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Originally Posted by Eric308
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I think a lot of people underestimated the Russians in this war. By design, IMO, Putin has waged limited war with the intent, 1: to save much of the expensive infrastructure (Asovstal Steelworks and nuke power plants, was an example of restraint) and 2: Limited civilian casualties and suffering (unless the Ukes were using civilian buildings as observation posts or artillery fire control points) whenever possible... in order to try to limit the public hate and animosity toward Russia when his (Putin) real estate acquisition plan was completed. Sure you can point to various artillery, aviation strikes that were obvious screwups...but this has never been anything even close to all out war. But, everybody is wearing down, tempers are fraying, things are escalating. According to many sources, Russia has a huge missile inventory staged for several more waves like the first serious assault on the power grid. At some point, with utilities broken and the Ukrainian winter beginning, the people are going to force Z to the table or to pack his bags and depart.

This is laughable. Underestimated the Russians? A competent military would have taken Kiev in less than a month. The Russians tried to blitz into Kiev, but were so comically inept that they got their asses kicked. They then tried terrorizing the Ukrainians into giving up, but they didn't. It's been a war of attrition since then. People were trying to say the same thing last winter about how strikes on the power grid and other dual purpose (military and civilian) infrastructure would bring Ukraine to its knees.

I'm not a big fan of the war in Ukraine, but there's only one person responsible for it (Putin) and anyone who can't see that is willfully blind. The Ukrainians, for good reason, don't want to be ruled by Russia. As long as they are willing to die to prevent then, I'm happy to let American industrial power help them. The only way the Russians win this war is if the United States turns its back on the Ukrainians and abandons them the way we abandoned South Vietnam and Afghanistan.
Putin is not at fault here. We are. We blew up the gov in Ukraine in 14. We are pushing closer and closer to Russias border with the nato bullchit. We have been poking that bear for some time and our gov chitheads arent even hiding it. They are foaming at the mouth for war with Russia. This isnt opinions. This is fact. Do a bit more research on this subject before posting lol


NATO is a defensive pact you numbskull. It can push however close it wants to Russia as much as ANY nation wants to be part of NATO. Nato is not a threat to russia in the slightest, and the fact that you somehow beleive it is what caused Russia to go into Ukraine is deep seated lunacy.


All russia has to do is NOT invade other countries? Oh jeeze, its that simple? I'm honestly thinking you're NOT an American at all. You don't either know [bleep] all about America and its Alliances, or you wilingly dont care to spread information to benefit your masters in Russia, or Iran, or North Korea, or wherever else. No one wants War With Russia you retarded cummuffin, they also DONT want to be enslaved by the neo-Soviet Russian Federation Colonial Empire thing Putin wants to assemble out of the ashes of the Former Soviet Union.


And what the [bleep] do you mean by "we blew up the the gov in Ukraine in 14?" lol, what? hahahaha.
Many of the guys here are hard-wired authoritarian ant-semites; they'll willingly lap up any Kremlin propaganda no matter how absurd.

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In the first place, what does that phony, lame duck have any business making any kind of policy decisions without even discussing it with his successor ?

He was rejected by his own party and his administration was soundly defeated in a national election.

MAGA!


Did Hunter quit Barisma and get a job at Raytheon maybe?


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This is clearly an act of escalation by the lame-duck administration or, to be more accurate, the deep state.

This act is contrary to the will of the American people who overwhelming voted to end our involvement in and financing of foreign wars. To escalate things now in this manner that brings the nation closer to all-out war with a nuclear power is an attempt to sabotage the new administration and force Trump carry on with a war he promised to avoid. Our founding fathers rightly warned us to stay clear of foreign entanglements.

Any American who wants to increase tensions with Russia is either profiting monetarily, has had their brain addled by too much legacy media news (read propaganda), is simply a chest-thumping retard who thinks might is always right, or is an out-of-touch boomer who's still caught up in the cold war -some fit all of the above.

NATO should have been dissolved decades ago with the fall of the iron curtain.

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Originally Posted by Eric308
Many of the guys here are hard-wired authoritarian ant-semites; they'll willingly lap up any Kremlin propaganda no matter how absurd.

Now, class. This is another example of what is known as the "schittlib mindset". Learn to recognize it. Don't allow it to influence your opinions.

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Originally Posted by Eric308
Many of the guys here are hard-wired authoritarian ant-semites; they'll willingly lap up any Kremlin propaganda no matter how absurd.
Jewish behavior leads to antisemitism.

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Originally Posted by AKislander
Any American who wants to increase tensions with Russia is either profiting monetarily, has had their brain addled by too much legacy media news.
The Jonesing for Russia's destruction originates with a very powerful ethnic group who essentially controls our nation's foreign policy and has deep and abiding ethnic hatred for the Russian people.

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None of this would be possible without the national credit card that is fiat currency. It would simply be too expensive if money were something real that required plenty of hard work, time, risk and real money itself in order to create more.

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Why doesn't tptb call for the 25th? Way overdue.

Dude

The Junta was Installed by a Team Effort

Something as Big as Stealing a National Election doesn’t happen on one side of the Table it takes the Round Table to pull it off

They were All in on the Steal otherwise it wouldn’t have happen

All Three Branches to the Point

Why don’t they 25th Him

It’s called Duplicity and the Gamble on how messy it would get is just to Great to 25th Coco Mellon

Remember there’s a thing call Rope

The Law of Unintended Consequences is just to Uncontrollable

We should axe Ted Curse he’s a Heb Certified Constitutional Lawyer from Harvard

If anyone would know Ted Would

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Earlier today a Fox News broadcast said some underwater pipelines or communication cables between Germany and another European country were destroyed. Russia is suspected of being the perpetrator in response to “Biden” authorizing Ukraine to use long range misses to strike inside Russia. There is another thread on the Campfire, I think it’s titled “is this true” and it has an interview with Putin about this very subject, escalation of the war.

Admittedly I don’t know much about the history of that part of the world and I have no inside information. Most of what shapes my opinion comes from reading conservative news stories and what I have read on this forum. I think the US purposely escalated the situation into a war by not assuring Putin that there was no place in NATO for Ukraine. Our politicians did so to protect their money laundering operations and illegal biological labs in Ukraine. Their money laundering operations include enriching the MIC.

We all know Biden makes none of the decisions so he didn’t decide to authorize Ukraine to use these weapons. The decision probably came from the MIC.

I also think as soon as Trump was declared the president elect, and possibly before that time, Trump and Putin have communicated about how things will be when Trump takes office. I think both men respect each other because they are both strong leaders. I think Putin will continue to talk with Trump rather than our present government officials. I think Putin and Trump will try not to escalate this war before Trump takes office. I think the MIC will do everything they can to escalate the war and make it difficult, if not impossible, for Trump to end the war soon after being inaugurated.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by AKislander
Any American who wants to increase tensions with Russia is either profiting monetarily, has had their brain addled by too much legacy media news.
The Jonesing for Russia's destruction originates with a very powerful ethnic group who essentially controls our nation's foreign policy and has deep and abiding ethnic hatred for the Russian people.

Some folks want a return to the post-Soviet Yeltsin government where (((U.S. and Russian oligarchs))) were stripping Russia's resources and gutting that whole part of the planet. Pres. Putin stopped the bloodletting and that has fueled the Neocons rage against Russia ever since.

Nobody wants to talk about the Fact that every U.S. congressional representative has an AIPAC handler - tell me who is really being 'represented' in Congress, anybody??


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by AKislander
Any American who wants to increase tensions with Russia is either profiting monetarily, has had their brain addled by too much legacy media news.
The Jonesing for Russia's destruction originates with a very powerful ethnic group who essentially controls our nation's foreign policy and has deep and abiding ethnic hatred for the Russian people.
They hate the Ukrainians also. And look who is the President. Look at how many Ukrainians have been killed. 2+2 is always going to equal 4. Whether one chooses to see it or not.

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Originally Posted by Q_Sertorius
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I think a lot of people underestimated the Russians in this war. By design, IMO, Putin has waged limited war with the intent, 1: to save much of the expensive infrastructure (Asovstal Steelworks and nuke power plants, was an example of restraint) and 2: Limited civilian casualties and suffering (unless the Ukes were using civilian buildings as observation posts or artillery fire control points) whenever possible... in order to try to limit the public hate and animosity toward Russia when his (Putin) real estate acquisition plan was completed. Sure you can point to various artillery, aviation strikes that were obvious screwups...but this has never been anything even close to all out war. But, everybody is wearing down, tempers are fraying, things are escalating. According to many sources, Russia has a huge missile inventory staged for several more waves like the first serious assault on the power grid. At some point, with utilities broken and the Ukrainian winter beginning, the people are going to force Z to the table or to pack his bags and depart.

This is laughable. Underestimated the Russians? A competent military would have taken Kiev in less than a month. The Russians tried to blitz into Kiev, but were so comically inept that they got their asses kicked. They then tried terrorizing the Ukrainians into giving up, but they didn't. It's been a war of attrition since then. People were trying to say the same thing last winter about how strikes on the power grid and other dual purpose (military and civilian) infrastructure would bring Ukraine to its knees.

I'm not a big fan of the war in Ukraine, but there's only one person responsible for it (Putin) and anyone who can't see that is willfully blind. The Ukrainians, for good reason, don't want to be ruled by Russia. As long as they are willing to die to prevent then, I'm happy to let American industrial power help them. The only way the Russians win this war is if the United States turns its back on the Ukrainians and abandons them the way we abandoned South Vietnam and Afghanistan.


Putin has been purposely running the Ukraine war like a SWAT operation to minimize casualties and infrastructure damage. If he wanted to, he could have smoked Kiev in 24 hours.

I'm disappointed he didn't wait for a gathering of schitt-stirring foreign nationals in and around the biolabs and rained fire on everyone and everything around them.


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Originally Posted by gonehuntin
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by AKislander
Any American who wants to increase tensions with Russia is either profiting monetarily, has had their brain addled by too much legacy media news.
The Jonesing for Russia's destruction originates with a very powerful ethnic group who essentially controls our nation's foreign policy and has deep and abiding ethnic hatred for the Russian people.

Some folks want a return to the post-Soviet Yeltsin government where (((U.S. and Russian oligarchs))) were stripping Russia's resources and gutting that whole part of the planet. Pres. Putin stopped the bloodletting and that has fueled the Neocons rage against Russia ever since.

Nobody wants to talk about the Fact that every U.S. congressional representative has an AIPAC handler - tell me who is really being 'represented' in Congress, anybody??


Russophobia is a disease that's as terminal as TDS.


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Originally Posted by aether_tech
But sure, blame the jews for all your hardships in life, that you caused yourself.

Jews haven't done a thing to me sport...don't owe me anything, not owed anything by me.

But unlike you I watch and learn, then make my own conclusions. Perhaps you should try that approach some time instead of venting bile and spite.


And for what it is worth, the Russians also don't owe me anything.


These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
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Originally Posted by Eric308
Many of the guys here are hard-wired authoritarian ant-semites; they'll willingly lap up any Kremlin propaganda no matter how absurd.

It doesn't seem to matter what the subject matter is, you always get it wrong. That is either a God-given talent...or you are the moronic imbecile I think you are.


These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
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Originally Posted by 45_100
Earlier today a Fox News broadcast said some underwater pipelines or communication cables between Germany and another European country were destroyed. Russia is suspected of being the perpetrator in response to “Biden” authorizing Ukraine to use long range misses to strike inside Russia. There is another thread on the Campfire, I think it’s titled “is this true” and it has an interview with Putin about this very subject, escalation of the war.

Admittedly I don’t know much about the history of that part of the world and I have no inside information. Most of what shapes my opinion comes from reading conservative news stories and what I have read on this forum. I think the US purposely escalated the situation into a war by not assuring Putin that there was no place in NATO for Ukraine. Our politicians did so to protect their money laundering operations and illegal biological labs in Ukraine. Their money laundering operations include enriching the MIC.

We all know Biden makes none of the decisions so he didn’t decide to authorize Ukraine to use these weapons. The decision probably came from the MIC.

I also think as soon as Trump was declared the president elect, and possibly before that time, Trump and Putin have communicated about how things will be when Trump takes office. I think both men respect each other because they are both strong leaders. I think Putin will continue to talk with Trump rather than our present government officials. I think Putin and Trump will try not to escalate this war before Trump takes office. I think the MIC will do everything they can to escalate the war and make it difficult, if not impossible, for Trump to end the war soon after being inaugurated.

MIC = Man In Charge.
So you think putins been talking to trump? They seem like good buds alright. I hope they enjoy each other's company. Trump Jr. agrees 100% with putin as well. What could go wrong? I guess putin just needs to keep on blowing up communications infrastructure , and oil lines to keep gathering himself sympathy and demonization of bidden and the whole of Western Europe.He loves it so much whenever he sees people say you don't have to fight for freedom.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by AKislander
Any American who wants to increase tensions with Russia is either profiting monetarily, has had their brain addled by too much legacy media news.
The Jonesing for Russia's destruction originates with a very powerful ethnic group who essentially controls our nation's foreign policy and has deep and abiding ethnic hatred for the Russian people.


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Originally Posted by Pat85
What’s hiding in Ukraine that our politicians are willing to destroy the world over?

$$$$$$$


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Originally Posted by Gibby
Originally Posted by Pat85
What’s hiding in Ukraine that our politicians are willing to destroy the world over?

$$$$$$$

And unfettered access to Siberian assets.


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And a simple dirty take on this whole fiasco...if the left thinks something is cool, check you wallet and gird your loins.


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