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Then he's a fool. If I'm paying landowner tag prices for a private ranch in NM it's my business what bullet I use.

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Originally Posted by rcamuglia
He won’t allow a customer to hunt with a Barnes bullet


He is clueless.



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They seem erratic


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Originally Posted by rcamuglia
I have a friend who owns a 20,000 acre ranch in NM who sells Elk tags and has hosted big names in the hunting and shooting industry


He won’t allow a customer to hunt with a Barnes bullet

I’m curious about your experience with them

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Originally Posted by Swampman700
They seem erratic

Based on what exactly?

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I don't have the numbers some of you guys have with them. TTSX bullets have always done the job very well for me. Accurate with excellent terminal performance in examples of Wisconsin WT deer.


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Originally Posted by Swampman700
They seem erratic

Would like to know the examples you've seen--and when you saw them.

I started using Barnes Xs in 1989, but did find them somewhat erratic--the reason my wife and I used far more Fail Safes during the 1990s, which worked very consistently. But Randy Brooks kept improving the Xs, and in our experience the TTSX solved all the early problems. It appeared 20 years ago....


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Originally Posted by rcamuglia
I have a friend who owns a 20,000 acre ranch in NM who sells Elk tags and has hosted big names in the hunting and shooting industry


He won’t allow a customer to hunt with a Barnes bullet


I know a ranch manager in NW Colorado. They are telling their hunters not to bring ammo with ELD-X bullets! Told me they had more lost animals with those bullets the 3 or 4 years before than the previous 10. Now they recommend Partitions, Accubonds or Barnes bullets! I guess it’s all about your experience!

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Originally Posted by elkcountry
Originally Posted by rcamuglia
I have a friend who owns a 20,000 acre ranch in NM who sells Elk tags and has hosted big names in the hunting and shooting industry


He won’t allow a customer to hunt with a Barnes bullet


I know a ranch manager in NW Colorado. They have told their hunters, for the last couple of years, to NOT bring ammo with ELD-X bullets! Told me they had more lost animals with those bullets the 3 or 4 years before then the precious 10. Now they recommend Partitions, Accubonds or Barnes bullets! I guess it’s all about your experience!

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Problem is a huge percentage of hunters have longrange'itus- they use ELD-X/Berger type bullets then shoot a mule deer at 120 yards.


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Originally Posted by ol_mike
Originally Posted by elkcountry
Originally Posted by rcamuglia
I have a friend who owns a 20,000 acre ranch in NM who sells Elk tags and has hosted big names in the hunting and shooting industry


He won’t allow a customer to hunt with a Barnes bullet


I know a ranch manager in NW Colorado. They have told their hunters, for the last couple of years, to NOT bring ammo with ELD-X bullets! Told me they had more lost animals with those bullets the 3 or 4 years before then the precious 10. Now they recommend Partitions, Accubonds or Barnes bullets! I guess it’s all about your experience!

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Problem is a huge percentage of hunters have longrange'itus- they use ELD-X/Berger type bullets then shoot a mule deer at 120 yards.

Then what happens?

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Originally Posted by elkcountry
Originally Posted by rcamuglia
I have a friend who owns a 20,000 acre ranch in NM who sells Elk tags and has hosted big names in the hunting and shooting industry


He won’t allow a customer to hunt with a Barnes bullet


I know a ranch manager in NW Colorado. They have told their hunters, for the last couple of years, to NOT bring ammo with ELD-X bullets! Told me they had more lost animals with those bullets the 3 or 4 years before than the previous 10. Now they recommend Partitions, Accubonds or Barnes bullets! I guess it’s all about your experience!

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I'll never use ELD-X's after what I saw in Newfoundland.

I was just talking to a friend past weekend. The guy that he guides for in NW Colorado banned 6.5 Creeds this past season. Said they're getting more lost animals since guys started showing up with them. Probably more about the bullets than the cartridge.

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Originally Posted by Teeder
Originally Posted by elkcountry
Originally Posted by rcamuglia
I have a friend who owns a 20,000 acre ranch in NM who sells Elk tags and has hosted big names in the hunting and shooting industry


He won’t allow a customer to hunt with a Barnes bullet


I know a ranch manager in NW Colorado. They have told their hunters, for the last couple of years, to NOT bring ammo with ELD-X bullets! Told me they had more lost animals with those bullets the 3 or 4 years before than the previous 10. Now they recommend Partitions, Accubonds or Barnes bullets! I guess it’s all about your experience!

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I'll never use ELD-X's after what I saw in Newfoundland.

I was just talking to a friend past weekend. The guy that he guides for in NW Colorado banned 6.5 Creeds this past season. Said they're getting more lost animals since guys started showing up with them. Probably more about the bullets than the cartridge.
But probably still allows a 6.5 Swede.


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Originally Posted by RHM
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Originally Posted by elkcountry
Originally Posted by rcamuglia
I have a friend who owns a 20,000 acre ranch in NM who sells Elk tags and has hosted big names in the hunting and shooting industry


He won’t allow a customer to hunt with a Barnes bullet


I know a ranch manager in NW Colorado. They have told their hunters, for the last couple of years, to NOT bring ammo with ELD-X bullets! Told me they had more lost animals with those bullets the 3 or 4 years before then the precious 10. Now they recommend Partitions, Accubonds or Barnes bullets! I guess it’s all about your experience!

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Problem is a huge percentage of hunters have longrange'itus- they use ELD-X/Berger type bullets then shoot a mule deer at 120 yards.

Then what happens?


In my experience the deer falls down dead.

Same experience for my brother, the deer falls down dead.





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Originally Posted by rcamuglia
I have a friend who owns a 20,000 acre ranch in NM who sells Elk tags and has hosted big names in the hunting and shooting industry


He won’t allow a customer to hunt with a Barnes bullet

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Originally Posted by rcamuglia
I have a friend who owns a 20,000 acre ranch in NM who sells Elk tags and has hosted big names in the hunting and shooting industry


He won’t allow a customer to hunt with a Barnes bullet
What bullet(s) does he allow clients to use?

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Originally Posted by rcamuglia
I have a friend who owns a 20,000 acre ranch in NM who sells Elk tags and has hosted big names in the hunting and shooting industry


He won’t allow a customer to hunt with a Barnes bullet

Then your friend is an idiot.

Sorry, don't know a nice way to put it.

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Originally Posted by tx270
Originally Posted by rcamuglia
I have a friend who owns a 20,000 acre ranch in NM who sells Elk tags and has hosted big names in the hunting and shooting industry


He won’t allow a customer to hunt with a Barnes bullet

Then your friend is an idiot.

Sorry, don't know a nice way to put it.
Must have had a bad experience, blamed the bullet. Would be interesting to hear the story.

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I have seen where all Barnes TTSX bullets don't expand into a mushroom. I'll be trying a different bullet this year. But it'll still be a Barnes, in 175, 190 or 200 LRX. If the bullet doesn't mushroom, I want a exit hole.
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The problem with all bullets is that they have to dance with whomever brought 'em.

Even if who brought 'em can't dance. Solution - blame the bullet.

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Originally Posted by TrueGrit
I have seen where all Barnes TTSX bullets don't expand into a mushroom. I'll be trying a different bullet this year. But it'll still be a Barnes, in 175, 190 or 200 LRX. If the bullet doesn't mushroom, I want a exit hole.
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