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Only looking at the numbers, but the 109 (.295) is slightly higher than the 88 (.274).
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and what cartridge is being used also ?
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Depends. For up to 500 yards probably not but past that most likely.
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Never had any luck getting a 6mm bullet down a .224 tube.
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Only looking at the numbers, but the 109 (.295) is slightly higher than the 88 (.274). G1 is .545 for the 88 & .557 for the 109. I point my 105 Berger VLD's & use .580 for corrected BC, plus add a small velocity gain with the lighter bullet. Win/win to the Berger......
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Only looking at the numbers, but the 109 (.295) is slightly higher than the 88 (.274). G1 is .545 for the 88 & .557 for the 109. I point my 105 Berger VLD's & use .580 for corrected BC, plus add a small velocity gain with the lighter bullet. Win/win to the Berger...... Hornady says 0.585 G1 for the 109 ELD.
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There's conflicting numbers on the factory 6 GT ammo and some other places.
I've run the advertised .295 G7 BC without adjustment in both a Dasher and Creedmoor...however that equates...
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Regarding Midway's pricing, that's Berger rich right there and they aren't Bergers.
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For those of you that have shot both the 108 and 109 eld
Do you notice much if any difference in drop/drift inside 600 yards? Is the terminal performance of the 109 about the same as the 108?
I plan on giving the 109 a try sometime but I still have few thousand 108s on the shelf
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For those of you that have shot both the 108 and 109 eld
Do you notice much if any difference in drop/drift inside 600 yards? Is the terminal performance of the 109 about the same as the 108?
I plan on giving the 109 a try sometime but I still have few thousand 108s on the shelf Can't help you with the terminal performance on game with the 109s...couple K I have shot have all been on steel... The 109s are more consistent BTO and the advertised BC has held true, unlike the 108s which I had to throttle back.
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I noticed the info on the 108 was a little proud in my rifles too. I'll give the 109s a try soon. Seems like a decent jump in numbers for a 1 grain weight penalty
Thanks Josh.
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Only looking at the numbers, but the 109 (.295) is slightly higher than the 88 (.274). G1 is .545 for the 88 & .557 for the 109. I point my 105 Berger VLD's & use .580 for corrected BC, plus add a small velocity gain with the lighter bullet. Win/win to the Berger...... Hornady says 0.585 G1 for the 109 ELD. Depends on where you look, I got it from here: https://www.hornady.com/ammunition/rifle/6mm-gt-109-gr-eld-match#!/#specs Midway shows .585.
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Then there's the Barnes 112 with a claimed G1 of .623. I've only had then to 520 yards but my dope was dead on the money using that number.
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Only looking at the numbers, but the 109 (.295) is slightly higher than the 88 (.274). G1 is .545 for the 88 & .557 for the 109. I point my 105 Berger VLD's & use .580 for corrected BC, plus add a small velocity gain with the lighter bullet. Win/win to the Berger...... Hornady says 0.585 G1 for the 109 ELD. Depends on where you look, I got it from here: https://www.hornady.com/ammunition/rifle/6mm-gt-109-gr-eld-match#!/#specs Midway shows .585. I got my data from Hornady, as well, haha. https://www.hornady.com/bullets/rifle/6mm-.243-109-gr-eld-match-500#!/
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88’s are .545,Beer Cans .585. and I shoot .620 in all my barrels with 112’s. Boogers are cute. Hint.
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Both 18" Fieldcrafts, 22 and 6 Creedmoor and maybe my 6X47. and what cartridge is being used also ?
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I'd go 6mm over 22. To push the 88 with a decent speed you're going to have a pretty short barrel life cartridge.
The 6mm 109eld and 112 match burner are great options,and the 112 can be stabilized by a 1:8 243 Tikka barrel just fine
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