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Jeff,

I haven't tried the Hornady .358 componnent brass, but have tried it in several other cartridges, including (of the top of my head), .17 Hornet, .22 Hornet, 6mm Creedmoor, .243 Winchester, .250 Savage, 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5 PRC, 6.5 GAP 4S, 7mm-08, .275 Rigby and .300 Weatherby Magnum. In every instance, it's been very good stuff. (May add others as my memory continues to churn.)

Thanks. My rifle is exceptionally easy on brass so I've been running the same WW .358 brass forever. My only experience with Hornady brass is 6.5 GAP 4S.

This is deer lungs meets 225 NPT at about 30 yards.

What remained of the 225 NPT I caught in a deer, along with its massive rack.

This is an exit wound from a Hornady 200 SP, small buck, 20 yards.

Starline also has .358 brass available

IMO, after seeing my 350 work on WT, a 225 Sierra is a great bullet on deer, but one did get stopped on a 10 point my buddy took. Great expansion at around 200 yds. Deer was basically DRT. A 225 NPT would probably have exited, not that it would have mattered though it would be My choice on Elk. When a mishap happened with ammo at the airport he freaked out going to New Mexico but found some factory 200 RP and slayed a HUGE bull. I believe that RP May be the Hornady SP. IMHO it’s lacking in SD and BC. To me a 225 is where you want to be in 358. 140-158 handgun bullets are heck on milk jugs to 200-300 yds, and would ruin a coyote.

In 338F, hard to go wrong with a 185 Barnes, good 200 if COL allows potential powder room to get speeds up, and the 215/225 PT.

Both best up to 300 yds but one can stretch if you get placement with expansion. Penetration should not be an issue, especially as expansion drops over distance, decreasing frontal area which impedes penetration.

Many hunting situations can be well handled with a properly loaded 338 or 358 as many here have proven. LR hunting hype is what keeps selling hi-velocity to many who rarely need it. LOTS of game is taken and presented at short to modest ranges.

Can anyone tell me the recipe that was discussed in the 2008 article using TAC, or at least one they use? Looking at Ramshot's page they don't list TAC with the 358. I just picked up my first 358 and want to start loading for it for this fall. Ideally looking at 225 or 250gr pills.
Thanks.

For those with desire to read more on the 338Fed, there is another great blog on this site that covers that cartridge from all sides.

In Gun Gack II MD was running a 225NAB with 48gn Ramshot TAC with a CCI 200 for 2524 fps and a 250 Hornady RN with 45.5 or 46gn. I'm sure he started lower and worked up.

Good luck and shoot straight y'all.

From the article:

200 gr tsx with 52gr TAC 2749 fps

225 gr SGK with 49gr TAC 2552 fps

250 NPT and horn RN 48gr TAC 2404 fps

Tagging for the info!

Me too.

Thanks, Dinny

Tag, I have a Hawkeye in .358 I'll be loading for very soon.

I used the Barnes 180gr TTSX and 52gr TAC on a 200lb NC bear. Shot was 265yds and the bear dropped in it's tracks.

Thanks, Dinny

Tag

I am very pleased with my Marlin 336 ER and my 94 AE both in 356 Win.

I contacted Ram shot over these cartridges, they reccomend X terminator over TAC?

I don't remember why

. I also like CCI 250 for primers.

What caliber would the win .308 case be if it was a straight wall? Has it ever been tried?