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Again, parallax or technique issues. While I like to think otherwise, my techniques gets additional consideration when I'm really trying to reach out.
Once slugs begin to diverge they will never ever subsequently converge even if there is a stability issue as they exit the muzzle. Then there are folks aound that still think the world is flat.
Can't remember who, but there is someone about that is willing to take on the sows ear turning into the silk purse down range. I've not heard of anyone having to pay up yet. To be proven, one needs a series of optical or acoustical targets down range to assess accuracy/precision across ranges for the same string. One can not compare separate strings fired at a different ranges as they are independent events.
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Applied physics is for classes, applied shots at various distances will show what is really going on. OceanBlue is 100 % right, my old bench rest target shooter friend said the same thing. my 257 Weatherby shoots 3/4 inch with just a little keyhole, but at 200 yards bullet holes are perfect and under 3/4 inch groups ,300 yards 1 inch or less. me and some other shooters figure because my 257 Weather mag. is shooting very fast it takes a little longer for the bullet to stabilize. Here`s a question about reloading most of the new reloading books have a few grains less powder maximum loads than the older books. yes I understand there are newer better ways to test pressures,but nobody who handloaded with the older reloading manuals ever had trouble if they followed the old manual maximums . so why then is it liability ? new rifles are not built as well " and it almost appears that way" ? I know my old Winchester model 70`s pre 64,old Sako`s and my Ruger no.1`s seem to handle maximum loads way better too,so I kinda feel the new rifles are just not as strongly built or barrel-reciever medal is not as hard ?
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Applied physics is for classes, applied shots at various distances will show what is really going on. OceanBlue is 100 % right, my old bench rest target shooter friend said the same thing. my 257 Weatherby shoots 3/4 inch with just a little keyhole, but at 200 yards bullet holes are perfect and under 3/4 inch groups ,300 yards 1 inch or less. me and some other shooters figure because my 257 Weather mag. is shooting very fast it takes a little longer for the bullet to stabilize. Here`s a question about reloading most of the new reloading books have a few grains less powder maximum loads than the older books. yes I understand there are newer better ways to test pressures,but nobody who handloaded with the older reloading manuals ever had trouble if they followed the old manual maximums . so why then is it liability ? new rifles are not built as well " and it almost appears that way" ? I know my old Winchester model 70`s pre 64,old Sako`s and my Ruger no.1`s seem to handle maximum loads way better too,so I kinda feel the new rifles are just not as strongly built or barrel-reciever medal is not as hard ? All of this is just No.
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Are we still talking about this?
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I sure didn't realize it was three months old. Sorry about that.
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3 months old, this thread is 11 years old!!
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My 1K BR rifle has shot a best of 5/8" at 100 yds. It's best 1000 yd group is 3.5," and it has shot several 4" or better. It's not uncommon at all for long, high BC bullets to moa better at longer ranges. Except no one has ever proven that's true,
One shot, one kill........ It saves a lot of ammo!
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I think I remember somebody saying to our ownself be true however.
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