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I don't know squat about them. Have a friend that has one he may sell me. It appears to have been made in 1953 and was unissued ? It looks like new. Anybody know an approximate value ?

Prices are variable from ~$1000 for a functional beater to $1500 for a decent rifle. But it can go way up from there depending on things like if the barrel is original, does it have GI wood with a cartouche, original finish, and are the major internal components "correct". Most shooters would like to know the condition of the bore an throat and muzzle erosion. For collectors it can get complicated.

Almost all Garands have been rebuilt at least once so don't expect everything to be correct since that does not matter in the $1500 range. Post some pictures. The marking on the barrel, op-rod, and what kind of cartouch (if there is one) would be helpful too.

What is he asking for it.

Jeeper,

If the Garand came from CMP and seller has paper work adds value to the rifle. If you buy it, don't shoot commercial 30-06 will damage Op Rod, supposed to shoot M2 Ball or PPU makes Garand ammo, velocity should be below 2700 (?).

Has the cartouche on stock and flaming bomb on barrel with 53 and other markings. He bought it years ago I believe from CMP. It is in a CMP case. It looks new like it was never issued. He has some of the military cartridges for it. I shot it and it shot very well at 100 yards. There's just a possibility of him selling it to me. He is up in age and is starting to thin the herd. I will try to get another look at it and takes some pics and notes. Thanks for the info.

The ammo we shot was 147 grain ball ammo I think. He said it was probably around 2750 fps. Thanks for info.

Oh, no price on it was discussed yet.

Garands are interesting. In order to know the true value, you'll need to field strip the rifle and look at every stamped number on it. This will tell you what you actually have.

No offense intended, but to someone unfamiliar with garands, one that has been reparked and new wood fitted VS an actually unissued rifle would probably look the same but the value is VERY different, we're talking thousands of dollars different. The CMP took a fair number of those guns and stuck new barrels and new stocks on them, complete with the stock cartouches.

Rack, field, correct, expert, and collector grade are how they are categorized if memory serves.

Pics would help. Feel free to reach out with any questions. I'm not in the market but I've had at least 20 different garands before Virginia shut down the parking lot trading with their new laws, I've only bought one since then.

Thanks

My semi learned observation is that it's no good. You should just send that thing to me and I will dispose of it. It's a weapon of war and should be nowhere on the free market. I will be doing you a great favor.

Just thinking about what is good for you. I have already collected 3 M1's and I am concealing them in my safe as we speak so the general public is not scared by their appearance.

Your friend.


kwg

Garands, like all vintage/collectible U.S. martial arms, are a minefield for the newbie. Prices are all over the map depending on the venue, and reflect largely on who's selling them and what they base their value on.

If you step into the world of serious collectors trading/selling among themselves expect to hear a lot of esoteric talk of parts correctness, originality of finish, and condition. The virtual sameness of these rifles begs that sort of nitpicking because that's about all that can be done to differentiate/categorize them to justify multiples in collections. For example, look at a long rack full of M1's (or '03's, or 1911's, or M1 Carbines) and the proud knowledgeable owner will point out arcane differences based on the parts in them, making each one unique/different from the rest - but at the end of the day what you're looking at is a bunch of guns that are the same in terms of utility.

In the world of the casual owner/shooter all that esoteric nitpicking is almost unnecessary - as long as the conglomeration of parts are within spec (not worn, bent, or broken), and the bore is good - and therein lies the rub. Cosmetic appearance can be atrocious and if the parts are good it'll function/shoot as it should. Conversely if cosmetics are splendid but its parts are wonky and the barrel is worn out you'll be the proud owner of a nice display piece.

All that is to say that no matter your intention is it's important to learn as much as you can and then make a decision based on what you'll do with the gun.

This ^^ What is your plan with the rifle ?? Or, are you looking for a collectable ?? One of mine came from the CMP pretty much pristine except for the stock. It's got a nicer stock on it now but, yea, I shot it. I just don't need a show piece.

kwg

“Unissued” would be pretty hard to prove. IIRC the “Unissued” Garands sold by CMP were few and far between, in the original factory wrap, only opened enough to verify the serial numbers and even ten years ago had prices that were way up there.

All of mine were bought from CMP and some of my Service Grades, Correct Grades and Collector Grades LOOK like new with practically no wear, even on corners and high spots, but they’re not new or “unissued”. None of the Garands are unfired because all of them were at least fired with proof loads.

I want to buy the rifle from my old buddy. just wondering what would be a reasonable price. I'm going to just give him some time and see what he comes up with. I don't know jack about them. He also has a nice 1903 that I told him I like but I really want the Garrand.

I called it unissued because there is no wear on it. Not a scratch on it or a dent in the stock.

It's hard to price without any details whatsoever aside from "it looks nice". Hell it could be a Blue Sky import for all we know, which is a very different value from standard garands.

Also.....Garand. One R, not two.

Unissued and no scratches or dents are again....two different things which command two different values.

There is a 99%+ chance that this is one of the rifles the CMP reparked and if the stock is spotless it is probably their new commercial stock set and not GI wood. Ask your friend if it has CMP papers and it will list the grade on the certificate.

The smart shopper who's looking for a good shooter vs. just a nice rifle is well advised to invest in muzzle wear and throat erosion gauges. They aren't particularly expensive and can save much anguish. Don't trust your eyeball or drop a loaded round into the muzzle - those methods can weed out the obvious villains but don't cut the mustard in terms of best accuracy potential. If ownership of but one Garand is the goal, then sell the gauges after they've served their purpose. Conversely if the rifle recently came from the DCM it should/might have the gauge readings on its hang tag. If MW or TE readings indicate "2" or above it's been rode hard and may not yield sterling accuracy.

If he doesn't have the paperwork but says it came from the CMP, you can always have them verify it.

Has the CMP gotten any more customer-friendly in the past few years? When I expressed some interest in making a purchase from their Anniston Alabama store about 10 years ago, they were downright rude. Haven't had any contact with them since!

Offer $1000. If he takes it you both should be happy.

I never had a bad experience with them.

Still waiting for him to offer it up. Yes I would be happy with $1000.

Just sold a Springfield Armory correct grade,1954 build, I got from CMP.It was a Greek return in like new condition. Bought it for 900.00 and sold it for 1200.00. It wasn't a safe queen, put around 800 rounds of Greek HXP through it.

I understand the CMP is experimenting with producing new M1 Garands. Supposedly there was some discussion on the CMP Facebook site. I don't have Facebook so I can't confirm. This may be an option for those of you who want one but aren't eligible for an M1 via the CMP or don't want to pay gun show prices.

kwg

I don't think a new reproduction Garand will be cheap.

I have to wonder what it will do to current M1 values and if there is even any demand. Springfield tried selling M1's about 20 years ago and they were only in the M1 business for a couple of years before getting out.

kwg

Doubt a repro M1 will have any effect on the price of original. And, I don't think there would be much interest/demand.

Unlikely it was not issued. These late guns didn't receive the use of earlier guns, so they reflect this in condition.

They are not. They are doing reworks on the Philippine guns right now. CMP is not going to do new manufacturing in the near future, it's never been a conversation from the leadership team.

Go to AR15.com and there is 5 pages already with one picture of a CMP receiver. The last I knew, the company that bought up the H&R rights, PSA, briefly talked about a Garand. I wonder if both PSA and the CMP are working on the project ?? I have 3 M1's and I have loaded up some ammo. I'm good for years to come but the guys and girls at AR15.com are all excited.

kwg

Judge for yourself.

upload pics in a link

Hell maybe I'm wrong, I only hang out with the CMP armorers twice a year. I guess I'm not as tied in as I thought.

Just when we think we are a know it all. LMAO. And I'm not even really in the CMP loop at all anymore and was reading bits and pieces of the totally newly built guns coming.

OTOH armorers and powers that be are two totally different things...

that was probably back when we bought M1s for 100 dollars each through the club... hard to compete on those levels. Not so hard with CNC and 1000 bucks and more for the old M1s now.

time will tell...

There are some nice ones on the CMP Auction.

Hey jeeper, any update? Are you now a proud owner of a Garand?