From what I have read, based on Forensic Analysis, victims bleed out.
What a Grizz will do once you are incapacitated it will start by eating your arms or legs, while it holds you down by simply putting a paw on your chest as it eats you alive. This accounts for the bleeding out aspect.
I don’t know about the bears in your study, but this bear was frequently around our cabin on my grandfather’s homestead. This was 1983 and we were there that night.
The man was dragged from his tent, let go and then dragged again by the bear and the bear consumed 75 pounds of the guy. He started in the groin area and ate most of his body cavity, not touching the arms or legs…
Moore said the bear dragged May for several yards while the victim shouted and struggled to free himself. The grizzly turned away momentarily, and May told his friend, 'I'm hurt, bad... but I'm OK now.' The bear then returned and dragged May away, said Moore.
First of all does it make a difference, arms, legs, cock or balls first?
Anyway you slice it, being eaten alive by a bear isn't good. Secondly it was not my study, it was a study I read. I have only repeated what I read from a forensic analysis, which I read years ago to educate myself.
As stated I have killed many bears, and I treat every bear as a potential man eater. One that attacked me, when I was bow hunting them back in the day, didn't realize I had a shotgun as well as my bow with me and for that mistake, I blew his head off with my shotgun at point blank range.
From what I have read, based on Forensic Analysis, victims bleed out.
What a Grizz will do once you are incapacitated it will start by eating your arms or legs, while it holds you down by simply putting a paw on your chest as it eats you alive. This accounts for the bleeding out aspect.
I don’t know about the bears in your study, but this bear was frequently around our cabin on my grandfather’s homestead. This was 1983 and we were there that night.
The man was dragged from his tent, let go and then dragged again by the bear and the bear consumed 75 pounds of the guy. He started in the groin area and ate most of his body cavity, not touching the arms or legs…
Moore said the bear dragged May for several yards while the victim shouted and struggled to free himself. The grizzly turned away momentarily, and May told his friend, 'I'm hurt, bad... but I'm OK now.' The bear then returned and dragged May away, said Moore.
That was the Hebgen lake incident wasn’t it? I remember it well as we were in the park at that time. Can’t believe that’s 40+ years ago.
From what I have read, based on Forensic Analysis, victims bleed out.
What a Grizz will do once you are incapacitated it will start by eating your arms or legs, while it holds you down by simply putting a paw on your chest as it eats you alive. This accounts for the bleeding out aspect.
I don’t know about the bears in your study, but this bear was frequently around our cabin on my grandfather’s homestead. This was 1983 and we were there that night.
The man was dragged from his tent, let go and then dragged again by the bear and the bear consumed 75 pounds of the guy. He started in the groin area and ate most of his body cavity, not touching the arms or legs…
Moore said the bear dragged May for several yards while the victim shouted and struggled to free himself. The grizzly turned away momentarily, and May told his friend, 'I'm hurt, bad... but I'm OK now.' The bear then returned and dragged May away, said Moore.
That was the Hebgen lake incident wasn’t it? I remember it well as we were in the park at that time. Can’t believe that’s 40+ years ago.
Yes, it was. The bear ate 75 pounds of the camper, so they trapped him with a culvert trap, euthanized him and did some analysis to determine why he killed and ate the camper. I’m no scientist, but it is clear to me that when a bear eats 75 pounds of meat and guts, he was obviously hungry.
I could have saved them thousands of dollars in analytical forensics…
From what I have read, based on Forensic Analysis, victims bleed out.
What a Grizz will do once you are incapacitated it will start by eating your arms or legs, while it holds you down by simply putting a paw on your chest as it eats you alive. This accounts for the bleeding out aspect.
I don’t know about the bears in your study, but this bear was frequently around our cabin on my grandfather’s homestead. This was 1983 and we were there that night.
The man was dragged from his tent, let go and then dragged again by the bear and the bear consumed 75 pounds of the guy. He started in the groin area and ate most of his body cavity, not touching the arms or legs…
Moore said the bear dragged May for several yards while the victim shouted and struggled to free himself. The grizzly turned away momentarily, and May told his friend, 'I'm hurt, bad... but I'm OK now.' The bear then returned and dragged May away, said Moore.
That was the Hebgen lake incident wasn’t it? I remember it well as we were in the park at that time. Can’t believe that’s 40+ years ago.
Yes, it was. The bear ate 75 pounds of the camper, so they trapped him with a culvert trap, euthanized him and did some analysis to determine why he killed and ate the camper. I’m no scientist, but it is clear to me that when a bear eats 75 pounds of meat and guts, he was obviously hungry.
I could have saved them thousands of dollars in analytical forensics…
Anyone have more details? Sow/cub type thing? You just never know, got to stay vigilant in those parts. I've only been deer hunting once in SE and had to defend myself. Fortunately ended with a dead bear.
If you don’t mind sharing your bear attack, I would like to hear the story and details of how it happened and what you used to kill the bear.
Hunting deer on Kodiak island in 2008. I guess it was a bad berry year and the bears were grouchy. My buddy shot a deer up on the hillside, we dressed it and were packing meat down to the lake. I was in front, he was a few steps behind. I foolishly had my gun on my shoulder, had gotten tired hauling meat and busting through the thick stuff and put the gun on my shoulder instead of in my hands. I had a brief alert with breaking branches and shaking alders and he came busting out of the brush about 17' in front of me coming hard. I instinctively took a step back as I went to get rifle off my shoulder, tripped and went over backwards. My buddy shot him and he turned enough that he didn't run me over. We both unloaded on him until he quit moving. About a 4 yo male. We were both shooting .300 Win Mag.
The craziest thing about this is that just days earlier we had gone to the site where Matt Sutton had been attacked. (His story made it into Outdoor Life, you can look it up. The youtube link below is his story.) We were working for Dean Andrews of Andrews Airways, remodeling some hanger space. Bill Bush was working with us, he is the guy in the story that was with Matt out there in Vikoda Bay. After Matt was attacked he dragged himself down to the water, leaving his pack behind. In his pack was his digital camera, glasses, etc. We decided to go out there and get his stuff for him. Bill wasn't interested in making that trip so he gave us directions as best he could to find the spot. Dean Andrews flew us out there and we trudged around until we found the site. It was pretty surreal. A 10'x10' area torn up, bits of camo hanging in the brush, blood, his pack and walking stick. Just imagining the scene made the hair stand up. I've got the pictures somewhere. He's a tough dude.
Bill was an incredible guy, tough old codger. He kept Matt alive for a few days until they finally made contact for rescue. It was a pretty ugly few days for them, he wasn't going to let Matt die out there. He had Matt's bloody clothes at the jobsite, one of those old school white thermal undershirts that was mostly red.
Anyway, with that scenario pretty fresh in mind, we didn't bother taking names or asking questions, just put that teenage son of a bitch in the dirt when he came calling.
Anyone have more details? Sow/cub type thing? You just never know, got to stay vigilant in those parts. I've only been deer hunting once in SE and had to defend myself. Fortunately ended with a dead bear.
If you don’t mind sharing your bear attack, I would like to hear the story and details of how it happened and what you used to kill the bear.
Hunting deer on Kodiak island in 2008. I guess it was a bad berry year and the bears were grouchy. My buddy shot a deer up on the hillside, we dressed it and were packing meat down to the lake. I was in front, he was a few steps behind. I foolishly had my gun on my shoulder, had gotten tired hauling meat and busting through the thick stuff and put the gun on my shoulder instead of in my hands. I had a brief alert with breaking branches and shaking alders and he came busting out of the brush about 17' in front of me coming hard. I instinctively took a step back as I went to get rifle off my shoulder, tripped and went over backwards. My buddy shot him and he turned enough that he didn't run me over. We both unloaded on him until he quit moving. About a 3 yo male. Luckily it was nice and thick in there, so he likely turned into a few meals for his mates. We were both shooting .300 Win Mag. I think I may have a claw or two somewhere in the pile.
The craziest thing about this is that just days earlier we had gone to the site where Matt Sutton had been attacked. (His story made it into Outdoor Life, you can look it up. The youtube link below is his story.) We were working for Dean Andrews of Andrews Airways, remodeling some hanger space. Bill Bush was working with us, he is the guy in the story that was with Matt out there in Vikoda Bay. After Matt was attacked he dragged himself down to the water, leaving his pack behind. In his pack was his digital camera, glasses, etc. We decided to go out there and get his stuff for him. Bill wasn't interested in making that trip so he gave us directions as best he could to find the spot. Dean Andrews flew us out there and we trudged around until we found the site. It was pretty surreal. A 10'x10' area torn up, bits of camo hanging in the brush, blood, his pack and walking stick. Just imagining the scene made the hair stand up. I've got the pictures somewhere. He's a tough dude.
Bill was an incredible guy, tough old codger. He kept Matt alive for a few days until they finally made contact for rescue. It was a pretty ugly few days for them, he wasn't going to let Matt die out there. He had Matt's bloody clothes at the jobsite, one of those old school white thermal undershirts that was mostly red.
Anyway, with that scenario pretty fresh in mind, we didn't bother taking names or asking questions, just put that teenage son of a bitch in the dirt when he came calling.
Having spent many decades around brown bears, especially on Kodiak and the mainland across...
Ayway, there is way TOO much bullshit added by people with zero bear experience. There is virtually zero reality in the vast majority of the "tale."
Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
I took the measures that the situation called for. Buddy of mine got fined when he turned in a DLP for not leaving the nut sack on the hide. The brown shirt harassed him for not firing a warning shot, even though his 10 year old son was with him, and the bear dropped about rifle length away. Never know what you'll get from those guys.
They do add a bit in that rendition, but pretty much happened as it is told. Matt acknowledged his blunder of trying to run the bears off, probably cost him a few more staples.
Swamp, the unfortunate reality is your racism/anti-semitism casts a pall over what you have to say on any given topic.
Blowing off regs is an insult to honest people who follow them. Those who have nothing to hide don’t hide things.
The fact that you resort to made up nonsense terms created by marxists to shout people down who have a voice, such as "racism & anti-semitism" shows that you are one of the brainwashed morons ...
"The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants".
There’s no made up nonsense here, and I’m not shouting at anyone. Do you affirm or disavow your previous statements about the Jewish people and the historical reality of the holocaust?
Swamp, the unfortunate reality is your racism/anti-semitism casts a pall over what you have to say on any given topic.
Blowing off regs is an insult to honest people who follow them. Those who have nothing to hide don’t hide things.
Call it whatever you like... AK courts have a long history of hammering people turning themselves in for minor infractions... And going light on those fighting it to the bitter end.
Exactly opposite what they should be doing.
Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
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