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The list of cartridges I don’t shoot is long and distinguished. The Creedmoor just happens to be one of those.
By not using the Creedmoor or any of those cartridges on that list doesn’t make them worthless, just not necessary as I have killed everything I ever wanted with the short list of cartridges I already have…
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The 6.5 Creedmoor seems like the 1st cartridge developed where the rifle manufacturers and the ammo manufacturers got together and said:
"Let's get the rifling twist, chamber, magazine confines, and factory ammo sorted out properly for the up and coming crop of high BC projectiles." "Let's start this new line of thinking with a mild-recoiling cartridge, that lower recoil should appeal to a wider swath of shooters."
"I just bet the shooting public would appreciate a cartridge that didn't have to trade BC for powder capacity in either direction, they'd rather have both."
"While we're at it, let's NOT put a short action cartridge into a long action, nor create some proprietary one-off magazine or action length to give shooters both BC AND powder capacity, let's design the case to work with what we've already got."
Born out of this beyond the Creedmoor family, is the PRC and ARC families.
Seems like the answer from the shooting public has been:
"When you guys mate the rifle and the ammo properly, we'll buy new rifles so-chambered and we'll shoot them a lot more."
I don't own a 6.5 CreedMoor. I did recently have a Kimber re-barreled to 22 CreedMoor.
I eagerly await the arrival of a commercialized 1:7-ish 223 AI using ~2.5"-2.6" magazines, internal or removable. Yes, I can shorten a spacer, ejector, and bolt-stop on my own, but it'd be nice not to have to.
I don't care what name the marketers use.
I can walk on water.......................but I do stagger a bit on alcohol.
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The step "down" to Kreed,is rather often a big step UP for many. The reduction in recoil being a driver,along with Factory Fodder that doesn't suck,tends to promote practice. Practice VERY much factors into the Terminal Effects Equation and that more than tips the scale. Hint. This ^^^^^^ I’ve owned mine since 2017. Used on a deer and elk every year since, plus one ph. No sweat….. It’s a sweetheart to shoot and has great bullets. For most first time buyers, this is my idea of the easy button.
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Some people can’t take a joke.
I prefer classic. Semper Fi I used to run with the hare. Now I'm envious of the tortoise and I do my own stunts but rarely intentionally
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Completely off topic, but that’s nothing new here, one of your photos shows (I believe?) flechette rockets on their way to the target. How much use did they see and how effective were they?
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A Brokeback Mountain cowboy with nothing that goes together!!
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I really think the 6.5 CM really shines in long range shooting training. It's accurate, affordable, easy to shoot and carries the distance to 1,000 + yards with high BC bullets. When it comes to training, low recoil and high performance go a long way in helping people to become better marksmen. As hunting cartridge, it's fine, just like the 260 Rem and others before it. I have one and another barrel on the way for my Terminus Zeus QC but if I were only interested in hunting, I'd still choose a 270W.
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Anyone that shoots the creedmoor, knows it's capable. There's no denying it. Those that don't know, like to make fun of it. They are the very definition of IGNORANT though.. Here is a little saying. You don't know, what you don't know.
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Oh the things you hear at gun stores sometimes... Oh the things you witness at the gun range at times... My favorite ever Ernie Do you have ammunition for a Browning LEFT handed 270 Win? Not Right handed! People who are "Left-Handed" always emphasize (Left) not sure why. Must be a left-handed thing. I'm Ambidextrous, I have a daughter who is left- handed and a son who is right-handed. They must have gotten their traits from me.
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More than enough to inflict MUCH Emotional Damage and fuel countless Hurt Feeler Reports,if only obviously. Hint.
Just sayin'................. Yep! Have taken quite a few animals with the 6.5 CM--along with other cartridges with very similar ballistics, including the .260 Remington and 6.5x55. The 6.5x55 has worked very well on larger-than-deer big game for well over a century, though accuracy doesn't always matched the 6.5 CM's, due to widely varying throat lengths and rifles. Have even seen the 6.5 CM kill a big bull elk in thick timber, with one 140-grain Nosler AccuBond--which exited on a broadside shot behind the shoulders. The range was about 50 yards--and the bull went the typical "about 50 yards" before falling. That was in 2017. Haven't had any qualms about using the Creedmoor on big game since then--but didn't beforehand, due to plenty of experience with the 6.5x55.... now do elk at 1200 yards with the 6.5 crud, I've done 60+" moose in 2014 with the 338 Edge
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The only thing you "do",is fill out Brokedick Professional Victim Hurt Feeler Reports. Hint.
Just sayin'.................
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