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I have a 1980's series large pivot pin Colt Sporter H-BAR. I need to get an upper with a flat top so that I can use a telescopic sight. Any recomendations on a company that would make a nice accurate flat top large pivot pin upper with a M4 type profile and Chrome lined barrel and chamber? If I cannot find an upper I am just going to sell the thing and buy a gun I can put a telescope on!

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You can buy an adapter pin that will allow the Colt large pin lower to accept any small pin upper receiver. FWIW, if you sell the Colt (which I wouldn't) and it's a verified pre-ban rifle, it is worth more money in many states that have kept the AWB laws in place. NY comes to mind. There are others.


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I guess that would work. It would probably be cheaper to buy an upper anyway than an entire rifle.


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how well do those adapter pins work? Do they affect accuracy in any way?


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The pin simply replaces the large Colt takedown pin with a new pin that will allow the lower to accept a small pin upper. Here's a bit more info from a couple of websites.

http://www.pkfirearms.com/store/get_items.aspx?type=0&term=12

The replacement pin is listed under "Offset Screw & Nut - Colt Style" and it's $5.

Next from mapartsinc. website:
http://www.mapartsinc.com/anything.asp

"Skip this next paragraph if you don't have a Colt lower receiver...

Sometimes, when Colt has a bad day, they manufacture what is politely called a "large pin lower". Most would call it a reject. They come from a hole drilling placement error, so they just center it up in the right place and drill it out bigger. Instead of a proper .250" diameter hole (as our uppers have), you get a front pivot pin hole in the lower that is .312" diameter. Simple solution? Get the $5 Colt Offset Pin. It will adapt any standard USGI dimensioned upper to any Colt "large pivot pin" lower."


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That is the stupidest statement I've ever heard coming from a business. And of course they also tell you they use only the best quality parts... M&A who needs them?

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I will not buy anything from maparts either. The info was just for the pin related info, nothing more. BTW, I'd keep my large pin pre-ban Colt before I'd take their advice on an AR.


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I may just sell the thing and buy a complete noveske.


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All you need is an offset screw. Midway usa has them under:

DPMS Offset Screw and Nut AR-15 Matte
Adapts upper receivers with .250" takedown pin holes to fit old Colt lower receivers with 5/16 (.312)" front pivot hole diameter.

http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=316328

But you can also go to DPMS and get it for $3 plus shipping. I just got mine yesterday and it cost me a total of $4.3 with shipping.

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I like the looks of the Noveske rifle, but they also said they would build me an upper on a danials large hole upper receiver, they said this was the way to go.


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