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I think sometimes when I see what these are going for that I should sell it but then I pick it up and it feels great. Shoot a few through it and it feels even better. Then I put away any notion of selling it.

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It would be hilarious if Colt introduced a 32 before Smith. Put it in the KC frame.

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Originally Posted by viking
It would be hilarious if Colt introduced a 32 before Smith. Put it in the KC frame.



Even better.

When Ruger puts it in a Redhawk or Super Redhawk.

If 10 fits? Why not a 32?


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Originally Posted by Mackay_Sagebrush
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.32s are becoming more and more popular and the big makers are recognizing this. You can expect to see some cool things in the future.

Any insight, or are you sworn to secrecy?

Not at liberty to say at the moment but there are some quite cool things on the deck. The .32s are becoming more and more popular and the big gun manufacturers are paying attention.

Also, fans of the .41 Magnum will be happy, as there are new developments in that arena as well.

In fact I just put out a .41 Magnum "light" load, which is a 215 grain poly coat SWC that clocks out at 900 FPS from a 5" N Frame. It is a low recoil, very fun and practical load. This was developed in conjunction with what is about to be introduced.

There are also some very interesting things (big bore revolver wise) that will be introduced at the end of next month at SHOT show 2025. Nice and practical field type guns.

I cannot go any further than that as it is absolutely not my place to do so.


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Originally Posted by mart
I think sometimes when I see what these are going for that I should sell it but then I pick it up and it feels great. Shoot a few through it and it feels even better. Then I put away any notion of selling it.

Four inch S&W 631.

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I don't know why in the world S&W ever dropped that configuration. Besides being an excellent .22, it would make a perfect platform for a .32 H&R or .38 Special "packin' gun" as John Taffin would say. Even better than that 3" full underlug model I posted earlier.


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Originally Posted by viking
It would be hilarious if Colt introduced a 32 before Smith. Put it in the KC frame.

They could call it a Diamondback 32.

It would sell silly.

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Will anyone start producing good 32H&R ammo? What’s on the market is very limiting and not conducive to increasing popularity of the 32. I wish Speer would bring back the 115gr GD for reloaders and as a factory self defense load.


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Originally Posted by HawkI
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It would be hilarious if Colt introduced a 32 before Smith. Put it in the KC frame.

They could call it a Diamondback 32.

It would sell silly.

A Diamondback 32. I’d end up doing something financially irresponsible.


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Originally Posted by mart
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It would be hilarious if Colt introduced a 32 before Smith. Put it in the KC frame.

They could call it a Diamondback 32.

It would sell silly.

A Diamondback 32. I’d end up doing something financially irresponsible.

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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
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Meh, not impressed. That gun NEEDS to be steel. I know, I have had one for several years.

Now, Where in the HECK is that 3 inch LCRx in 327 Fed mag????????????
As shown at Lipseys. https://www.lipseys.com/itemdetail?itemno=RUKLCRX-3-327

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I attended in June the annual Smith & Wesson Collectors Association meeting held in Tulsa this year. Andrew Gore, S&W product manager, gave a presentation and held an open Q&A at the end. He asked what people would like to see in the future. I stated "a K frame .32". He got a grin on his face and said "you should be very happy soon". There were no other details, but I am anxiously waiting...

This might serve my wants if in a three or four inch, with an exposed hammer.

I have never held a K frame, a couple J frame 22s, and N Frames only.

How would a J frame compare to an LCR in size and weight? It would need to be a bit smaller than my 4.2 inch SP 101 to interest me.

Here ya go!


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I have a S&W 31-1 32 S&W Long/Short
a Walther 32 ACP PPKS
Beretta Tom cat 31 ACP
and a Taurus 327 Federal mag.


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I don't really need another 32, but I'd have a hard time resisting the right one. Thinking about a Kel-Tec P32. I also have a Henry 327 Federal. I can't really explain why, but I love 32s.

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I bought an I-frame S&W 32 Long that’s a lot of fun back when I had to scrimp to pay for it. Compact and accurate.
I believe the build date on it is 1907.

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What’s out there for 32 H&R mag ammo?

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From all the hints above, it sounds like we may see some new ammo on the market, following the intro of new guns.

Meantime, reloading 32s and 41s brings out the best of these calibers. Starline has made it easier to find good brass for 32 Long and H & R Mag as well as offering cases with the "41 Special" stamp. The 30 Super Carry brass should be out soon (I hope) to furnish more 32 caliber opportunities. It is a 32 caliber also, in spite of its name. It is a good time to be reloading.

The Model 16 K frame H & R is a little heavier than I prefer for a trail gun, while my M-31 in S & W Long doesn't have adjustable sights. My Ruger SSM in 32 H & R is fun, but would also be more useful for me if a better sighting system were used. Yes, the reintroduction of the M-631 would sell well.

If Mackay_Sagebrush is loading the 41 at 900 fps, a "41 Lite" or "41 Special" level, there is renewed enthusiasm for the range.

This new 32 DA-only has some appeal; the market will determine its future. Thanks to Ruger for making this effort.


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Originally Posted by mart
I think sometimes when I see what these are going for that I should sell it but then I pick it up and it feels great. Shoot a few through it and it feels even better. Then I put away any notion of selling it.

Four inch S&W 631.

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I bought mine a handful of years ago in nearby San Antonio. I handled it and it was clearly little fired so I bought it. There was an elder gentleman behind me lurking. I completed the purchase and walked to my car. I had a tap on the window so I dropped it. "Do you know what you just bought?" Yep...


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Originally Posted by Border Doc
From all the hints above, it sounds like we may see some new ammo on the market, following the intro of new guns.

Meantime, reloading 32s and 41s brings out the best of these calibers. Starline has made it easier to find good brass for 32 Long and H & R Mag as well as offering cases with the "41 Special" stamp. The 30 Super Carry brass should be out soon (I hope) to furnish more 32 caliber opportunities. It is a 32 caliber also, in spite of its name. It is a good time to be reloading.

The Model 16 K frame H & R is a little heavier than I prefer for a trail gun, while my M-31 in S & W Long doesn't have adjustable sights. My Ruger SSM in 32 H & R is fun, but would also be more useful for me if a better sighting system were used. Yes, the reintroduction of the M-631 would sell well.

If Mackay_Sagebrush is loading the 41 at 900 fps, a "41 Lite" or "41 Special" level, there is renewed enthusiasm for the range.

This new 32 DA-only has some appeal; the market will determine its future. Thanks to Ruger for making this effort.


The market has a long way to go for decent H&R ammo. Federal has some interesting loadings for the 327 with the 104gr HST and a 127gr HP, although neither bullet is available to reloaders. Their H&R offerings are crap.
Hopefully someone comes out with full power 100-115gr loads for hunting/self defense.


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Originally Posted by Kodiakisland
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From all the hints above, it sounds like we may see some new ammo on the market, following the intro of new guns.

Meantime, reloading 32s and 41s brings out the best of these calibers. Starline has made it easier to find good brass for 32 Long and H & R Mag as well as offering cases with the "41 Special" stamp. The 30 Super Carry brass should be out soon (I hope) to furnish more 32 caliber opportunities. It is a 32 caliber also, in spite of its name. It is a good time to be reloading.

The Model 16 K frame H & R is a little heavier than I prefer for a trail gun, while my M-31 in S & W Long doesn't have adjustable sights. My Ruger SSM in 32 H & R is fun, but would also be more useful for me if a better sighting system were used. Yes, the reintroduction of the M-631 would sell well.

If Mackay_Sagebrush is loading the 41 at 900 fps, a "41 Lite" or "41 Special" level, there is renewed enthusiasm for the range.

This new 32 DA-only has some appeal; the market will determine its future. Thanks to Ruger for making this effort.


The market has a long way to go for decent H&R ammo. Federal has some interesting loadings for the 327 with the 104gr HST and a 127gr HP, although neither bullet is available to reloaders. Their H&R offerings are crap.
Hopefully someone comes out with full power 100-115gr loads for hunting/self defense.


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Originally Posted by Kodiakisland
Originally Posted by Border Doc
From all the hints above, it sounds like we may see some new ammo on the market, following the intro of new guns.

Meantime, reloading 32s and 41s brings out the best of these calibers. Starline has made it easier to find good brass for 32 Long and H & R Mag as well as offering cases with the "41 Special" stamp. The 30 Super Carry brass should be out soon (I hope) to furnish more 32 caliber opportunities. It is a 32 caliber also, in spite of its name. It is a good time to be reloading.

The Model 16 K frame H & R is a little heavier than I prefer for a trail gun, while my M-31 in S & W Long doesn't have adjustable sights. My Ruger SSM in 32 H & R is fun, but would also be more useful for me if a better sighting system were used. Yes, the reintroduction of the M-631 would sell well.

If Mackay_Sagebrush is loading the 41 at 900 fps, a "41 Lite" or "41 Special" level, there is renewed enthusiasm for the range.

This new 32 DA-only has some appeal; the market will determine its future. Thanks to Ruger for making this effort.


The market has a long way to go for decent H&R ammo. Federal has some interesting loadings for the 327 with the 104gr HST and a 127gr HP, although neither bullet is available to reloaders. Their H&R offerings are crap.
Hopefully someone comes out with full power 100-115gr loads for hunting/self defense.

I think current H&R loads are fine. Heck, I mostly load it to .32 Long levels of performance anyway. If I want something for self defense I reach for a .45 not a .32.

A .32 is a wonderful woods companion for small game and targets of opportunity but lacking as a serious tool for defense against stuff that would eat/kill you no matter how hot you load it (but better than a sharp stick I suppose). Conversely a heavy caliber suitable for the latter sucks for the former. Always a compromise.....


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I like that there are choices and differences. I'm inclusive thataway.

But for my porpoises, there is nothing I won't do with a .38 that I would with a .32 of any sort. I get the 6 shots in a smaller frame thing.
Still...

But there is a shelf full of cool looking older .32s at my LGS. I hear them calling...


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