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Current truck is a 24 Ford F350 CC SB with the 7.3 gasser and 4:30 gears. Great rig, zero issues to date (11K miles), OK mpg. Hauled a 7K trailer and had over 3K in the bed during my drive from TN to AK and averaged in the low 10's for the entire distance. Towing is interesting in hilly country as it will often downshift and bring the rpms up to 4,000 or higher. Kind of alarming until you get used to it.
The ride is totally dependent on the load and the tire pressure. When not towing or carrying less than 1,000 pounds I run 45-48 in the rear tires and 55 in the front. Rides great. If you want to run empty with the tire pressure that is on the door jam sticker expect to be bounced all over the place. What is the pressure stated on door sticker? Does dropping it trigger the TPMS? Front is 60 Rear is 80. Yes the TPMS light comes on. It is very small and appears in the bottom right of the dash. The tire pressures also appear every time I start it (which I like). Hit the button on the steering wheel and it disappears. Payload is almost 4,200 pounds. There can be a wide range of pressures and load capacity as I believe Ford equips these trucks with tires hanging from 17's to 20's.
My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost.
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If you are going to tow heavy at close to maximum tow ratings, chose the lowest (highest number) gear ratio that is offered. Often you have to order or search for lower geared units because the manufacturers tend to make more of the higher geared units.
I realize that OP asked for a Ford GM comparison. My experience is with a 2018 Ram 2500 with 6.4 L Hemi with the lowest offered 4.10 gears pulling a 14K equipment trailer with industrial loader tractor combo that is about 1000 pounds under the trucks 15,500 pound rating. It handles the load well once you get used to the higher RPM's. I am glad that I chose the 4.10 gears versus the 3.73 gears.
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I really wanted a 2024 F250 - 350 with the 7.3 gas engine. Got prices at 2 different dealers on the truck I wanted. Ended up buying another Ram 3500 single wheel 4x4 diesel for very close to the same money. The Ford is a really nice truck and every time I fill up with DEF or change the oil I second guess my purchase of a diesel truck.
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So it’s legal to overload an F250 or 2500 with airbags commercially? ![[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]](https://i.ibb.co/k6B312g/00-C5-CB66-F8-DC-46-DC-B725-CD5-E0-DD8-C1-A2.gif) The law has nothing to do with load, just GVWR. A commercial one ton truck with a box of apples in the back across state lines is subject to the DOT rules. Logbooks, drifer qualification files, medical card, vehicle maintenance program, annual inspection, etc, etc. And going to a car race or rodeo to compete for prizes is considered commercial by the DOT. If you don't need the GVWR, best not to volunteer for those priviliges. As Rockchuck pointed out, the only difference is the rear springs. If if bothers you to exceed the GVWR with airbags, you are more than welcome to go the DOT route. The F250 has the 10.5" Sterling rear end. The F350 has a Dana. Or a Sterling. Apparently it depends on the gear ratio you pick. If that kind of thing matters to a new buyer, they might have to dig a little deeper.
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I have a 22 I bought on 12-30 of 21. I have just under 40k miles. about a third of those miles are towing a travel trailer. I had a cat go out at 20k replaced under warranty. I change my oil at 5000 mile intervals. No problems at all other than the cat.
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So it’s legal to overload an F250 or 2500 with airbags commercially? ![[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]](https://i.ibb.co/k6B312g/00-C5-CB66-F8-DC-46-DC-B725-CD5-E0-DD8-C1-A2.gif) The law has nothing to do with load, just GVWR. A commercial one ton truck with a box of apples in the back across state lines is subject to the DOT rules. Logbooks, drifer qualification files, medical card, vehicle maintenance program, annual inspection, etc, etc. And going to a car race or rodeo to compete for prizes is considered commercial by the DOT. If you don't need the GVWR, best not to volunteer for those priviliges. As Rockchuck pointed out, the only difference is the rear springs. If if bothers you to exceed the GVWR with airbags, you are more than welcome to go the DOT route. The F250 has the 10.5" Sterling rear end. The F350 has a Dana. Or a Sterling. Apparently it depends on the gear ratio you pick. If that kind of thing matters to a new buyer, they might have to dig a little deeper. F 350 when ordered with 4.30 you get the Dana rear end.
Last edited by 79S; 12/14/24. Reason: Oops not 4.56 meant 4.30
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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I believe the only ratios available on the diesel Superduty F350 are 3:31. 3:55, and 4:30 For the gas version they are 3:73 and 4:30.
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I believe the only ratios available on the diesel Superduty F350 are 3:31. 3:55, and 4:30 For the gas version they are 3:73 and 4:30. You are correct have no idea why I was thinking 4.56 lol. But 4.30 come with the Dana rear ends. Few yrs back I think 2022 ford had a recall on the Dana rear ends.
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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Doing this thought process now. We recently purchased a skid steer for use at the farm/ranch, which are 240 miles apart. As such, there are times where we want the equipment at one place or the other and need to haul it there. Purchased a used dump trailer with ramps/tie downs to haul it but our only trucks are 1/2 ton Silverados. Looking to potentially get one 3/4 ton gasser. We have always run GM products as a long time friend of mine owns the local dealerships and my son works there. But would consider a F250 (used) as they have them from time to time. Probably will only haul the skid steer 4-5 times per year. The other consideration is that my real job has a 54 mile commute each day and I am sure the mpg would be down, even from the 6.2 in my current 1500.
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I've got a 2022 GMC with a 6.6 L and it's the best pickup I've ever had. On occasion I'll pull a trailer with a Bobcat on it. It's a load, but it'll pull it. Not sure if I'd want to drag a Bobcat 240 miles back and forth with it though. Gas mileage runs 12.5 mpg under normal situations, but about 18 or 19 mpg on the highway. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/oGfzTzpl.jpg)
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I put 17" wheels on my 2022 F250, slightly bigger tires and bilstein shocks on all 4 corners. Ride is noticeably improved.
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I've got a 2022 GMC with a 6.6 L and it's the best pickup I've ever had. On occasion I'll pull a trailer with a Bobcat on it. It's a load, but it'll pull it. Not sure if I'd want to drag a Bobcat 240 miles back and forth with it though. Gas mileage runs 12.5 mpg under normal situations, but about 18 or 19 mpg on the highway. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/oGfzTzpl.jpg) The route we have to take between the 2 properties has minimal hills and is 2 lane, so high speeds are not needed. Not sure if that impacts your thought on a skid steer with the 2500?
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How much does the skid steer weigh?
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How much does the skid steer weigh? The skid steer is right at 10,000 lbs with no attachments. We will haul those on a separate trailer.
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Gas mileage runs 12.5 mpg under normal situations, but about 18 or 19 mpg on the highway. Highway speed? Interstate speed limits here on the prairie are 75-80 depending on what state you're in. I'm typically driving 4-5Mi over. If I could get a 3/4 gas that'd make 15MPG @ 80 empty I'd be very interested.
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How much does the skid steer weigh? The skid steer is right at 10,000 lbs with no attachments. We will haul those on a separate trailer. I’d hate hauling that 240 mi. with a 3/4 gasser unless they’ve come a long ways in ten years .
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How much does the skid steer weigh? The skid steer is right at 10,000 lbs with no attachments. We will haul those on a separate trailer. I’d hate hauling that 240 mi. with a 3/4 gasser unless they’ve come a long ways in ten years . They have. My ‘23 F250 7.3 gasser tows very well. John
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
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I know Chevy and Ford went bigger displacement . I can see with the right gearing and good trailer brakes would be tolerable.
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Not sure why to bother with a 3/4 ton. The 1 ton is only about 1200 more. Had my f350 about 3 weeks now. Its nice. Mb
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I've got a 2022 GMC with a 6.6 L and it's the best pickup I've ever had. On occasion I'll pull a trailer with a Bobcat on it. It's a load, but it'll pull it. Not sure if I'd want to drag a Bobcat 240 miles back and forth with it though. Gas mileage runs 12.5 mpg under normal situations, but about 18 or 19 mpg on the highway. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/oGfzTzpl.jpg) 8 speed trans or 10 speed? I can't remember if it was 2022 or 2023 when the 10 speed came along.
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