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Everybody loves to brag on their primo .22 rifles, who doesn't? But do you have any garden variety ones that hold a favored place?
Reason for asking is I'm on somewhat of an old .22 rifle kick these days. Not the fancy ones, but the kind that you'd get at Sears or the "Hardware and Sporting Goods" store for $25-$35 back in the day.
Last week I found a Marlin 80DL, a magazine fed bolt action made in various iterations from 1935 up through 1971. My research on this one puts DOM between 1957 and 1961. It originally came with a Marlin peep sight and hooded bead front but someone had replaced those with a Lyman 55 peep and 17A globe front.
Whoever owned it took good care of it. Bluing and wood finish are still in great shape, I'd rate them together around 96-98% maybe. Best 50 yard group so far is .592" with Norma Tac-22 but otherwise it's unremarkable, Federal Automatch, Super-X, CCI Mini-mag and such are good for 3/4" to 1 1/4" groups. I could probably blame my eyes for that, maybe I'll put a 35 year old Leupold 12X scope on it to see what it will do, or maybe not.
I didn't get it to shoot groups next to the T1x or the 457 Varmint model, I got it because it's a neat old rifle that I would have drooled over as an 8 year old kid. It's very lightweight at 5 lbs 4 oz with great ergos and balance, it comes up with a solid cheek weld and the sights are lined up dead on target. I do have a 1946 Remington 513T that will shoot groups alongside the Tikka and CZ, but it's kind of heavy.
Currently got my eye on an older Remington 512 in great shape on gunbroker. I talked to the seller and he gave me the back story on the guy he got it from. Or maybe a 581 like I used to have, or a 582; local stores want too much for examples of the latter two but we'll see.
Anyway, among your Annies and Vudoos and $1000 10/22's, you got any JC Higgins or Glenfields that still get taken out and enjoyed?
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I've got Dad's old Stevens 86D, an old boltgun that Dad used for market hunting back in the Great Depression, and then for practically everything else that walked, flew, or swam. I used it to kill my first rabbit and squirrel, and learned how to shoot with it. It's bore is still excellent, but the sear and safety didn't work any more, until this spring when I found a real, genuine gunsmith who knew and understood the old guns, and he refurbished it to like-new status. For Dad, it was just a tool, it stood behind the porch door, or rode in the pickup's gun rack, or even in the bed of the truck, along with the bleeding coons and such. The metal finish is poor, to say the least, but it works just fine, and my stepbrother had refinished the stock on it some time ago, so it doesn't look real awful. It's just a good old rifle, but it'll still kill a coon (I've shot a few this fall with it).
I've also got an old Remington M24 Short only, but it's bore is really, really BAD, from LESMOK ammo use, and lack of care for it. It'll still kill a coon, but the bore is half-gone. It was in an old shooting gallery back in the day, and only has a five round capacity, but that's enough for my uses.
Everything else I have, aside from my old Marlin 60 (1971 vintage), is rather new. As long as I only load 15 rounds in the tube, it works fine. I'd left it with Dad while I was in the Army, though, and he carried it in the same gunrack in his pickup, and a lot of the bluing is worn off the barrel. No matter, it shoots okay.
Dad was pretty hard on his tools, and the rifles show that.
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The first firearm I learned to shoot with. Dad's old Savage. ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/q79LQwzw/Savage-7-A-04.jpg) ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/fRNKQ0zB/Savage-7-A-01.jpg)
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I just bought a "cheap" one, and I'm loving it!! ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/2IkdAqo.jpg) ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/Zm2J71H.jpg) Was shooting another "cheap" Savage yesterday. This one cost me $199.99: ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/eu2jugm.jpg)
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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The first firearm I learned to shoot with. Dad's old Savage. ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/q79LQwzw/Savage-7-A-04.jpg) ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/fRNKQ0zB/Savage-7-A-01.jpg) That is very cool. I have an old Coast to Coast 285N, that my grandpa gave me when I was 12, that is the same thing as your Savage model 7. I need to get it out and totally go through it though. Replace the stock and probably barrel too, and extractors and springs. I wore it out, as a kid shooting tons of jackrabbits with it.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I've got Dad's old Stevens 86D, an old boltgun that Dad used for market hunting back in the Great Depression, and then for practically everything else that walked, flew, or swam. I used it to kill my first rabbit and squirrel, and learned how to shoot with it. It's bore is still excellent, but the sear and safety didn't work any more, until this spring when I found a real, genuine gunsmith who knew and understood the old guns, and he refurbished it to like-new status. For Dad, it was just a tool, it stood behind the porch door, or rode in the pickup's gun rack, or even in the bed of the truck, along with the bleeding coons and such. The metal finish is poor, to say the least, but it works just fine, and my stepbrother had refinished the stock on it some time ago, so it doesn't look real awful. It's just a good old rifle, but it'll still kill a coon (I've shot a few this fall with it).
I've also got an old Remington M24 Short only, but it's bore is really, really BAD, from LESMOK ammo use, and lack of care for it. It'll still kill a coon, but the bore is half-gone. It was in an old shooting gallery back in the day, and only has a five round capacity, but that's enough for my uses.
Everything else I have, aside from my old Marlin 60 (1971 vintage), is rather new. As long as I only load 15 rounds in the tube, it works fine. I'd left it with Dad while I was in the Army, though, and he carried it in the same gunrack in his pickup, and a lot of the bluing is worn off the barrel. No matter, it shoots okay.
Dad was pretty hard on his tools, and the rifles show that. My dad was fairly easy on his rifles, and taught me to keep very good care of mine. My grandpa was also a stickler on how you treated your rifles. Here's an old Mossberg 642KD Chuckster that my dad used in Pennsylvania. He had it worn out, when he gave it to me. It would not extract or eject spent cartridges anymore. I replaced every spring, extractor, ejector and worn part in it. I also fine tuned the trigger, so it is a safe and clean 2.5 pounds For as many rounds that my dad fired through it, she's still a shooter!!! ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/lDxS6zs.jpg) I also added the aperture sights, as shown in the pic.. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/XeZ6LmR.jpg)
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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It's been a few years now, certainly pre-Biden, but I have less than $400 in a pair of a old Remingtons, a 512 & a 550-1. Both in great shape, function well & I enjoy them as much or more than most of my others.
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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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While I very much enjoy the higher end rimfire, the ones I've been enjoying lately have come at a much lower price.
A couple sporter weight Winchesters with peeps sights are getting some love.
There is one model 57 and one 75 have been a blast to play with. A little more pricy, but ithe 75 target is a nice departure from the Annie and Vudoo game.
The 57 is well loved and needed some small parts to make it whole...but it's a neat little rifle and a blast to shoot.
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The Glenfield Model 60 "Squirrel Gun" was the 1st gun I bought (well, dad actually bought it) with my own money in '73 when I was 14 yrs old. K-Mart had 'em on sale for $35. Back then, $35 was a 7 weeks allowance. I still have it.
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MIC, I saw a Savage Model 7 for sale recently, but it was no near as nice as the one you have sir
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Mossbergs of almost any flavor work for me with my favorites being 42Ms…….also have a “beautiful” Norinco JW-15 that I have around $100 in that will shoot with much more expensive rifles……seems like almost any .22 from around 100 years ago will shoot extremely well - the older Remingtons and Winchesters that I have can be spectacular with the right ammo. Really haven’t ever met a .22 I didn’t like though so I may be biased.
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I have a cheap savage that shoots very consistently. About an 8" pattern regardless of ammo. I will never buy another cheap firearms.
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I have a cheap savage that shoots very consistently. About an 8" pattern regardless of ammo. I will never buy another cheap firearms. Minute of barn door shooter
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I have a cheap savage that shoots very consistently. About an 8" pattern regardless of ammo. I will never buy another cheap firearms. Sounds like you got a lemon. That is very non typical for a Savage 22lr.. Most shoot damn well.. Here's the cheapest rifle I have bought to date, or in the last 10 years.. It cost $199.99 back in 2019. It's a single shot Savage MK1 FVT. It's set up more as a youth target rifle, in factory form: ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/oH5qzOz.jpg) With irons sights, this was the first 10 shot group from that rifle: ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/fQvVRMP.jpg) It likes the older Norma match ammo. I later put that in a Boyd's laminate stock, and it's still a damn good shooter. It gives rifles that cost 10 times what I paid for it, a run for their money. The Savage MK2 FVT, that I sold at the beginning of this year shoots just as well. Here's a group I shot, to confirm it is a shooter. I threw a scope on it, to test it's true potential: ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/26a11MT.jpg) ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/hR7R41p.jpg) This was the first time that rifle had been scoped: ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/H4XpVMK.jpg) I always just used the factory supplied iron sights. Here's another with cheap American Eagle ammo: ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/TFkf1ES.jpg) And another, just for fun, with some different/better ammo: ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/3sJv9HX.jpg) I traded that Savage for a CZ457 American, a few weeks after I shot those targets. So, can cheap rifles shoot? Hell yes they can!!
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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My favorite is still my Marlin 989M2. Light, accurate and dependable to this day. Will still put 5 Mini Mag hollow points in a group you can cover with a nickel at 50 yards. It has killed everything from chipmunks and bullfrogs to deer in my hands. This was my first .22 purchased from the hardware store in town with money I earned mowing lawns when I was 14. Best 59.95 I ever spent.
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What fresh Hell is this?
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7 shot clip according to Marlin. Of course campfire gun nerds would insist on calling it a detachable box magazine. The 99M1 was the same rifle with a 9 shot tube magazine. The clip magazine is much handier in a State that doesn't allow loaded firearms in or on a motorized vehicle.
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BSA.....I have a Savage Mk 1 like yours; gave $100 for it last year. My results are pretty much like yours. I bought it off the Iowa Boy Scouts Council. They went to the newer magazine rifle. Being a Boy Scout gun, who knows how many thousands of rounds have been shot in it? And it still is crazy accurate.
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Have an old Marlin tube feed 22 mg bolt GU I haven't shot for years. Used to make some long for me shots on tree rats in heavy oak timber in NW Misery. I am looking for one of the old single shot 22 RF guns like I used to shoot. Remington or Winchester made the one I remember. There was a Springfield one as well. It had the cocking piece that was pulled to the rear. The barrel and action were machined of one piece. Every one I shot was a precise shooter. RZ.
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