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Met Buzz Aldrin once. Didn't seem like a poser.
Also not surprised that Ringman is a Moon landing denier.
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I read these recurring threads with interest. It's amazing how deeply many folks entire paradigm is with respect to living with an atmosphere. Seemingly conflicting things on the moon are "obvious" signs of fakery. Obvious until you realize there is no atmosphere on the moon. So (for example): - No wind. Nothing to carry dust. The laser reflectors will stay clean essentially forever. - The "rocket thrusters" aren't going to blow dust all over the place because it is AIR that carries the energy. - Even though the "sky" is pitch black in the photos taken on the moon, there are no stars visible because it is brilliant, bright daylight - far brighter than we ever see on Earth. The sky is black because there is no air - not because it's nighttime.
And so forth.
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The fact that Rocky says its true, I’m good. I am positive that everything he says is in good faith. But I see a lot of room for doubt. It would not be known by but a select few what is the real story if it is false. Just doesn’t seem likely with the limited technology of the time
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It would have been a lot more difficult to fake it, and keep it secret for 55 years than to have simply done it.
Most people don't really want the truth.
They just want constant reassurance that what they believe is the truth.
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Amazing that the onboard computers were about as sophisticated as a modern pocket calculator.
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[quote=Kenneth]
It would not be known by but a select few what is the real story if it is false. Lets assume that the media actually reported the truth that Apollo 11 launched from Cape Kennedy, Thousands involved in the design, build , takeoff and recovery, not to mention spectators……… Select few?
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[quote=Kenneth]
It would not be known by but a select few what is the real story if it is false. Lets assume that the media actually reported the truth that Apollo 11 launched from Cape Kennedy, Thousands involved in the design, build , takeoff and recovery, not to mention spectators……… Select few? Did the spectators watch it all the way to the moon? Did the design and build team ride along to the moon?
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Amazing that the onboard computers were about as sophisticated as a modern pocket calculator. Whats the difference between a calculator and a slide rule? Slide ruler was the parent, calculator the offspring.
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It would have been a lot more difficult to fake it, and keep it secret for 55 years than to have simply done it. I don’t know about that. There is a lot we don’t know about FDR goading the Japs into attacking, the JFK assassination, MLK murder, etcetera. We don’t have any idea if there is any gold in Fort Knox. We aren’t allowed to know what the Federal Reserve is up to. The USA has been partnering with the Chinese in juicing up heretofore harmless viruses and we still don’t know the full story. A coup ousted Donald Trump in 2020 and that is basically a taboo subject with all sorts of evidence buried.
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The only scenario or any hoax I might be persuaded to believe is, we faked the first one to buy us more time because we thought the USSR was closer to it than they were. We no doubt went there. We can see the debris.
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[quote=Kenneth]
It would not be known by but a select few what is the real story if it is false. Lets assume that the media actually reported the truth that Apollo 11 launched from Cape Kennedy, Thousands involved in the design, build , takeoff and recovery, not to mention spectators……… Select few? Did the spectators watch it all the way to the moon? Did the design and build team ride along to the moon? Dang, forget about the film crew in the basement creating the false films.
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Another political decision just like the current Boeing Starliner/stranded astronaut fiasco. Politicians, not engineers. Boeing Starliner's thrusters failed because of politics?
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I've always believed we landed on the moon in 1969 but after listening to the them talk about the landing and communication obstacles today, I'm honestly having my doubts. We have WAY more information at hand and our computers and equipment are so much more advanced that it makes me struggle to believe the original wasn't just BS propaganda to mess with the Russians. What say you?? The progress of Apollo missions to the moon were monitored by radio telescopes all around the world, including Australia's Parks telescope when the US was off-line. They left experiments such as the laser reflector, which has been used to measure distance ever since....
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Another political decision just like the current Boeing Starliner/stranded astronaut fiasco. Politicians, not engineers. Boeing Starliner's thrusters failed because of politics? Corporate politics.
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It would not be known by but a select few what is the real story if it is false. How many? If you believe the rockets and splashdown were manned, then we had the technology to keep people in orbit long enough to land on the moon and return. If we can do that much, the moon is not much more. If you don't believe the launches and splashdowns were manned, then that's even more people to keep a secret. I don't put it past the government to deceive us like that; I just don't think they could have kept it a secret.
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The only scenario or any hoax I might be persuaded to believe is, we faked the first one to buy us more time because we thought the USSR was closer to it than they were. We no doubt went there. We can see the debris. Can we see the debris?
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With thousands involved if not more, there is ZERO way we didn't land on the moon. Could not keep it a secret. This is one of the weakest arguments that I see all the time. Sure, many thousands of people were involved in the moon program in some way. But they just saw what was presented to them, almost none of them saw the big picture. Besides, there are many thousands of government employees, agents, and assets that keep HUGE secrets from the American people EVERY DAY. it's not like it's impossible.
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It would not be known by but a select few what is the real story if it is false. How many? If you believe the rockets and splashdown were manned, then we had the technology to keep people in orbit long enough to land on the moon and return. If we can do that much, the moon is not much more. If you don't believe the launches and splashdowns were manned, then that's even more people to keep a secret. I don't put it past the government to deceive us like that; I just don't think they could have kept it a secret. How high above earth were the orbits? How high is the Space Station? I have heard that the moon is 250,000 miles away from Earth. Getting there and getting back would have been quite a feat in the 60s and 70s.
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All we had to do what aim the spacecraft at the moon. The real computers upon the landing was the human brain with a human flipping the switches.
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