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Concerned that I don't plug it right. I do have Cerrosafe.

Would it be OK to Slug the barrel, get the right caliber bullet, expand a 30-06 brass in 8x60 die, load a bullet and shoot?

Maybe get with my friend who is a gunsmith and go from there. I am looking for an 8x60 die set. My gun is stamped "8x60 Magnum" I guess I would use standard 8x60 dies.

Just take it to a competent gunsmith.

YES

This is looking like the best course of action.

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Cartridge Board - 8x60S
column By: Gil Sengel | August, 18
Handloader Magazine - August/September 2018

"The original load of the 8x60 is given as a 196-grain bullet at 2,443 fps yielding some 2,600 foot-pounds (ft-lbs) of muzzle energy. Somewhat enigmatic are DWM 8x60S Magnum loads showing a 187-grain softpoint at 2,788 fps and an 8x60S Magnum Bombe giving the same bullet 2,820 fps – impressive figures for the 1920s."
https://www.handloadermagazine.com/cartridge-board-8




I thought I'd add this to the thread for a visual reference. (photo by me)


Cheers! Bob F.

It appears that earlier data shows a resized 30.06 should work for an 8x60S. But it looks the 30.06 case would not fit the action?

You'd have to trim (shorten) the case neck of the .30-06 case, after reforming / resizing it to 8x60S, to match the specified case length of the 8x60S.

Also, note that I edited (added to) my previous post after you replied.


From the article link I posted in my previous post:




Cheers! Bob F.

My question is about the shoulder on the 30.06 is longer than the 8x60S. Will a sizing die scrunch the shoulder shorter so it will fit in the chamber of the gun.

I admit I am very new. I had thought that the sizing die would open the throat where a 8mm bullet would fit. I can see that could work. I can understand that trimming the case cold be simple and quick.

I am waiting to get my gun which is lost in the mail so I can slug the barrel and determine the caliber. Apparently there can be either .318 or .323 and get the caliber for the die. There were different calibers for my mauser?

When I get the die set which seems to be two dies, do I need an additional die for turning the 30.06 into an 8x60s?

We can see that you are new to this. Go make a new best friend that does a lot of frigging around loading for odd-bod cartridges, or hire a competent gunsmith.
Not one that works exclusively with ARs.

A big Cartridge for Platypus and Wallabies

hehehe

Hot Damn! It came today. Been lost in the mail until today. Been missing since 11/13/24. 13 days. But well worth the wait. It was made by Ludwig Schiwy in 1938. Great gunsmith. Mannlicher stock with an adjustable cheekpiece. Low for iron sights and up for scope. 6x Kahles scope on German claw mounts. Set triggers. Almost new. Great wood and engraving. Meeting with a gunsmith to slug the bore on this. The 8x60 Magnum, stamped on the barrel cartridges come in one or two dies. One for .318 and a different for .323. Depends on the bore, of course.

I bid more than I planned, but worth the results

Scroll down to "Item Description"
https://bid.poulinauctions.com/FINE-FULL-STOCK-MAUSER-RIFLE-BY-L-SCHIWY-WITH_i54232863

It’s gorgeous!

Has some really cool features.
Fast removeable German claw mounts. Cheek-piece adjustable for "low" with iron sights and "high" for scope mounting. Spring loaded. Never seen anything like this! The grain matches up very well, but I expect it must be another piece of wood.

Very cool. Thanks for sharing the photos.

I shot an 8mm-06 for over 25 years, and in my Alaska days I never had a chronograph or enough variety of powders for experimenting, but I think those velocity numbers may be a little optimistic. But admittedly, I know less than nothing about the Euro versions. Anyway, when I moved outside and got a chronograph, I was surprised to discover that my handload of 4895 and RWS H Mantel 196 (?) gr, Super X brass, 23 5/8 bbl, was a bit hot and yet I was only getting 2,600 fps. Maybe that was why I never experienced a bullet failure, lol. My rifle turned into a 'loaner' for a village (lucky rifles are better than regular rifles), and killed far more moose and 'bou than one man ever would.
Anyway, I would approach those old numbers very carefully.

The 8x60 with a 187gr at 2800+ sounds about right as my 8x57 with a 180gr TSX and H4895 gets 2800fps. So you'd have a couple more grains more capacity for the 60mm shell to work with.

As for my 8mm-06 I shoot a 200gr nosler accubond at 2790ish with Re17 powder.

I stand corrected, old man, old info.

It's a pleasure to see a real rifle and thing of beauty.

I loath the new Cerakote/synthetic eyesores. I'd rather cuddle up to a bloated corpse than put plastic to my cheek.

The Suhler claw mounts and pop-up cheekpiece are typical German quality. Enjoy you new masterpiece.

A few more pictures. It is my favorite rifle.