24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,694
Likes: 4
H
Campfire Regular
OP Offline
Campfire Regular
H
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,694
Likes: 4
Can someone share the Special requirements for owning a Suppressor throughout Europe? Anything like our US registration and tax stamp process. Are you discouraged from owning a firearm suppressor to protect the hearing of the shooter & bystanders?

Is the hearing protection discouragement common on the other side of the pond or is this just a United states thing?


love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control

& Proverbs 21:19
GB1

Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 345
Likes: 6
T
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
T
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 345
Likes: 6
Originally Posted by Hunterapp
Can someone share the Special requirements for owning a Suppressor throughout Europe? Anything like our US registration and tax stamp process. Are you discouraged from owning a firearm suppressor to protect the hearing of the shooter & bystanders?

Is the hearing protection discouragement common on the other side of the pond or is this just a United states thing?

I can only speak to the UK. The UK equivalent to OSHA (Health and Safety Executive) essentially have a policy that reads if you are employed to use a firearm in your daily job (gamekeeper, ghillie etc) your employer must take steps to ensure your hearing is protected as far as is reasonably practicable. Ergo, using a suppressor. When I got my first firearms license in 1985, the cops virtually insisted I apply for a can for my .22. Suppressor use and ownership there is normal, expected and relatively simple. Its one of the few things about the UK I miss and that they got right.

My buddy has a suppressor manufacturing business in Germany and he's doing very well so I'm guessing its not that hard in mainland Europe either. Finland both makes and sells a ton of cans so probably not that difficult there. Only in the US could you get hammered on pricing for items that elsewhere are simply disposable, just like a rifle barrel so are much less expensive.

1 member likes this: Frog4aday
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,694
Likes: 4
H
Campfire Regular
OP Offline
Campfire Regular
H
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,694
Likes: 4
Hope to hear from others despite the thorough view of perceived expectations and use of supressors on the other side of the pond. May I ask what kind of taxes or disincentive is there for protecting the hearing with the use of a supressor?


love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control

& Proverbs 21:19
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 5,811
Likes: 3
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 5,811
Likes: 3
For Germany, the last 15 years have brought positive change regarding suppressors for hunters. German gun laws now class them "like" the firearm it is meant to go with. If you can own and use the rifle, you can own and use the suppressor.

The disincentives really have been done away with and here is a toast to that.


Member of the Merry Band of turdlike People.



Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 7,361
Likes: 72
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 7,361
Likes: 72
I just began the process for my 4th today, $200 for the tax stamp and another $100 for the FFL transfer fee on top of the actual price for the can. Don't think I'll be buying anymore (maybe a .22) but I don't want to hunt with out one anymore, just makes the shooting process much more enjoyable and hardly disturbs game animals. The thing that mostly gets me is that it's a simply muffler on the end of your barrel, nothing more or less. It's not "silent", just not as loud as without. I think movies have given people the wrong idea about silencers. The fact that a simple muffler cost $1,000 more or less, all-in, is just ridiculous if you ask me but that's our gov't at work!

IC B2

Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 12,968
Likes: 74
O
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
O
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 12,968
Likes: 74
Originally Posted by the_gman
Originally Posted by Hunterapp
Can someone share the Special requirements for owning a Suppressor throughout Europe? Anything like our US registration and tax stamp process. Are you discouraged from owning a firearm suppressor to protect the hearing of the shooter & bystanders?

Is the hearing protection discouragement common on the other side of the pond or is this just a United states thing?

I can only speak to the UK. The UK equivalent to OSHA (Health and Safety Executive) essentially have a policy that reads if you are employed to use a firearm in your daily job (gamekeeper, ghillie etc) your employer must take steps to ensure your hearing is protected as far as is reasonably practicable. Ergo, using a suppressor. When I got my first firearms license in 1985, the cops virtually insisted I apply for a can for my .22. Suppressor use and ownership there is normal, expected and relatively simple. Its one of the few things about the UK I miss and that they got right.

My buddy has a suppressor manufacturing business in Germany and he's doing very well so I'm guessing its not that hard in mainland Europe either. Finland both makes and sells a ton of cans so probably not that difficult there. Only in the US could you get hammered on pricing for items that elsewhere are simply disposable, just like a rifle barrel so are much less expensive.

Picked up a gun rag to pass time while working in the U.K. in the 1990's. Was totally floored to see this ^^^^^ sentiment espoused in the various writings. Essentially, using a suppressor was described as the "polite thing to do..."



Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 217
Likes: 2
R
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
R
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 217
Likes: 2
From memory, back in the 1980s and 1990s it was very difficult to get a full bore suppressor at all / legally on firearms licence. .22RF, yes but no full bore.

This started to change and rapidly in the 1990s due to health and safety at work legislation involving forestry commission type workers suing employers etc over hearing loss. Also big issue in the UK military upto that date.

I would really like those police tactical hearing aid size ear protection - one way Val e. You can bear asleep the normal sounds until the gun is discharged. On range I wear eye muffs cans.

Joined: Jun 2024
Posts: 2
Likes: 1
T
New Member
Offline
New Member
T
Joined: Jun 2024
Posts: 2
Likes: 1
Sold over-the-counter in Norway and it's becoming rare to see a non-silenced rifle.


6,5x55 - the world's most underrated LR cartridge
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 18,593
Likes: 16
R
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
R
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 18,593
Likes: 16
Killed a buck a week ago with a 21" 06 and 185 lapua mega. First deer in a couple years without a suppressor and my god!!!! I can't do that anymore without hearing protection.


Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.

Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24


610 members (1Longbow, 1OntarioJim, 160user, 222ND, 02bfishn, 17CalFan, 73 invisible), 23,860 guests, and 386 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums82
Topics1,219,838
Posts19,043,137
Members74,743
Most Online26,902
Nov 28th, 2024

×

 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Playwire

Advertise on this site.

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.184s Queries: 33 (0.108s) Memory: 0.8387 MB (Peak: 0.8897 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-12-06 19:53:08 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS