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Originally Posted by stxhunter
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Roger, have you had a chance to stick a hog with that one that I sold you, yet ?

I still have its slightly smaller twin I carry when pistol hunting for hogs.

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I was told today that an authentic Bowie sold for about $18,000.00 at the Tulsa gun show earlier this month. I believe the boys at Ledford’s Trading Post in Hickory, N.C. sold it.

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Originally Posted by kaywoodie
My latest "Bowie". A Rio Grande Camp Knife bu Adam Daub up in Maryland. Circa 1850-60. Similar to the one Powell tried to use on Secretary Seward.

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Originally Posted by Leanwolf
Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
" ... Meanwhile the Brits were quietly exporting to here many plain ol utilitarian 5-7” blades, far outnumbering Bowies, referred to as “trade knives” or sometimes “scalping knives” when traded to Indians. I wish there were stats on killings with them vs Bowies. ...

Sheffield mass produced high quality steel so good and so cheap that it wasn’t until the 1840’s that an American manufacturer could compete; Green River (contrary to pop history, the Rocky Mt fur trade was fading fast by then)."

This I. Wilson, Sheffield, England, butcher knife (top of picture) has been in my family since about 1850, according to my late grandmother from whom my mother got it. After my mother died I found it in one of her kitchen drawers so I brought it with me.

It was of the type that the fur trappers used, and also traded to the Indians in the Rocky Mountains.

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It still cuts meat very well, and is easy to sharpen.

The bottom butcher knife was bought by my father back sometime in the mid 1930s. My mother used it almost every day in the kitchen. A very handy and useful general butcher knife.

FWIW.

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Awesome story and picture.
To have and hold a knife your ancestors owned 175 years ago & and your Fathers 90 years is amazing.
Was these knives and family in Arkansas?


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Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Originally Posted by stxhunter
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Roger, have you had a chance to stick a hog with that one that I sold you, yet ?

I still have its slightly smaller twin I carry when pistol hunting for hogs.
No, not yet.


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The incident that made the Bowie Knife famous was mentioned in the video, the Sandbar Fight. It was a duel held on a sandbar in the Mississippi River in 1827 where Bowie was a second to one of the duelists. The sandbar was neutral territory between Louisiana and Mississippi so therefore outside the laws of either state which prohibited dueling. It devolved into a brawl with Bowie using his knife to kill some on the opposing party. The river has changed course several times over the years and now the location is on the Louisiana side of the river, it's known as Giles Island and is a high end hunting preserve. Even though it's on the west side of the river it's still within Mississippi state lines since the line follows the old course of the river.

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I believe his opponent was using a sword cane.

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Ol Mike - " ... LeanWolf , Awesome story and picture.
To have and hold a knife your ancestors owned 175 years ago & and your Fathers 90 years is amazing.
Was these knives and family in Arkansas? "

Yes, Ol Mike. We lived in a small, rural town in north central Arkansas named "Mountain Home." We moved there in Feb. of 1941, from Batesville, and moved to Little Rock in 1957. My brother and his family still live in L.R. I remember great times living in M.H.

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I read where the "trade knives" were sent over by the barrel-full.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
I believe his opponent was using a sword cane.

Yes. And he was shot too, maybe twice. It's a miracle he survived, only to die from malaria in the Alamo. One TV show way back when gave credence to the simple butcher knife. Bowie's hand was badly cut. He's lying in bed designing the iconic Bowie Knife shape with guards. It became a felony to carry one of those things in Arkansas after a brutal fight in the congress that left one man dead and the other severely wounded. The Arkansas Toothpick variety was particularly nasty.

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Beautiful examples. Well done!

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Originally Posted by Crash_Pad
The Arkansas Toothpick variety was particularly nasty.
Halfway between a Medieval dagger and a Roman gladius.

Here's one made by Randall:

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And a much more affordable example:

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Tell Sackett shaved a man with a toothpick. Well, his mustache.


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Originally Posted by Leanwolf
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Ol Mike - " ... LeanWolf , Awesome story and picture.
To have and hold a knife your ancestors owned 175 years ago & and your Fathers 90 years is amazing.
Was these knives and family in Arkansas? "

Yes, Ol Mike. We lived in a small, rural town in north central Arkansas named "Mountain Home." We moved there in Feb. of 1941, from Batesville, and moved to Little Rock in 1957. My brother and his family still live in L.R. I remember great times living in M.H.

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I remember you saying you were from MH, Ar.


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I'm partial to INFI steel....

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Originally Posted by Leanwolf
Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
" ... Meanwhile the Brits were quietly exporting to here many plain ol utilitarian 5-7” blades, far outnumbering Bowies, referred to as “trade knives” or sometimes “scalping knives” when traded to Indians. I wish there were stats on killings with them vs Bowies. ...

Sheffield mass produced high quality steel so good and so cheap that it wasn’t until the 1840’s that an American manufacturer could compete; Green River (contrary to pop history, the Rocky Mt fur trade was fading fast by then)."

This I. Wilson, Sheffield, England, butcher knife (top of picture) has been in my family since about 1850, according to my late grandmother from whom my mother got it. After my mother died I found it in one of her kitchen drawers so I brought it with me.

It was of the type that the fur trappers used, and also traded to the Indians in the Rocky Mountains.

[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]


It still cuts meat very well, and is easy to sharpen.

The bottom butcher knife was bought by my father back sometime in the mid 1930s. My mother used it almost every day in the kitchen. A very handy and useful general butcher knife.

FWIW.

L.W.

Leanwolf! That is a nice Sheffield butcher!!!! Thanks for sharing the pic!!


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Original English Wolstenholm Sheffield I picked up a few months back.

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Originally Posted by stxhunter
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Roger, have you had a chance to stick a hog with that one that I sold you, yet ?

I still have its slightly smaller twin I carry when pistol hunting for hogs.
No, not yet.



Some great knives there, Roger.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Crash_Pad
The Arkansas Toothpick variety was particularly nasty.
Halfway between a Medieval dagger and a Roman gladius.

Here's one made by Randall:

[Linked Image from i.ebayimg.com]

And a much more affordable example:

[Linked Image from i.ebayimg.com]


A friend of mine had a very large Randall collection. he died 2 years ago and I have no idea what happened to the collection.


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Originally Posted by 12344mag
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Crash_Pad
The Arkansas Toothpick variety was particularly nasty.
Halfway between a Medieval dagger and a Roman gladius.

Here's one made by Randall:

[Linked Image from i.ebayimg.com]

And a much more affordable example:

[Linked Image from i.ebayimg.com]


A friend of mine had a very large Randall collection. he died 2 years ago and I have no idea what happened to the collection.



Pawn shop got it, probably.


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