Autopen was and ought to be used ONLY for correspondence such as letters to constituents. Signatures to codify law should be done manually.
I hope the courts find that to be the case.
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It's not just solely the use of auto-pen.
It's that and the fact pedo joe was not of sound mind that will get this some traction.
As I understand it, for "official" type documents, the document must be read to POTUS and POTUS must acknowledge receipt of and understanding of said documents BEFORE signing and "autopen" isn't acceptable for official type documents.
Nothing in the constitution on how or if a pardon need to be signed. If he claims that he authorized use of the autopen for pardons, then they're valid.
Only way they can be possibly voided is if he wasn't aware of the pardons/not authorized or was clearly diminished enough to be unaware.
Don't like it, but there it is.
You do recall the doctor who gave Joe the physical and said he was too far mentally gone to be deposed?
A presidential autopen is for responding to 3rd graders who write the White House for a class project, not pardons, EOs, etc. Anyone who can’t understand that is ratarded.
Biden was literally in another state (physically) when some of those pardons were "signed". As I understand it, he has to be physically "there", even if it's signed by autopen. So, it might just be that some of those pardons are NOT kosher, even if the autopen signature is legal. Which pardons ARE legal, might be the real question.
That's something the SCOTUS will have to work out. WAY beyond my pay grade.
You can roll a turd in peanuts, dip it in chocolate, and it still ain't no damn Baby Ruth.
A presidential autopen is for responding to 3rd graders who write the White House for a class project, not pardons, EOs, etc. Anyone who can’t understand that is ratarded.
A presidential autopen is for responding to 3rd graders who write the White House for a class project, not pardons, EOs, etc. Anyone who can’t understand that is ratarded.
I do understand that thought process, but I'm beginning to think nothing with President Trump is a distraction.
Distraction for the media, the regular Joe that consumes memes as news, but, the some people that are pardoned right now are likely sending their lawyer another check.
This will be a waste of time. All they'll have to do is prop Biden in front of a camera and a teleprompter so he can read "yeah, I approved all those signatures." case closed
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…” Yes I did get the COVTARD jab...
Nothing in the constitution on how or if a pardon need to be signed. If he claims that he authorized use of the autopen for pardons, then they're valid.
Only way they can be possibly voided is if he wasn't aware of the pardons/not authorized or was clearly diminished enough to be unaware.
Don't like it, but there it is.
You do recall the doctor who gave Joe the physical and said he was too far mentally gone to be deposed?
I do. That might be where Trump lawyers try to hang their hat.
This will be a waste of time. All they'll have to do is prop Biden in front of a camera and a teleprompter so he can read "yeah, I approved all those signatures." case closed
I've noticed how invisible he's been....
I'm not saying it will get overturned - it likely won't but the D's are at HISTORICLY low levels of support - adding this to it, doesn't hurt.
The auto pen isn't the disease they're after, it was the symptom that pointed them to it.
Joe was unaware of his "decision" making the decision invalid. Which goes to the further question of "if you were too infirm to face prosecution, even if announcing it later was good enough to satisfy the constitution - you weren't of capable mind/body to do so and that's invalid".
It's a process leading down various hallways of Joe's presidency and natural conclusions. "If A = B and B = C and C= infirm then A is also infirm" type of stuff.
Wouldn't someone need to be a legitimate suspect of a crime, and then be actually charged with a crime, before any "pardon" would enter the equation ? So far, I have not heard of any charges being filed on ANYONE, by this "new Sheriff in town" administration. So far it is "hey look at that", while the show goes on.
Nothing in the constitution on how or if a pardon need to be signed. If he claims that he authorized use of the autopen for pardons, then they're valid.
Only way they can be possibly voided is if he wasn't aware of the pardons/not authorized or was clearly diminished enough to be unaware.
Don't like it, but there it is.
You do recall the doctor who gave Joe the physical and said he was too far mentally gone to be deposed?
That was Special Council Robert Hur, as far as I know Hur’s official documents have not been released and are still classified
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
This will be a waste of time. All they'll have to do is prop Biden in front of a camera and a teleprompter so he can read "yeah, I approved all those signatures." case closed
This is not just another "bombshell" ? We have been exposed to one bombshell after another, for DECADES. Each being swept under the rug, as the masses are pointed at the next distraction.
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