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Did anyone listen to any of the audio of the court proceedings?
Its rather long and I just listened to part's of it.
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The issue with this one is the operator of the boat wasn’t a captain. This was not a paid charter. Yes it could have been operator error, but again this was a “friend” deal.
If you go on a “friend” deal, you are assuming the risk imo. You go on a charter, the charter/captain assumes the risk.
On a semi related note, Petersburg is petitioning the state to require some sort of boaters certification for rental boats. Lots of DSMR renting boats these days in AK with absolutely no clue as to many things boat related. Curious if it goes anywhere.
I have seen some crazy [bleep] from rental boats in my area. My favorite this season was when two rental boats pulled up and started fishing INSIDE of a seine net. Let’s just say some not so kind words were said on the radio.
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Agreed, "captain" was applied loosely, typically whoever happens to be the operator, in this case it was Weston, using the family boat. I believe it belonged to his grandfather.
He was IMO the responsible individual for the boat and parties aboard.
Did you have a chance to listen to any of the testimony?
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The issue with this one is the operator of the boat wasn’t a captain. This was not a paid charter. Yes it could have been operator error, but again this was a “friend” deal.
If you go on a “friend” deal, you are assuming the risk imo. You go on a charter, the charter/captain assumes the risk.
On a semi related note, Petersburg is petitioning the state to require some sort of boaters certification for rental boats. Lots of DSMR renting boats these days in AK with absolutely no clue as to many things boat related. Curious if it goes anywhere.
I have seen some crazy [bleep] from rental boats in my area. My favorite this season was when two rental boats pulled up and started fishing INSIDE of a seine net. Let’s just say some not so kind words were said on the radio. More states are starting to regulate rentals. Most of those include VRBO type rentals that include any kind of vessel. The National Association of State Boating Law Administrators drafts and provides a lot of model acts, and they will likely be taking this issue up soon. Your Alaska boating law administrator is a really good safety minded guy who will likely support any such legislative proposals. I had a really good talk with an expert witness a few years back. He was a recreational boating incident expert witness. If you were the operator of the boat involved in the subject incident, you would NOT want this guy to support opposing counsel in a civil trial. Operating a boat as an individual or as a credentialed mariner brings with it tremendous responsibility and potential liability.
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You definately DO NOT want to go into the drink in the North Pacific.
Where I fish off the coast of BC, you have 15 minutes in that water before Hypothermia set in, you do not last long, and the tides are brutal!
Tragic
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You definately DO NOT want to go into the drink in the North Pacific.
Where I fish off the coast of BC, you have 15 minutes in that water before Hypothermia set in, you do not last long, and the tides are brutal!
Tragic What is your tidal swing?
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time.
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You definately DO NOT want to go into the drink in the North Pacific.
Where I fish off the coast of BC, you have 15 minutes in that water before Hypothermia set in, you do not last long, and the tides are brutal!
Tragic PFDs are so they can find the bodies.
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I have seen some crazy [bleep] from rental boats in my area. My favorite this season was when two rental boats pulled up and started fishing INSIDE of a seine net. Let’s just say some not so kind words were said on the radio. While being guilty of being a DSMF, even I am not THAT much of a DS.
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