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Hope he has deep pockets. The canadian taxpayer should not have to pay for his SAR. Exactly. Imagine how much welfare $$ the search for him took away from immigrants and the unemployed.
4 out of 5 Great Lakes prefer Michigan. 
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I do know that I sleep a lot warmer in a sleeping bag if I have head and neck covered with a ski mask or some such. But those "comfort ratings" are still a big fat lie! There's a big difference in how bags are rated. Recently most of the higher end bag makers have started using the European rating system. It's designed to more accurately compare difference in warmth. With this system, the rating is that which will keep you alive, not warm. To be warm, add about 15 to 20F to the rating. A 0 bag will be warm at 15 to 20F.
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”
― George Orwell
It's not over when you lose. It's over when you quit.
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Seems a bit fishy. Sounds like a great weight loss program though.
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I do know that I sleep a lot warmer in a sleeping bag if I have head and neck covered with a ski mask or some such. But those "comfort ratings" are still a big fat lie! There's a big difference in how bags are rated. Recently most of the higher end bag makers have started using the European rating system. It's designed to more accurately compare difference in warmth. With this system, the rating is that which will keep you alive, not warm. To be warm, add about 15 to 20F to the rating. A 0 bag will be warm at 15 to 20F. That has been my experience over the last few decades. And that's wearing clothes to bed.
The only true cost of having a dog is its death.
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Got a guy up here like 40+ years ago stepped off the road to go fishing .. found him on a river bank sleeping come moose season...lost ALL summer can't remember the amount of days .. I see if I can find the story
I work harder than a ugly stripper....
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Would be funnier if he came back with a tan, 10 lbs heavier, and an STD.
"Yeah honey, I was lost up north for 5 weeks. Don't check the credit card statement." That's why one should never go "camping" with less than $1,000 cash. . With luck, you can stay out for 2 nights.
Last edited by las; 11/27/24.
The only true cost of having a dog is its death.
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Well, I might stand corrected for above, which I have seen quoted. Google Foo says 50-55% of total body heat loss is through the legs and feet. Maybe when you’re sleeping, it sure doesn’t feel that way when you’re active and on your feet. 40 days beyond his food supply? Jesus pulled that off, I dunno about us ordinary humans. Many questions.
"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744
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Yep, 3 minutes without oxy, 3hours in frigid water, 3 days without water, & 3 weeks w/o food.
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kolofardos;
Good evening my friend, I hope the day behaved in acceptable fashion and you're well.
A couple summers back we came down the Alaska Highway and passed through the heart of the area he was in.
Honestly the remoteness of the area is difficult to begin to articulate to folks who've not experienced it first hand.
As we're known to say when we're teaching survival in the Hunter Safety course, "You are very far from your mother's arms"...
I too am keenly interested in the details as to what he was subsisting on.
All the best.
Dwayne
The most important stuff in life isn't "stuff"
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FROM THE ARTICLE - " ... he was suffering from smoke inhalation ..." Huh?? ! Was he hiking in an active forest fire????? It gets screwier and screwier.  L.W.
"Always go straight forward, and if you meet the devil, cut him in two and go between the pieces." (William Sturgis, clipper ship captain, 1830s.)
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Probably his campfire smoke.
People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
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Dude needed to get lost for a while. This is the best lame alibi he could come up with.
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wow must have been some adventure, I wonder what percentage of people caught in that predicament would have given up. I wonder how he could survive while being too stupid to walk out the same road he drove in on.
Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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Probably his campfire smoke. I've built hundreds of campfires over the years, made from all kinds of different firewood, and I've never suffered from smoke inhalation. Nor has any one of my hunting or camping partners. Oh well ....... L.W.
"Always go straight forward, and if you meet the devil, cut him in two and go between the pieces." (William Sturgis, clipper ship captain, 1830s.)
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Its an uneasy feeling being stuck alone in the mountains during the winter. I recently had a little reminder to not take some chances.I got stuck a week or 2 ago at about 9000 ft in 18" of snow. I was headed up a road that didn't have much snow at first but it started getting deeper with no place to turn around. Tried to power up one more little steep spot and the backend slid out and off a fairly steep edge. I couldnt move forward and back was off a steep hill and into the trees.
I thought I might be there at least a few days or maybe more. I had a few days food and a weeks worth of water and a smaller sleeping bag I always try to keep in my hunting truck. After a bit of digging, a crazy plan, and some even crazier driving I some how got out and then managed to spin the front around downhill and got out of there and headed home. Some of those dumb things I did when younger helped me learn how to get out of a bad spot.
I probably shouldn't hunt alone in those conditions but I was glad I didn't have my 12 year old with me. He had something come up last minute. That late archery hunt is open for a few more weeks but I'm not sure if I want to try again. I never even saw a buck.
I hadn't been up that road in 30 years and found out why everyone else turned around much lower. With steep side hills and trees on both sides there just wasn't a good place to turn around. I was planning on turning around first chance but it got too deep too fast.
Bb That's when I put it in reverse and work on my backing up skills. 
Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
I Dindo Nuffin
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That's when I put it in reverse and work on my backing up skills. That can work pretty well, if you're careful. But if you're pulling a trailer ..... then it can become quite exciting.  L.W.
"Always go straight forward, and if you meet the devil, cut him in two and go between the pieces." (William Sturgis, clipper ship captain, 1830s.)
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Would be funnier if he came back with a tan, 10 lbs heavier, and an STD.
"Yeah honey, I was lost up north for 5 weeks. Don't check the credit card statement." Mark Sanford finished the Appalachian Trail and started hiking in BC?
The Alabama Part!
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Hi Dwayne! These days I don't venture up north, or to other remote areas without a Zoleo in the truck or in my pocket. Also a garmin GPS in pocket. We're spoiled with electronics these days, but the ability to communicate with the Zoleo has already saved my butt once.
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I have to admit, there are some aspects of the story which seem more than a little strange. He was in a car, then he wasn't in a car. He was in a remote area, walking down the road. The whole story just sounds weird to me. Was his car broken down? Where did he get the red Honda dirt bike and what happened to it? Also, the timeline is kind of messed up.
I've camped out a lot in -16 to-20C temperatures. I have a good bag and sleep warm. Only issue is it's too cold to read because my hands get cold! If I'm travelling, I can hardly eat enough to maintain my weight. GD
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