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Good evening, gentlemen. I have an adapter for my Hi Power. What is the correct way to use it? Can I use any 22 long rifle cartridge?
Thanks.. BP...
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I have seen a few with split necks but don't know the cause. Maybe an oversized chamber neck area or head space. I have always used standard velocity rounds but I think HV's would be fine. I have several of them.
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I have several too. While they are an intriguing idea, practically speaking they only work so-so. I chalk that up to the .223" rimfire bullets being asked to play well in the .227-.228" bores, after rattling out of generously dimensioned adapters. Beer cans at 50 paces aren't safe though, most of the time, nor would bunnies be if pot meat is one's quest, I suppose.
I've used mine in three different rifles and got the same mediocre results in all of them. Standard velocity ammo was all I ventured to try. As for cracked necks in the adapter, I also have one like that (which I do not use) and I can't say why it's so. Soft steel construction, mated to an oversize chamber neck (not uncommon in early Savages), exacerbated by high(er) pressure zippy ammo - or combination of all three? Dunno.
I have acquired a selection of various adapters for a few different cartridges, and none of them perform well enough to write home to Mom about - .32 S&W in .30-06 (a Winchester branded adapter) comes closest. I've been meaning to try to make the .22LR/.22HP adapters work better but frankly haven't found the time.
My idea is to introduce a proper diameter bullet into the HP bore by loading a .228" cast bullet into an adapter, and then fire it with a pinch of Bullseye powder in an empty primed .22LR case (several thousand of which I happen to be sitting on). Obviously that big of a bullet won't fit into a .22 rimfire case, but if I insert the charged case first and then thumb seat the larger bullet into the mouth of the adapter down onto the case mouth (the adapters I have possess mouths sufficiently generously large to do this) it might/should work in theory - BUT how much Bullseye to employ to drive a heavier than "normal" bullet, at a useful velocity without rupturing anything? In the end it's a matter of how far does one want to go......
(I have loaded my own .22LR's with both a custom mould I have and also with bullets from a Lyman #225438 without its gas check. 1 1/2gr. Bullseye works pretty well. It's an endeavor best carried out for no dammed good reason, when frittering time or feeling bored. Accuracy at 50 yards off the bench, with a bumblebee target rifle that'll normally print five Eley Tenex's into 1/4" or less, is around 1/2-3/4" - not all that bad in the whole scheme of things but would Mom care to hear about that also? I've also breech seated lead bullets into a .22LR chamber using the time honored old Schuetzen technique, with the same empty primed .22 cases that I bought for no other reason than "Why not". Accuracy was better than with fixed reloaded ammo, but still not up to factory premo target ammo standards.)
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Thanks all. Question... how do you load the cartridge in the adapter?
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Slide the firing pin out (if it's gummed up you may have to pry it back with a fingernail by prying on its collar visible through the window), eject the empty with a rod (or the skinny end of the firing pin), insert fresh cartridge, re-insert firing pin with the end with the t*t bearing against the case head, shoot, repeat. Take care to position the little tensioner spring away from the window on the side of the extractor.
One thing I failed to mention about these things is that one's firing pin smacks against the steel floating firing pin inside the adapter. Steel-on-steel doesn't strike me as a recipe for long life for a rifle's firing pin, but who knows....
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Test fit it in the chamber empty first. I have a few and had one with a oversized neck that got stuck in the chamber... loaded. I had to pry it out. I also acquired one that has the neck roughly thinned down that I assume had the same issue. Being steel I don't think they will expand any when used, but I have not used any with the high power loads available today. Since they don't expand I don't think they fully seal the chamber, so you may foul it some if you use them a lot. With most of the other Marble's adapters the case of the cartridge extents out the front of the adapter.
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