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Several interesting LH 70's on GunBroker. A blued 30-06 with buy it now of $1899.00

Several WSM's including a custom shop 7wsm, a 270 wsm featherweight and a 300 wsm.

A .338 Win mag blued

And a claimed custom shop 358 win with a stainless bolt in a blued receiver in a McMillan. Item 1101050539

Not affiliated in any way, just thought folks might find these interesting

The barreled action on the 358 does appear to be CS.

Link to the blued 06? Not seeing it.

Thx.

Here is a link:

LH 30-06

It has gone around a few times with no bids.

Anyone else find it a little curious that a "Custom Shop" rifle would have a blued CM barrel, blued CM receiver, and then a Stainless bolt body and cocking piece?

LH Win M70 .358 Win

My first thought was they found a short action stainless left hand .473 bolt and put it in a blued Wsm receiver. The only short action left hand .473 bolts were used in the Custom shop. All other LH short actions were WSM rifles.

Midwest Gun Works had several bolts for sale years ago after the New Haven shutdown. I actively looked for years but couldn't turn one up.

It's certainly an odd combination.

I snagged a long action LH SS bolt body and a LH short action SS bolt body off a guy who supposedly bought out the left overs/surplus from New Haven when they moved to the Carolinas. Original intention was to do just what you described above and create a LH SA M70 chambered .243 or 6.5CM. Interestingly, the LA LH bolt body has a knurled bolt knob. The SA LH bolt body has a smooth bolt knob like the one in the GB post. I would be curious to see the root barrel tenon to see if it has a single LH extractor cut (custom shop). Or both LH and RH extractor cuts (RH take off)...

The smooth bolt knob on new haven classics was a hallmark of the custom shop.

That’s a late production (7 digit era) ss bolt on that 358. My guess would be a gun that came out in the last year or two as they were trying to get everything out the door they could.

I looked at that .358 long and hard and was prepared to bid on it. I emailed the seller twice asking basic questions about the rifle and they did not answer either email. Sort of a red flag to me. On the fence about bidding on it now.

That’s a no go for me. May not be a scam, but some of these GB photos can be/are horrible and there’s nothing hard about making yourself accessible when you’re wanting to sell something.

Since the rifle has the appropriate winchester custom shop proof mark stamp on top of the barrel near the receiver. I would assume it is a CSG. Those rifles were produced in a couple of different variations as standard production. Also according to the clients request. The Mcmillan stock appears to be the Sako AV pattern that was inletted for other actions. Actually my favorite fitting stock. Since Winchester only produced one size action, the cartridge follower is either a hair short, has a block or open space to compensate for the longer action. It should be trued and slick. Outside color is imaterial. I ceracoated mine matt black from full SS. It could be coated or not.
It is at $1400 currently and it should double or it would be a steal. If I was in the market for one, I would buy it and have it chambered to .35 Whelen an easy fix. Have the bottom metal adjusted if needed and you will have an awesome CRF rifle. I have owned a few and still have one. They are in a different league compared to the basic off the shelf so and so quality issue at one time. The action quality I would compare to a Dakota 76. The G low numbered serial number is a validation.
It appears to be a gunshop selling it. Google their name and check with Gunbroker to see if they have a current license on record. Sometimes when the seller is sloppy in their dealing, it could be an advantage to the buyer. They don’t know what they have. Take advantage of it. Best of luck to all.

Are you saying Winchester used the same size action on the 375 H&H, belted mags, shorts mags, and short action rounds such as this 358?

Yes they never produced a short action for the .308 win etc.. whether it was a .22-250 rem , .375H&H, .458 win. All are the same action. The bolt head diameter was different from standard to magnum actions. All prior to WSM’s coming out.

One note is the ejection port was opened up a bit for the long magnums.

This is essentially true for the pre-64s and the post 64s up until 1983/1984. A true short action became available in ‘84 for the short action PF chamberings. This continued through the reintroduction of the CRF with the classic line as well; and even the left-hand classic was available in both long and short - short being the WSM. As custom shop gun, it would be no trick to have a standard bolt face.

I purchased from them just a few weeks ago. Beautiful custom shop left hand 270 win. Shipping was quick but I wouldn't of shipped a $150 mossberg shotgun the way they shipped this rifle.
Cheap cardboard box with very little protection. I told them whoever in the shipping dept that packaged it is either stupid or lazy.
Needless the say the awesome wood stock was snapped at the wrist when taken out of the box.
Whoever I spoke with shot me their cell number for pics while at the FFL and I had a full refund within the hour but how very sad was I....

As AK pointed out, true for the Pre-64's and push feeds. Not true for the Classics. Long action and Short action Left Hand bolts for Classics below...

Hmmm. The true origin of the gun in question is an interesting question. At first look, it appeared to me to be a CS parts bin build but AKW's comment on the 7 digit serial number bolt has me doubting my initial take. Because...

One thing I can say for certain: The Winchester CS did produce true short action standard bolt face Model 70's . I bought 2 at the Reno SCI convention the year it was rumored the CS was shutting down. I don't recall the year. I paid about $2500 for each of the guns. One a 7-08, the other a .308. Both four digit G series serial numbers. I still have both guns. Gene Simillion transformed the 7-08 into a light barreled 22-250 coyote gun. The .308 never fed quite right (there's a surprise) so it was never hunted. I doubt I'll ever part with either of these rifles.

Probably ~2005?

Both LH? Blued or SS?

Yes, both LH. 'Can't believe I left that important detail out. Doh! Both are blue/walnut. The .308 has an octagonal Krieger barrel.