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Unfortunately,my latest NIB Reupold's (MK5 HD and MK4 HD) are steaming piles of fhuqking schit,incapable of tracking and repeating. Hint.

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Originally Posted by Woodhits

No need for any hating. If a scope is adequate for the target sizes and demands of the discipline, what else can be asked of it? Other than reliability.

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No Loops for me thanks. Just a few of the older ones where turret twisting does not really apply.


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1st question being:

"Who's using what?"

is pretty easy to answer.

The follow-up questions of:

"Why do you use that?"

"Are you sponsored and receiving the scopes @ no-charge?"

"Are you heavily discounted Pro-Staff?"

The rest of the gear is the same. Very few shooters in any discipline conduct much research into what's truly "The Best" to meet their needs and instead focus on:

"Who wants to give me stuff free steep discounts? Because, I can make just about anything work."

Good or bad, without sponsors, none of this stuff gets beyond "Club-Level" competition.


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Originally Posted by horse1
1st question being:

"Who's using what?"

is pretty easy to answer.

The follow-up questions of:

"Why do you use that?"

"Are you sponsored and receiving the scopes @ no-charge?"

"Are you heavily discounted Pro-Staff?"

The rest of the gear is the same. Very few shooters in any discipline conduct much research into what's truly "The Best" to meet their needs and instead focus on:

"Who wants to give me stuff free steep discounts? Because, I can make just about anything work."

Good or bad, without sponsors, none of this stuff gets beyond "Club-Level" competition.

I'm not a PRS guy, or any competitions for that matter. If I were though, I think I'd ask a single question: What gear gives me the absolute best chance to win? Carry on with the speculation.........


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If I'm reading it correctly, the following are what the top 10 use:

Tangent Theta - 4 users
Leupold - 2 users
Nightforce - 2 users
US Optics - 1 user
Vortex - 1 user

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“My rifle and my scope have been through a lot over the past two years. They’ve rattled around in trucks going down dirt roads, they’ve gotten tossed around by baggage handlers, they’ve been out in the elements, and they’ve been slammed into rocks and barricades in competition. In that time my Mark 5HD has always held zero, always responded when I’ve dialed it up, and always delivered the crisp, clear image I need to compete. I can’t think of a better testament to the clarity, reliability, and ruggedness of that scope than its continued performance after what I put it through match after match, year after year.”

– Morgun King, 3rd Overall in 2023 PRS Open Division



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Odd how these pro shooters get such different results than people who actually buy Leupold scopes...

We've known for years that quality control varies wildly for different versions of the same model. Remington Police 870 and 11-87 shotguns are nothing like their sporting cousins, and SIG 320 users report far more problems than M-17 users.

Given Leupold's QC woes of the last several years, I'd bet that these competitors get what are essentially hand-built Leupold scopes. I'd also bet that they pay a lot less than what any of us ever would ever have to pay.


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Originally Posted by okie john
Odd how these pro shooters get such different results than people who actually buy Leupold scopes...

We've known for years that quality control varies wildly for different versions of the same model. Remington Police 870 and 11-87 shotguns are nothing like their sporting cousins, and SIG 320 users report far more problems than M-17 users.

Given Leupold's QC woes of the last several years, I'd bet that these competitors get what are essentially hand-built Leupold scopes. I'd also bet that they pay a lot less than what any of us ever would ever have to pay.


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Interesting article, thanks for sharing.

Wondering 1) how many of the top 10 are sponsored and if not, would they use the same scope. 2) Outside of the top 10, how many can afford a $5,000 scope (Tangent Theta) v a $2,000 scope (Leupold). Leupold seems to be the most "affordable" option for those who are on a budget as compared to some of the other choices.

Disclaimer: Lifelong Leupold fan.

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Yes, Leupold is a budget scope alright. LMAO


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totally forgot there's no 'target optics' section...sigh

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That’s cool Curt won SS! Good dude! I guess a buddy of mine won third in the AR division. Incidentally, he was shooting a night force ATACR.


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Originally Posted by stinkycoyote
totally forgot there's no 'target optics' section...sigh


You do realize that what happens in PRS influences some of the hunting market, yes?


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In my time shooting local single day PRS matches in VA and NC the overwhelming choice of scope was Vortex. Those with better budgets ran the Razors, those with smaller budgets ran the Vipers. The outliers ran NF and upper shelf Leupold. Never met a sponsored shooter at any of the matches I attended, except two dudes shooting a partner match (not PRS) in NC...but they were Hornady sponsored and from out west somewhere.


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Originally Posted by okie john
Odd how these pro shooters get such different results than people who actually buy Leupold scopes...

We've known for years that quality control varies wildly for different versions of the same model. Remington Police 870 and 11-87 shotguns are nothing like their sporting cousins, and SIG 320 users report far more problems than M-17 users.

Given Leupold's QC woes of the last several years, I'd bet that these competitors get what are essentially hand-built Leupold scopes. I'd also bet that they pay a lot less than what any of us ever would ever have to pay.


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Interesting article, thanks for sharing.

Wondering 1) how many of the top 10 are sponsored and if not, would they use the same scope. 2) Outside of the top 10, how many can afford a $5,000 scope (Tangent Theta) v a $2,000 scope (Leupold). Leupold seems to be the most "affordable" option for those who are on a budget as compared to some of the other choices.

Disclaimer: Lifelong Leupold fan.

“We designed the PR2 reticles to excel in competition,” said John Snodgrass, Tactical Product Line Manager for Leupold. “We worked with Morgun King, Jon Pynch, Nick Gadarzi, and other top competitors from around the country to make sure it’s exactly what they needed."

Brand aside, being involved in the design certainly influences your likelihood as a shooter and competitor to use and back the product. The same was seen with George Gardner and the Bushnell Elite Tactical scopes. Nothing wrong with that, but it introduces some bias.

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Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Yes, Leupold is a budget scope alright. LMAO

Compared to a scope that costs $5-6k, the #2 or #1, depending on how you look at the data, yes!

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Yes it is a budget scope? It’s built like a budget scope too.


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Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Yes it is a budget scope? It’s built like a budget scope too.

Well, I like mine but I don't do much dialing...

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