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The idea of pockets on coats is great…until it’s 85 degrees. It's never close to 85 degrees here during deer season. That's called summer and I don't generally need a coat or hunt anything but woodchucks then. Opening day of Muzzleloader was 84 this year. Rifle opener was 37 at sunrise at 77 by 2pm. A 30-40 degree swing is fairly common this time of year. I’ve hunted muzzleloader (October) in the snow, and rifle (now) in a t-Shirt. This sort of thing is why I carry a backpack.
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The idea of pockets on coats is great…until it’s 85 degrees. It's never close to 85 degrees here during deer season. That's called summer and I don't generally need a coat or hunt anything but woodchucks then. Opening day of Muzzleloader was 84 this year. Rifle opener was 37 at sunrise at 77 by 2pm. A 30-40 degree swing is fairly common this time of year. I’ve hunted muzzleloader (October) in the snow, and rifle (now) in a t-Shirt. This sort of thing is why I carry a backpack. It can be 30's at daybreak and 60's sometimes even lower 70's by noon here during bow season but I don't bow hunt anymore. Very rarely will we see mid day temps higher than 50's here during rifle season and usually not over 40's. By late rifle or muzzleloader it's normally single digits to 20's at daybreak and not over 30's mid day. I can stick an extra layer in the game bag of either of my deer hunting coats.
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If it don't fit in my pockets, it ain't going hunting with me. Nobody in my hunting circle has ever carried a pack. I swear some of these guys go afield for a days hunt like they're planning on staying out for a week. I used to do this, the problem I've found is that transfering a bunch of loose items in and out of your pockets all the time you are bound to forget stuff. Sometimes you end up in the bush without TP, other times you find a stray round of ammo rattling around in the clothes dryer. The other problem is as you guys touched on, the amount of pockets becomes a sticking point when purchasing hunting clothes. A small pouch of essentials that you can grab and go, whatever type you might choose, has proven to be a better system for me. I have two deer hunting coats. One for hunting on the move and warmer weather and another for colder weather/sitting a stand. Other than cartridges, which I carry in an ammo wallet on my belt, the essentials stay in the pockets of each all season. Everything except a sandwich and bottle of water which need to be replaced daily no matter what they're carried in of course. In addition to chest pockets and large pockets at the waist, all hunting coats should have a built in game bag in the rear and be made of quiet/near silent materials.. Most of the year I wear a wool vest. They are made in the UK and sold under a couple different names and can be ordered on Ebay. Well made and lots of pockets. I just vary the layers I wear under the vest for much of the season. I also have a Columbia brand wool coat that I wear later in the season, its got two big flap pockets and two hand warmer pockets. This isnt as many pockets as you like but the coat is very quiet, I often wear a mill-surp wool shirt underneath which gives me two chest pockets so long as quick access isnt critical. On the rare occasion that I choose to sit in cold weather I use a pair of insulated bib overalls. You can unzip the legs and front for the walk in to keep from overheating, then zip everything up once you are ready to sit.
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I have a backpack for the little bit i carry
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Well, I unloaded the essentials from the backpack I wore yesterday into a little slingbag, eliminating a bunch of JIC gear and swapping out the knife for a lighter one. The water bottle holder on the bag is almost useless so it’ll go inside the bag, taking up a lot room, probably a good thing as it’ll keep me from stuffing excess crap in that space. I’ll try it out next week with one of the coats with limited pocket space. The Filson Mac will get a try too when the weather is right.
Thanks for all the input, and since it ain’t necessarily over yet, keep it coming.
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To answer your first question, no, even though it has a “flocked” surface, it’s not really quiet, but it is a great choice for sitting. It also lacks a game pocket, a handy thing to have. I’m leery of stuffing too much in front pockets because of what Exophysical mentioned, and also because bulging pockets get in the way
Other choices on hand are a Bemidji heavy wool hunting blaze orange coat, 30oz wool IIRC, but that has only handwarmer and chest pockets, so a bag of some sort would be needed; and there’s also my Filson double mac which I’d retired from hunting due to its weight, but the game pocket and the others should be sufficient to eliminate a pack altogether, a good trade-off maybe. I used to stuff a quart Stanley in that game pocket. It won’t hold my telescoping stool, but that has its own soft case and strap. Goes two pounds and puts me plenty high enough to see well and be comfortable if I decide to sit. I can’t rise straight up from crosslegged these days, for some reason or other🤔
Got a few days to ponder this before I go back. Yesterday there were at least 15 cars in one of the WMA lots for the opener, potentially up to 30 hunters for that square mile chunk. Gonna wait for the dust to settle. Do you have to carry that stool in/out with you every day ? I mean I know it's public land but couldn't you hide it in the vicinity of where you plan to sit pre season ? I've hunted public for decades and have several places where I'll occasionally take a sit at each location I may hunt in a season. At or near each of those sit spots I'll stash a 5 gallon bucket in a blowdown, beside a log or under a young spruce etc.. I have a couple dozen black and dark green buckets so they blend in pretty well in these woods and are very hard to see when stashed. Of course some cushion is nice on top of a bucket so I cut a piece from one of those 3/4" foam hot seats that's just big enough to cover the bottom of a bucket and carry it in my game bag. Somebody else may sit one if they see it but nobody has ever stolen my buckets. Something I can't say for game cams and portable tree stands unfortunately, which is why I stopped using them long ago.
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I used a camel pack for a number of years. I only filled the water bladder half full to cut down on the weight. Normally I carried rope, marking tape, knives, extra gloves, stocking cap, and a little food.
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For me, I hunt in a 27 square mile area with a logging road on 4 sides. I make due without a pack and just the contents of my pockets. Unless a lunch is needed.
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To answer your first question, no, even though it has a “flocked” surface, it’s not really quiet, but it is a great choice for sitting. It also lacks a game pocket, a handy thing to have. I’m leery of stuffing too much in front pockets because of what Exophysical mentioned, and also because bulging pockets get in the way
Other choices on hand are a Bemidji heavy wool hunting blaze orange coat, 30oz wool IIRC, but that has only handwarmer and chest pockets, so a bag of some sort would be needed; and there’s also my Filson double mac which I’d retired from hunting due to its weight, but the game pocket and the others should be sufficient to eliminate a pack altogether, a good trade-off maybe. I used to stuff a quart Stanley in that game pocket. It won’t hold my telescoping stool, but that has its own soft case and strap. Goes two pounds and puts me plenty high enough to see well and be comfortable if I decide to sit. I can’t rise straight up from crosslegged these days, for some reason or other🤔
Got a few days to ponder this before I go back. Yesterday there were at least 15 cars in one of the WMA lots for the opener, potentially up to 30 hunters for that square mile chunk. Gonna wait for the dust to settle. Do you have to carry that stool in/out with you every day ? I mean I know it's public land but couldn't you hide it in the vicinity of where you plan to sit pre season ? I've hunted public for decades and have several places where I'll occasionally take a sit at each location I may hunt in a season. At or near each of those locations I'll stash a 5 gallon bucket in a blowdown, beside a log or under a young spruce etc.. I have a couple dozen black and dark green buckets so they blend in pretty well in these woods and are very hard to see when stashed. Of course some cushion is nice on top of a bucket so I cut a piece from one of those 3/4" foam hot seats that's just big enough to cover the bottom of a bucket and carry it in my game bag. Somebody else may sit one if they see it but nobody has ever stolen my buckets. Something I can't say for game cams and portable tree stands unfortunately, which is why I stopped using them long ago. Same here. Stashed tree seats and similar and haven’t lost one yet. Matter of fact I have a few stashed on State Land ready for the morning.
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For me, I hunt in a 27 square mile area with a logging road on 4 sides. I make do without a pack and just the contents of my pockets. Unless a lunch is needed. I have no desire to “make do,” I prefer to have what I need and want to make my hunt comfortable. The more comfortable I am , the more likely I am to stay the day and focus on the hunt. I’m just not much for sadomasachism.
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I certainly agree with this ^ at this point in my life. I still love to hunt but not to the point of the sorrows outweighing the joys any more. When one is no longer young, immortal and impervious, what might be or happen comes to mind more often.
And of course, how far you’ll be from the vehicle is a major consideration. 😎
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To answer your first question, no, even though it has a “flocked” surface, it’s not really quiet, but it is a great choice for sitting. It also lacks a game pocket, a handy thing to have. I’m leery of stuffing too much in front pockets because of what Exophysical mentioned, and also because bulging pockets get in the way
Other choices on hand are a Bemidji heavy wool hunting blaze orange coat, 30oz wool IIRC, but that has only handwarmer and chest pockets, so a bag of some sort would be needed; and there’s also my Filson double mac which I’d retired from hunting due to its weight, but the game pocket and the others should be sufficient to eliminate a pack altogether, a good trade-off maybe. I used to stuff a quart Stanley in that game pocket. It won’t hold my telescoping stool, but that has its own soft case and strap. Goes two pounds and puts me plenty high enough to see well and be comfortable if I decide to sit. I can’t rise straight up from crosslegged these days, for some reason or other🤔
Got a few days to ponder this before I go back. Yesterday there were at least 15 cars in one of the WMA lots for the opener, potentially up to 30 hunters for that square mile chunk. Gonna wait for the dust to settle. Do you have to carry that stool in/out with you every day ? I mean I know it's public land but couldn't you hide it in the vicinity of where you plan to sit pre season ? I've hunted public for decades and have several places where I'll occasionally take a sit at each location I may hunt in a season. At or near each of those sit spots I'll stash a 5 gallon bucket in a blowdown, beside a log or under a young spruce etc.. I have a couple dozen black and dark green buckets so they blend in pretty well in these woods and are very hard to see when stashed. Of course some cushion is nice on top of a bucket so I cut a piece from one of those 3/4" foam hot seats that's just big enough to cover the bottom of a bucket and carry it in my game bag. Somebody else may sit one if they see it but nobody has ever stolen my buckets. Something I can't say for game cams and portable tree stands unfortunately, which is why I stopped using them long ago. I carried a heavy folding chair with a back in Saturday and put it where I scored my double last season. Sat on it for about 4 1/2 hours yesterday morning. It’ll stay for the season. I folded it and put it back in its case and hid it. I have a few others, tall tripod stools and a telescoping “mushroom” that weigh right at 2lbs, so not much of a burden, though I don’t carry them unless I know I’ll be sitting someplace. I also have a couple of seat cushions with backs that weigh almost nothing and are good for sitting on logs or rocks. One of those has backpack straps and some limited carrying capacity. That mushroom collapses into a disk about 10” across and 2 1/2” thick and fits into a padded case that doubles as a fitted cover when deployed. It’s about 18” tall, just right, and doesn’t tip like most stools do. Amazon has a bunch of these on sale now for $20. All of them look very similar, might be identical. They are noisy to open unless you’re careful, but have amazing weight capacities for the bulky folks😜 Gonna be cold next week, 20s in the morning and highs in the 30s. Time for the wool pants and heavy socks….
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To answer your first question, no, even though it has a “flocked” surface, it’s not really quiet, but it is a great choice for sitting. It also lacks a game pocket, a handy thing to have. I’m leery of stuffing too much in front pockets because of what Exophysical mentioned, and also because bulging pockets get in the way
Other choices on hand are a Bemidji heavy wool hunting blaze orange coat, 30oz wool IIRC, but that has only handwarmer and chest pockets, so a bag of some sort would be needed; and there’s also my Filson double mac which I’d retired from hunting due to its weight, but the game pocket and the others should be sufficient to eliminate a pack altogether, a good trade-off maybe. I used to stuff a quart Stanley in that game pocket. It won’t hold my telescoping stool, but that has its own soft case and strap. Goes two pounds and puts me plenty high enough to see well and be comfortable if I decide to sit. I can’t rise straight up from crosslegged these days, for some reason or other🤔
Got a few days to ponder this before I go back. Yesterday there were at least 15 cars in one of the WMA lots for the opener, potentially up to 30 hunters for that square mile chunk. Gonna wait for the dust to settle. Do you have to carry that stool in/out with you every day ? I mean I know it's public land but couldn't you hide it in the vicinity of where you plan to sit pre season ? I've hunted public for decades and have several places where I'll occasionally take a sit at each location I may hunt in a season. At or near each of those sit spots I'll stash a 5 gallon bucket in a blowdown, beside a log or under a young spruce etc.. I have a couple dozen black and dark green buckets so they blend in pretty well in these woods and are very hard to see when stashed. Of course some cushion is nice on top of a bucket so I cut a piece from one of those 3/4" foam hot seats that's just big enough to cover the bottom of a bucket and carry it in my game bag. Somebody else may sit one if they see it but nobody has ever stolen my buckets. Something I can't say for game cams and portable tree stands unfortunately, which is why I stopped using them long ago. I carried a heavy folding chair with a back in Saturday and put it where I scored my double last season. Sat on it for about 4 1/2 hours yesterday morning. It’ll stay for the season. I folded it and put it back in its case and hid it. I have a few others, tall tripod stools and a telescoping “mushroom” that weigh right at 2lbs, so not much of a burden, though I don’t carry them unless I know I’ll be sitting someplace. I also have a couple of seat cushions with backs that weigh almost nothing and are good for sitting on logs or rocks. One of those has backpack straps and some limited carrying capacity. That mushroom collapses into a disk about 10” across and 2 1/2” thick and fits into a padded case that doubles as a fitted cover when deployed. It’s about 18” tall, just right, and doesn’t tip like most stools do. Amazon has a bunch of these on sale now for $20. All of them look very similar, might be identical. They are noisy to open unless you’re careful, but have amazing weight capacities for the bulky folks😜 Gonna be cold next week, 20s in the morning and highs in the 30s. Time for the wool pants and heavy socks…. Any pics of this telescoping mushroom seat?
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One thing I’ll keep is my Zoleo satellite tracker so they’ll know where to find the body……..  Fairly often heard conversation in my house before I head into the mountains, Her: "what if..." Me: "..." Her: "I know, I know, they'll find your picked over bones up on the mountain in a few years." I got one of the Big Woods Bucks fanny packs with the straps on beretzs' recommendation and I'm very happy with it. Not too big, not too small. I added a couple sidewinder pockets from Johnson Woolen Mills, one on each side for easy access to snacks, compass, ammo, etc., and added a temporary sternum strap out of para cord which I'll make better before next season. One cool thing is if I want to haul a big down parka in a stuff sack or something, the fanny pack does not interfere with a Johnson Woolen Mills backpack worn at the same time. Just get it and don't tell her. They really don't want to know everything even though they think they do! 
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I go any distance or if planning any appreciable amount of time, these go with me. Comfort equals longevity in the woods. These Helinox chairs at 2.25lbs are indispensable for me. Off the ground and good back support and very comfortable. The trekking poles make walking on uneven ground much easier and then double as shooting sticks when opportunity presents. The Sitka pack contains all possibles including some nourishment and water. For me it’s a perfect for a day hunt. ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/9FzNWHyc/image.jpg)
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To answer your first question, no, even though it has a “flocked” surface, it’s not really quiet, but it is a great choice for sitting. It also lacks a game pocket, a handy thing to have. I’m leery of stuffing too much in front pockets because of what Exophysical mentioned, and also because bulging pockets get in the way
Other choices on hand are a Bemidji heavy wool hunting blaze orange coat, 30oz wool IIRC, but that has only handwarmer and chest pockets, so a bag of some sort would be needed; and there’s also my Filson double mac which I’d retired from hunting due to its weight, but the game pocket and the others should be sufficient to eliminate a pack altogether, a good trade-off maybe. I used to stuff a quart Stanley in that game pocket. It won’t hold my telescoping stool, but that has its own soft case and strap. Goes two pounds and puts me plenty high enough to see well and be comfortable if I decide to sit. I can’t rise straight up from crosslegged these days, for some reason or other🤔
Got a few days to ponder this before I go back. Yesterday there were at least 15 cars in one of the WMA lots for the opener, potentially up to 30 hunters for that square mile chunk. Gonna wait for the dust to settle. Do you have to carry that stool in/out with you every day ? I mean I know it's public land but couldn't you hide it in the vicinity of where you plan to sit pre season ? I've hunted public for decades and have several places where I'll occasionally take a sit at each location I may hunt in a season. At or near each of those sit spots I'll stash a 5 gallon bucket in a blowdown, beside a log or under a young spruce etc.. I have a couple dozen black and dark green buckets so they blend in pretty well in these woods and are very hard to see when stashed. Of course some cushion is nice on top of a bucket so I cut a piece from one of those 3/4" foam hot seats that's just big enough to cover the bottom of a bucket and carry it in my game bag. Somebody else may sit one if they see it but nobody has ever stolen my buckets. Something I can't say for game cams and portable tree stands unfortunately, which is why I stopped using them long ago. I carried a heavy folding chair with a back in Saturday and put it where I scored my double last season. Sat on it for about 4 1/2 hours yesterday morning. It’ll stay for the season. I folded it and put it back in its case and hid it. I have a few others, tall tripod stools and a telescoping “mushroom” that weigh right at 2lbs, so not much of a burden, though I don’t carry them unless I know I’ll be sitting someplace. I also have a couple of seat cushions with backs that weigh almost nothing and are good for sitting on logs or rocks. One of those has backpack straps and some limited carrying capacity. That mushroom collapses into a disk about 10” across and 2 1/2” thick and fits into a padded case that doubles as a fitted cover when deployed. It’s about 18” tall, just right, and doesn’t tip like most stools do. Amazon has a bunch of these on sale now for $20. All of them look very similar, might be identical. They are noisy to open unless you’re careful, but have amazing weight capacities for the bulky folks😜 Gonna be cold next week, 20s in the morning and highs in the 30s. Time for the wool pants and heavy socks…. Any pics of this telescoping mushroom seat? My exact one is no longer available, but there are a bunch of other similar ones. This one looks good: https://www.amazon.com/NUMANU-Collapsible-Stool-Folding-Seat/dp/B0DBKVKLYF/ref=sr_1_8?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.EaAY7omEsYAkmrEgZxoX38Ys03IWeww__4wgVRLSJt_ftTTzy0HRHRmZfhgzNf9QonthxqC5kDrJBRVALUZQssJ0jGAySGHFt2FvGWvIbc9xBxgHK6rB39kjHlUdjxCdJe9SMsBtiZJXOJE9sFtnJb4kRJsV_cLgWpvi4b6Tajid1i7mYZLgIiv3FCu98NkShtX2vLvIt9coffZTWMju-XPUWCFxvzELPvE9j_uWc1TDr3hBc7ZBgJfjdmROhSqUbsZcXaRHvMPEC97O6u9fagsqf85-KM0_ITuPVK4kNSY.Rde2E_PPBPoad6nZun-24uzRAERs3Vd4blSIkg2mgnc&dib_tag=se&keywords=Telescoping%2Bstool&qid=1732677412&sr=8-8&th=1 Long-ass link I know, but if you just search “telescoping stool” on Amazon, you’ll see plenty of options.
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My Zoleo tracker sends periodic location info to my wife, has an emergency rescue button, and an “I’m okay” button that I press now and then while out. It also links to my phone so I can send texts to her from places where cell service isn’t good. It’s about $150 plus the monthly service, which can be suspended during the off season. About the size of a pack of Camels.
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For me, I hunt in a 27 square mile area with a logging road on 4 sides. I make do without a pack and just the contents of my pockets. Unless a lunch is needed. I have no desire to “make do,” I prefer to have what I need and want to make my hunt comfortable. The more comfortable I am , the more likely I am to stay the day and focus on the hunt. I’m just not much for sadomasachism. I do half-days for the most part now. My WMA is 15 minutes away so I can just up and go hunting as the mood strikes me, no big preparation required. That’s how I bagged that scrag last month. Grabbed my stuff, drove over, walked in a few hundred yards, and popped open my stool. 30 minutes later I was tracking. Barely had time to finish my cookies….
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Those stools do look like they'd be pretty noisy to open. Think I'll stick with my buckets. I get those for free and I ain't made of money. I just stack 3 or 4 together, run duct tape down the sides to hold them together, grab the top one by the handle and make the rounds through an area to place pre season. When I place one I remove the handle to eliminate the possibility of it banging against the bucket and making noise when setting it up. I've killed a shytload of deer over the years while perched on one of those buckets.
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With a bit of care, they can be opened very quietly, and are easy to tote. Used my share of buckets too in the past on private land, big orange ones from Home Depot that are easy to find in the dark. Got “headlamp tunnel vision” Monday morning in the dark. Missed my chair by a few yards and had to backtrack.
Seat height matters to this old fatso. The short ones are tough to get up off of without grabbing something. 17” and up, I just stand up. Stand-up exercises are part on my knee job program. Had to stand up and sit down 15 times in 30 seconds to pass my evaluation at the end of PT.
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