skin in the game or the fund will be burnt in a heartbeat.

It was a great sale, mostly by Dick Randolph, an ardent socialist. But it's pretty easy to get votes on free money, especially when you were poor and suddenly won the lottery. And it was a very true forecast: putting an end to the PFD will spark a small revolution. In economic terms, we call that a ratchet effect; it freely goes one way, but the other requires muscle.

Like your story about the huge family showing up, I knew of one like it: our church was looking for a family to put up a new arrival family immediately after the first PFD payout. They had arrived from Tennessee with ten kids without having bothered to learn that they wouldn't qualify to even apply until having lived here for a year. It was my first clue on how bad a political policy it was. It attracts precisely the wrong folks, and holds them here longer than Alaska needs them. And these are not the ideal times for such a policy, what with illegal immigration being a worldwide issue.


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A friend got back from Kodiak last weekend, fly in, drop off hunt, 2 hunters tent camping.
Shot 3 deer, bears got all of them.

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Originally Posted by johnn
A friend got back from Kodiak last weekend, fly in, drop off hunt, 2 hunters tent camping.
Shot 3 deer, bears got all of them.


Sounds like Afognak


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Originally Posted by johnn
A friend got back from Kodiak last weekend, fly in, drop off hunt, 2 hunters tent camping.
Shot 3 deer, bears got all of them.

In a situation like this would ADF&G reissue the deer tags? I think I know the answer and I’m only hoping I don’t get laughed at for asking it in the first place but since you can’t shoot the offending bear according to ADF&G it seems like they would almost “have” to reissue the tags they required you to “burn”? 🙄


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