Off the shelf 10/22’s are just fine, no tuning needed
I’ve never had and off the sh.elf that was not a one holer, or dead reliable. I’ve had a few that hated stingers and found the culprit was a poly buffer I installed.
You're either the luckiest sunofabitch alive or a damn liar. I've seen plenty of 10/22's that were neither accurate or reliable by any stretch.
IME the 10/22 is as reliable as you can make a semi-auto. I've never had a problem other than the occasional fail to fire that is common with rimfire ammo. That's an issue with all rimfire ammo, not the rifles problem. A bolt action might be a smidge more reliable and certainly more accurate, but I'll take one of my 10/22's and a few QUALITY 25 round magazines.
Accuracy is all over the place with the standard 10/22 carbine that most people buy. I've seen some that would keep 5 shots in an inch at 50 yards, some that wouldn't do better than 2". That's with good ammo, but even the most accurate bolt action target rifles will shoot bad with bad ammo.
This should be the standard 10/22. They don't cost that much more, shoot much more accurately and still come in at around 7 lbs scoped. No there are no iron sights, but I don't consider that a negative. I've never seen one of these that wouldn't put 5 shots into an inch at 50 yards and often a bit better.
Handy, with strength, durability, dependable, quick to reload, & reasonably accurate.
Has it been made? Examples, 10/22 but some just don't cut it for dependability. Nylon 66, 150K round guns without hiccups but slow to load. Mag fed models not in the same ball park,,, this type of thing.
A puzzle this is for most people. The answer likely depends upon one's priorities. Are you a spray and pray type, or a one shot killer?
Many people tried to kill me a half century ago with the spray and pray mentality. Lots of them died as a result. I prefer to put the bullet where it needs to go and be done with it.
50 yards, T/C Contender, 5 shots....
OTOH, my 10/22 does OK...take your pick.
I am..........disturbed.
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IME the 10/22 is as reliable as you can make a semi-auto. I've never had a problem other than the occasional fail to fire that is common with rimfire ammo. That's an issue with all rimfire ammo, not the rifles problem. A bolt action might be a smidge more reliable and certainly more accurate, but I'll take one of my 10/22's and a few QUALITY 25 round magazines.
Accuracy is all over the place with the standard 10/22 carbine that most people buy. I've seen some that would keep 5 shots in an inch at 50 yards, some that wouldn't do better than 2". That's with good ammo, but even the most accurate bolt action target rifles will shoot bad with bad ammo.
This should be the standard 10/22. They don't cost that much more, shoot much more accurately and still come in at around 7 lbs scoped. No there are no iron sights, but I don't consider that a negative. I've never seen one of these that wouldn't put 5 shots into an inch at 50 yards and often a bit better.
If SHTF is in your plans, .22 mag ammo is more durable than ordinary .22s and weighs only a bit more. The Federal 50gr runs at about 1500 which should be less ‘splody on edible game; only a theory so far for me.
Despite all the negativity about the looks, I’ll be checking out one of the new Savage Revels when I find one locally. The push-pin takedown is a handy feature, and it’s much lighter and more compact than an AR version. Other good choices I think are the SS RARs and the CZ 457 with the nitride finish.
You will love this. Some years back I wanted a semi auto 22 and wife asked me if she could get one for me for Christmas. I told her I liked the Thompson because people were big on them ( a decade or more ago) and I wanted something other than a common Ruger 10/22.
So she goes to the LGS and mentions a 22 rifle. The guy behind the counter asked if there was any in particular and she said, "Well, he said something about a Ruger."
So...I have a 10/22. I found a cool M1 tanker stock but it made the sights useless and I gave up on it. While looking for another replacement stock I decided to strip the original and stain it. Original finsh practically removed itself. I loved how it turned out -and no cost.
I put a buffer on it and a scope and it is flawless and super accurate. Gunzo where did you get the notion they aren't dependable? To me it seems the right fit for the original ask.
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Military grade might be an illusion. As stated by others the military buys in bulk and gets the cheapest thing they can find for a training rifle. The Mossberg M44 Gov was ok but it was long, heavy and had a Burch stock. The Springfield 22 training rifle was also heavy. I used one when I was a kid. Our neighbor was a cook in France during WWII and brought home his camp rifle. Wish I had it because it was pretty cool. Anschutz and CZ make decent 22's. The Ruger American Target version with a laminated stock is decent. Accuracy might be illusive because most all 22's are chambered pretty loose in order to chamber all makes of ammo. If you have the money to spend you can build your dream 22 but it'll cost.
1961 summer - pawn shop/gun store in West Chester, PA - bunch of .22s all alike standing upright in a barrel. A little bit rough - $10 - take your pick. All were Savage M19 NRA apparently made for "training" sometime in the 30's. Could barely afford it - took one home with a box of Win .22LR. 5 shot clip feed. Have used it incessantly ever since - bolt closing got loose, put a spot weld on the receiver and filed it down to just right.
Very tight accuracy. Have used it at multiple ranges. Put a side mount/scope on it - right now sighted at 200 yards and pretty good with Midas+ How does this happen among all these fancier/newer/more costly 22s staring at it?
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